Oklahoma St. Home & Home

[UNT90]

They will gladly do it if it means staying in a P5 league. Tech knows their place--and its not a bad place at all. You get big teams to come to your place every year, you recruit the 3* that aren't getting recrutited heavily by Texas, A&M, OU, etc..which means you can still beat a lot of teams because of Texas HS talent, and of course, you get to keep that ca$h, playa...Tech is UTs lapdog. They are gonna do almost anything they can do make sure that UT doesn't leave them alone to die on the West Texas Prairie. Tech does have some Austin pull in the legislature, too, so that will help UT with the state and they will need someone to vote hand-in-hand with them for conference stuff, which Tech almost always does.

One thing TCU showed us in their halcyon MWC days was that you could win the Rose Bowl and finish #2 in a final poll and it still wouldn't pay you anything close to what a P5 conference cellar-dwellar would get for doing nothing more than rolling over for the bhig dogs in your conference. Its the single biggest thing TCU ever accomplished in the last 50 years of their existence. It wasn't winning going to a BCS bowl game or even winning the Rose Bowl over Wisconsin--it was using it all to miraculously get into the Big XII when the conference had some upheaval and lost Texas A&M. TCU is the biggest winner in all of the realignment stuff, not even close. A small private school who sits in the middle of a saturated tv market somehow got invited to the Big Boys table because the non-Texas schools wanted another Texas stop to replace A&M and wanted it in DFW, not in Houston. UH would have been so much better than TCU (hell, they would've been way better than Baylor back in 1994, but they didn't have the legislative pull Baylor had), but TCU got that spot. And almost every single Frog fan you meet will tell you that they would rather lose in the Big XII than go back to the MWC--that tells you all you need to know.

The point is, at some point, they are going to be looked t as dead weight and thrown overboard so the money hoarders can hoard even more.

[untjim1995]

The point is, at some point, they are going to be looked t as dead weight and thrown overboard so the money hoarders can hoard even more.

Its true, they could, but Tech, in particular, has made their way in this world as the perfect little brother to UT. Think OSU to OU...they'll be together because the state's legislature is gonna demand it. Texas will never be allowed to go off on their own to another conference without at least one of the current Texas Big XII teams. A&M leaving for the SEC was absolute brilliance, but, in the end, Tech will probably benefit the most from that move, since it gives them permanent status as UT's little brother going forward. For Texas, having Tech on their side will help them immensely when the Pac-12 eventually takes the Texoma Four. Baylor and TCU are gonna fit that overboard crowd you mentioned above, no matter how much they sue. Texas and Tech are gonna be able to say that the Pac-12 just won't take a religious-affiliated school, so they don't have any choice but to leave them behind. And Tech, no matter how many 5-7 and 6-6 seasons that they will endure in the current Big XII, will have basically won the lottery, since they get to stay in a P5 conference for decades to come.

I still think it wil look like this: Pac-12 + Texoma 4, B1G will add KU, and the ACC will add WVU (and UConn and Cincy). KSU could get in somewhere, too, but I don't know where--maybe the SEC if Mizzou ends up finally getting their dream Big Ten slot. Iowa State, Baylor, and TCU are gonna be left out to find their way in the G5, probably the three of them will go to the MWC with UH. Rice, UTSA, and MUTS probably replace them in the AAC. And Texas State, ULL, and Arkansas State move up to CUSA.

[NTXCoog]

so you don't believe in the Mean Green?

It would certainly be a heavy OSU crowd but it would showcase Apogee to a better TV audience. They also played at Robertson a few yrs back in a home and home with the Coogs.

Iowa State is more realistic...but OSU would be a better bang.

Wasn't a home and home with UH. It was a 2 for 1 with 2006 at Robertson and 2008 and 2009 in Stillwater. OU is coming to Houston in 2016, but it is a Texas Kickoff game at NRG Stadium, similar to a neutral site games at Jerryworld.

[tmjerm]

Wasn't a home and home with UH. It was a 2 for 1 with 2006 at Robertson and 2008 and 2009 in Stillwater. OU is coming to Houston in 2016, but it is a Texas Kickoff game at NRG Stadium, similar to a neutral site games at Jerryworld.

ah you're right. I'd take a 2 for 1 though anyway. My dad played for Yeoman - grew up a big Coog fan. Been to the new stadium?

[Coffee and TV]

Texas and Tech are gonna be able to say that the Pac-12 just won't take a religious-affiliated school, so they don't have any choice but to leave them behind.

Baylor maybe a different story, but TCU and USC are essentially alike: founded by religious institutions but now unaffiliated.

[untjim1995]

Baylor maybe a different story, but TCU and USC are essentially alike: founded by religious institutions but now unaffiliated.

True--but TCU is really small, compared to USC. And the PAC folks have made it abundantly clear that both BYU and Baylor are not compatible with their political leanings.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Except that TCU still has a divinity school preparing preachers for Disciples of Christ churches, with a smattering of Methodist ministers as well. So....