Dajon In Canales Offense

aztecskin · September 15, 2014

Imagine Dajon running these plays that we already have installed.

http://meangreennation.com/ball-state-film-room/

aztecskin · September 15, 2014

I mean some of the yardage Derek got was because the defense did not really respect his running ability. The whole point of having multiple options/threats on a play is to keep the defense honest and let you do what you think you can do against their base defense.

In our case, that will be running against a team's front seven. Apparently we think that we can run all day against any team's standard lineup.

Riley zone read on steroids?

Harry · September 15, 2014

I expect them to be cautious about him running the ball... in fact -- I expect them to give him some of the stuff they gave Greer but hope that he can do more with it.

The issue with Dajon is not his talent -- he is immensely talented. It's more along the lines of his durability.

He has never taken a big hit and he has had some injury issues -- the most recent being last spring which led to him missing some key reps and the spring game itself...

Personally, I think injuries are a part of the game and you can't play around them. I do wish Dajon had another 15 pounds of muscle but I don't know that he will ever be the 240 pound guy back there with his body type. He will get dinged up - -heck it even happened to Derek Thompson last year. They really want to redshirt Means and I can't say that I blame them.

I look for them to use Dajon's rushing ability enough to keep the defenses honest but will not overly expose him.

If you think back to that 19 yard option run he had against SMU -- they are coaching him right now NOT to put his shoulder down and slide in that situation.

I also hope that Chico tones down the complexity of the offense. I am all about preparation but I sometimes wonder if Greer's issues were that his harddrive was overloaded with schemes and reads...

TIgreen01 · September 15, 2014

I expect them to be cautious about him running the ball... in fact -- I expect them to give him some of the stuff they gave Greer but hope that he can do more with it.

The issue with Dajon is not his talent -- he is immensely talented. It's more along the lines of his durability.

He has never taken a big hit and he has had some injury issues -- the most recent being last spring which led to him missing some key reps and the spring game itself...

Personally, I think injuries are a part of the game and you can't play around them. I do wish Dajon had another 15 pounds of muscle but I don't know that he will ever be the 240 pound guy back there with his body type. He will get dinged up - -heck it even happened to Derek Thompson last year. They really want to redshirt Means and I can't say that I blame them.

I look for them to use Dajon's rushing ability enough to keep the defenses honest but will not overly expose him.

If you think back to that 19 yard option run he had against SMU -- they are coaching him right now NOT to put his shoulder down and slide in that situation.

I also hope that Chico tones down the complexity of the offense. I am all about preparation but I sometimes wonder if Greer's issues were that his harddrive was overloaded with schemes and reads...

Nailed it.

Cr1028 · September 15, 2014

I hope they give him some reps against our number one defense because they are just as good or better than Indiana's defense whereas Nichols D is likely not representative of any team we face the rest of the year.

MeanGreenTexan · September 15, 2014

Canales knows how to use dual-threat QBs.

How do these stats look?

Passing:

COMP ATT PCT YDS TD INT YDS/G

122 227 53.7 1,983 14 9 152.5

Rushing:

ATT YDS TD

175 772 9

They're the 2009 stats for B.J. Daniels @ USF, under Chico.

aztecskin · September 15, 2014

I gotta think the offense won't be more complex than he can handle. He'll also have basically two weeks before Indiana. All those reps should be enough for a decent handle of the plays he'll run.

UNT90 · September 15, 2014

I expect them to be cautious about him running the ball... in fact -- I expect them to give him some of the stuff they gave Greer but hope that he can do more with it.

The issue with Dajon is not his talent -- he is immensely talented. It's more along the lines of his durability.

He has never taken a big hit and he has had some injury issues -- the most recent being last spring which led to him missing some key reps and the spring game itself...

Personally, I think injuries are a part of the game and you can't play around them. I do wish Dajon had another 15 pounds of muscle but I don't know that he will ever be the 240 pound guy back there with his body type. He will get dinged up - -heck it even happened to Derek Thompson last year. They really want to redshirt Means and I can't say that I blame them.

I look for them to use Dajon's rushing ability enough to keep the defenses honest but will not overly expose him.

If you think back to that 19 yard option run he had against SMU -- they are coaching him right now NOT to put his shoulder down and slide in that situation.

I also hope that Chico tones down the complexity of the offense. I am all about preparation but I sometimes wonder if Greer's issues were that his harddrive was overloaded with schemes and reads...

Agree with a lot of this and worry about Dajon staying healthy the rest of the year. If we are up 35 at the half against Nichols St., pull him and give Greer some much needed work (after all, we will see him again this year if DW goes down).

I disagree with Greer's problem being an over complicated offense. Greer's problems are nerves (happiest feet I've seen while standing in the pocket in quite some time) and terrible mechanics. Over time, both could be fixed, but doubtful that fix comes this year.

Everyone pray DW is 1/4 of what we hope he is and that he stays healthy all year.

Edited September 15, 2014 by UNT90

the green rokemi · September 16, 2014

Canales knows how to use dual-threat QBs.
How do these stats look?

Passing:
COMP ATT PCT YDS TD INT YDS/G
122 227 53.7 1,983 14 9 152.5
Rushing:
ATT YDS TD
175 772 9

They're the 2009 stats for B.J. Daniels @ USF, under Chico.

Um, they look okay? Should have ran more? Edited September 16, 2014 by the green rokemi

Withers940 · September 16, 2014

Agree with a lot of this and worry about Dajon staying healthy the rest of the year. If we are up 35 at the half against Nichols St., pull him and give Greer some much needed work (after all, we will see him again this year if DW goes down).
I disagree with Greer's problem being an over complicated offense. Greer's problems are nerves (happiest feet I've seen while standing in the pocket in quite some time) and terrible mechanics. Over time, both could be fixed, but doubtful that fix comes this year.
Everyone pray DW is 1/4 of what we hope he is and that he stays healthy all year.

I couldn't agree more with Greer's happy feet, he is like a tiny dancer back there. I do disagree with you however on putting Greer in after DW gets enough reps. I would like to see McNulty get some more reps and maybe throw Greer in towards the end when the game is well I'm hand and there is no pressure what so ever for him and it's almost like he's at practice. As the island people say "No pressure, no problem"

Mean_Green09 · September 16, 2014

Canales knows how to use dual-threat QBs.
How do these stats look?

Passing:
COMP ATT PCT YDS TD INT YDS/G
122 227 53.7 1,983 14 9 152.5
Rushing:
ATT YDS TD
175 772 9

They're the 2009 stats for B.J. Daniels @ USF, under Chico.

Dajon is not BJ Daniel. Not the same body type. BJ was like a RB playing QB. Dajon wouldn't survive 175 carries. All Dajon has to do is complete passes and this offense will function nicely. Maybe 4 or 5 called runs a game. Also I hope Dajon can complete over 60% of his passes

MeanGreenTexan · September 16, 2014

Dajon is not BJ Daniel. Not the same body type. BJ was like a RB playing QB. Dajon wouldn't survive 175 carries. All Dajon has to do is complete passes and this offense will function nicely. Maybe 4 or 5 called runs a game. Also I hope Dajon can complete over 60% of his passes

True on the # of runs. Maybe 4 or 5 called runs a game, but that won't stop him from turning it up the field if his called-pass-play breaks down.

Also, these are Daniels' stats from his Soph year (thus a good comparison for what we could hopefully get out of Dajon)... he got better, but these are a pretty good start.

aztecskin · September 16, 2014

If you look at Derek above, and remember his runs in general, they weren't QB Dives into the line. Those will likely get you messed up. Runs into space/out of bounds are great. They are, in effect, bootlegs.

I'd rather Dajon take a hit he sees coming than one he doesn't. That is to say bumps as he is running out of bounds are better than shots to the chest as he's firing a throw.

Ben Gooding · September 16, 2014

Yeah, and Mac was talking about doing QB powers with DW on his radio show?? What the what? I hope he was just throwing a wrench into the fan with that nonsense. That does not need to happen.

GMG24 · September 17, 2014

You guys act like a 200 lb quarterback isn't big... That's plenty big, could he add some muscle sure but. Uncle doesn't equate to durability, just FYI. Physical conditioning does, and I'm not arguing he's ready but to simply say he needs more weight then he'll be ready is silly. If you don't believe me, see what wintrich is doing with the strength program. More football performance skills than anything else.

UNT90 · September 17, 2014

I don't know, my uncle is pretty durable.

And to answer your statement, no, muscle doesn't lead to durability, but conditioning does.

Having the right combination of muscle and flexibility for body type is extremely important in avoiding injuries. DW's lack of conditioning is a huge concern going forward. Lets hope he stays upright for at least 6 games.

Edited September 17, 2014 by UNT90

KingDL1 · September 17, 2014

Agree with a lot of this and worry about Dajon staying healthy the rest of the year. If we are up 35 at the half against Nichols St., pull him and give Greer some much needed work (after all, we will see him again this year if DW goes down).
I disagree with Greer's problem being an over complicated offense. Greer's problems are nerves (happiest feet I've seen while standing in the pocket in quite some time) and terrible mechanics. Over time, both could be fixed, but doubtful that fix comes this year.
Everyone pray DW is 1/4 of what we hope he is and that he stays healthy all year.

DW what does he list at? He was 180lb and change last I heard not that I am current or correct? This where I wish he had been better on those workout reports last winter/spring.

Couldn't happy feet be a by product of over complicated, hell that could explain some maybe. The happy feet and form issues seems to be the same for all of Canales' pet QBs. That could be a description of DT most of his North Texas Career. DT never really got his form down and several times last year especially at beginnings of games he broke out the happy feet.

KingDL1 · September 17, 2014

I don't know, my uncle is pretty durable.

Have I met your Uncle?

Why is South Park in my mind all of a sudden?

greenit · September 17, 2014

How much longer do we give Williams to prove that he can perform? I am tired of waiting for him to do anything more than drive the bus. Shanbour or Cousins is clearly better. McWilly needs to show something soon.

too soon?

UNT90 · September 17, 2014

How much longer do we give Williams to prove that he can perform? I am tired of waiting for him to do anything more than drive the bus. Shanbour or Cousins is clearly better. McWilly needs to show something soon.

too soon?

Only by exactly 3 days.

Ben Gooding · September 17, 2014

Nope. This is it. If this blows up in our face, which I don't think it will, it falls on the coaching staff more than it already has.

Harry · September 17, 2014

Nope. This is it. If this blows up in our face, which I don't think it will, it falls on the coaching staff more than it already has.

Coaching staff is hoping DaJon plays well more so than the fans.

Ben Gooding · September 17, 2014

I am sure they do. He may be their meal ticket for the 2014 season. If he doesn't pan out (he will) then all blame falls on the staff for under-developing and struggling in recruiting. 3+ years to find a DT replacement. At this point this has been inexcusable.