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UCF's 2015 non-conference schedule is coming more into focus after the recently-announced agreement with Stanford. The Knights will travel out west next year and welcome the Cardinal to Orlando in 2019.

That leaves one vacancy, a game that must be played at Bright House Networks Stadium. Previously scheduled for 2015 were the return game at South Carolina and a home date with FIU.

Conference USA:

Middle Tennessee: The Blue Raiders have one vacancy, but with road dates already scheduled at Ball State and Illinois they're likely looking for another home game.

Louisiana Tech: Same situation as Middle Tennessee. They have one spot, but with two road games (at Mississippi State and Kansas State) they're probably looking for a team that will come to Ruston.

North Texas: The Mean Green have three road games on their non-conference schedule (SMU, Iowa, Tennessee) so it's a certainty they're in the market for a home game.

Rice: Same situation as Middle Tennessee and Louisiana Tech. One vacancy, but they've already got two road games scheduled (at Texas and Baylor).

Southern Miss: Same deal. One spot open, but already have two road games (at Texas State and Nebraska).

Read more: https://ucf.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1684780&PT=4&PR=2

UNT90 Newbie

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But we couldn't return that game with Iowa St. until 2018 without playing ANOTHER 5 game home season in either 2016 or 2017.

The only real option we have is to buy another FCS.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/conf-usa/north-texas-mean-green.php

There is one tiny, minute sliver of hope that may come to pass after this season. Maybe, just maybe, the P5 teams will see the benefit to their RPI of playing a G5 on the road over playing a FCS at home. It all depends on what the committee does in selecting the playoff participants this year. Stay tuned.

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I've got mixed feelings on this whole FCS thing now. I like the easy win that counts toward bowl eligibility for sure, but man, if we had been wearing watches, we would've been staring at them constantly come about five minutes into the third quarter. I feel like I just paid the full price of admission to watch the spring game.

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UNT90 Newbie

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I feel like I just paid the full price of admission to watch the spring game.

You mean kinda like...

wait for it...

A scrimmage?

I don't mind an FCS game if you have a legitimate marque OOC home game the same season (we didn't and haven't). And you will see another FCS as the ONLY out of conference home game next year.

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oldguystudent Newbie

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I guess I'd rather have the Idahos and New Mexico States of the world than the Texas Southerns and the Nicholls States. It also helps perception a bit when you beat up on Idaho 41-7 and people at least recognize the name and know that they once belonged to some semblance of an FBS conference even if they do (unbeknownst to most) play in an inflatable gymnasium. Hell, let's bring in some SBC teams and show ole' opposite-of-Midas Touch Karl Benson what's what.

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UNT90 Newbie

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I guess I'd rather have the Idahos and New Mexico States of the world than the Texas Southerns and the Nicholls States. It also helps perception a bit when you beat up on Idaho 41-7 and people at least recognize the name and know that they once belonged to some semblance of an FBS conference even if they do (unbeknownst to most) play in an inflatable gymnasium. Hell, let's bring in some SBC teams and show ole' opposite-of-Midas Touch Karl Benson what's what.

Troy would be good to bring in about now.

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MeanGreenTexan Grand Master

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I guess I'd rather have the Idahos and New Mexico States of the world than the Texas Southerns and the Nicholls States. It also helps perception a bit when you beat up on Idaho 41-7 and people at least recognize the name and know that they once belonged to some semblance of an FBS conference even if they do (unbeknownst to most) play in an inflatable gymnasium. Hell, let's bring in some SBC teams and show ole' opposite-of-Midas Touch Karl Benson what's what.

Digging into the Southland conference isn't too bad. If we could upgrade a little from the likes of Nicholls & TSU, to schools with a little more name recognition, like SFA or SHSU, I think it would help. But yeah, bringing in a SBC team (like TXSt or NMSU) would probably be better... but they'd probably cost more.

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UNT90 Newbie

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And why would a Sun Belt team play a money game at UNT when they could get almost 3 times as much money to play at a P5?

Idaho was an abberition. They had just been left out in the cold as an independent after the WAC folded up shop. They were scrambling to add games, both away and home, because they had no conference schedule to play.

And it still cost us 400k.

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And why would a Sun Belt team play a money game at UNT when they could get almost 3 times as much money to play at a P5?

Idaho was an abberition. They had just been left out in the cold as an independent after the WAC folded up shop. They were scrambling to add games, both away and home, because they had no conference schedule to play.

And it still cost us 400k.

Now you're operating under the assumption that every OOC game must be either a top 5 FBS money game or a bottom of the barrel, barely better than high school FCS game. I'd argue with Houston, Indiana, Idaho, Ball State that this just isn't so. Not every SBC team demands a million bucks per OOC road game, and we should be able to get them in here without paying that much.

BillySee58 Grand Master

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How about we bring in a competitive FCS opponent? Texas Southern and Nicholls State are cupcakes, even by FCS standards. How about bringing in North Dakota State?

On a serious note, maybe Sam Houston or SFA? I would prefer a lower level FBS school like a bottom tier sunbelt or bottom tier MAC school, but I'm not sure that would happen and most already have their 2015 schedules filled.

Whatever happens with our last game in 2015, we can't schedule another home and home. The Army series isn't bad, but it's at least two games too long. We can't set up an more home and homes until after 2021. As long as we play at least paycheck game a year, we can't have 3 home and homes. That would create 5-game home schedules.

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How about we bring in a competitive FCS opponent? Texas Southern and Nicholls State are cupcakes, even by FCS standards. How about bringing in North Dakota State?

On a serious note, maybe Sam Houston or SFA? I would prefer a lower level FBS school like a bottom tier sunbelt or bottom tier MAC school, but I'm not sure that would happen and most already have their 2015 schedules filled.

Whatever happens with our last game in 2015, we can't schedule another home and home. The Army series isn't bad, but it's at least two games too long. We can't set up an more home and homes until after 2021. As long as we play at least paycheck game a year, we can't have 3 home and homes. That would create 5-game home schedules.

Well, you could have 3 home and home series if your AD conisders a road game in Dallas as an alternate home game every other year. This is all about paying the bills for the entire athletic department. We are poor, we need lots of money from the bodybag games, and playing a 5 game home schedule every other year will help the AD stay in the black (or near it anyway). Scheduling is all about known costs--as is almost everything we do when it comes to athletics. Its always about known costs--not opportunity costs that are lost, but what we know for certain something will cost. You could call it a VALUE proposition, if you want...

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Now you're operating under the assumption that every OOC game must be either a top 5 FBS money game or a bottom of the barrel, barely better than high school FCS game. I'd argue with Houston, Indiana, Idaho, Ball State that this just isn't so. Not every SBC team demands a million bucks per OOC road game, and we should be able to get them in here without paying that much.

No, I'm talking strictly about paying a team to come here and play a home game, and teams that may be an alternative to an FCS team.

I was just pointing out that Idaho had a very specific set of circumstances that allowed it to happen.

This has nothing to do with a 1 and 1 series, which we should be able to get from a Sun Belt team any time we want it.

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If my memory is correct, you cannot count FCS wins in back to back years towards bowl eligiblity.

So Since we already played Nicholls this season, playing a FCS next year would do us no good

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here

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if we are going FCS, let's challenge ourselves and at least put a North Dakota St. on there

No. If we are playing an FCS we reeeeaaally don't need it it to be ND State. Bigger programs than ours have tried that the last few years, they all failed. There is nothing to be won by doing that no recognition in winning the game, and the chance of losing that game is just too big. Maybe someone a peg above Nichols, but decidedly worse than ND state would improve the experience, if it has to be FCS. Something like eastern Kentucky, Bethune Cookman, SF Austin or northwestern state. Although the latter seems not to be a gimme either.

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Coffee and TV Grand Master

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How about we bring in a competitive FCS opponent? Texas Southern and Nicholls State are cupcakes, even by FCS standards. How about bringing in North Dakota State?

No. Don't schedule an FCS team that could possibly beat you. You only look foolish when you do. I think Michigan still hasn't recovered from that App State game, even if they got their revenge this year.

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