Where we will be hard pressed to better DT

[Harry]

Just reviewing the film. you can say what you want about DT, but the kid had a NICE touch on his deep ball especially last season.

QB touch on a deep pass is like a fine wine -- it takes time to develop. The QB and WR need to vulcan mind meld with each other. I thought the communication between Darnell Harris and DT last season was as good as it has been around here in a long time. Let's hope whoever lines up under center is able to pick this up quickly. Completing a deep pass early in the game can really open up your running game.

[aztecskin]

Sure, but he was a little slow in reading coverages, even in his senior year. Joe Montana didn't have a big arm but was quick with his decision-making. Give me an average arm and a quick-thinking, accurate guy over Jeff George any day of the week except Friday because I like to go out and Jeff George seems like a good drinking buddy.

Joe Montana doesn't.

[pastorgrant]

I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. DT was great at that when he was on, but not good at it in his off games. See UTSA, for example.

[meangreen15]

I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. DT was great at that when he was on, but not good at it in his off games. See UTSA, for example.

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This

[DallasGreen]

See Heart of Dallas Bowl pass to Darnell ----as pretty and accurate as anyone has ever seen! Also look at tape of only win NT has ever had at Troy. Also @ KSU in 2012. Compare those with little Mac's only start at Tulsa--- do you miss DT yet?

[UNTcrazy727]

Can't say I agree. I lost count of all the times receivers had to stop their routes and wait for DT's under thrown balls.

[golfingomez]

See Heart of Dallas Bowl pass to Darnell ----as pretty and accurate as anyone has ever seen! Also look at tape of only win NT has ever had at Troy. Also @ KSU in 2012. Compare those with little Mac's only start at Tulsa--- do you miss DT yet?

this was the best ball he ever threw... so glad he was able to go out that way

[northtexassigep]

See his td to brelan in the Idaho game and his tds to Jimmerson in the Rice game. All 3 were successful because of the play calling that opened it up. All 3 were underthrown.

[DallasGreen]

Still the #2 QB in NT history!

[northtexassigep]

I know I overdo it on discrediting DT but I do it because I feel so many people give him too much credit for our success. I try to even the scales some because the truth is he was decent and his numbers stand out due to the lack of greats at the qb position. He was a good bus driver and he drove our team to a bowl win and for that I am grateful. That being said I am looking forward to a more talented qb who can do more than just manage a simple offense.

[UNTcrazy727]

I know I overdo it on discrediting DT but I do it because I feel so many people give him too much credit for our success. I try to even the scales some because the truth is he was decent and his numbers stand out due to the lack of greats at the qb position. He was a good bus driver and he drove our team to a bowl win and for that I am grateful. That being said I am looking forward to a more talented qb who can do more than just manage a simple offense.

[GOMG2013]

He's Trent dilfer. Why are unt fans trying to put him up there with ray Lewis and Ed reed?

[MeanGreenTexan]

Just reviewing the film. you can say what you want about DT, but the kid had a NICE touch on his deep ball especially last season.

QB touch on a deep pass is like a fine wine -- it takes time to develop. The QB and WR need to vulcan mind meld with each other. I thought the communication between Darnell Harris and DT last season was as good as it has been around here in a long time. Let's hope whoever lines up under center is able to pick this up quickly. Completing a deep pass early in the game can really open up your running game.

Good point.

I thought the communication between DT & the north end zone wall was also top-notch.

[SilverEagle]

Still the #2 QB in NT history!

Statistically.

But forget stats. Is he a better QB than....

Steve Ramsey

Vidal Carlin

Ken Smith

Ken Washington

Jordan Case

Joe Stevenson

Greg Carter

Scott Davis

Mitch Maher

Scott Hall

Or for that matter, was he better than Giovanni Vizza?

[UNT90]

See his td to brelan in the Idaho game and his tds to Jimmerson in the Rice game. All 3 were successful because of the play calling that opened it up. All 3 were underthrown.

Unless he had the arm of Zues, he wasn't going to hit Brelen in stride in that Idaho game. Brelen was THAT far behind the secondary and THAT wide open.

Also, sometimes when players are that wide open, the QB wants to be extra careful that he doesn't overthrow the receiver.

You idiots will miss DT. Just wait.

And definitely better than quitter... I mean Vizza.

Edited August 19, 2014 by UNT90

[meangreen15]

You idiots will miss DT. Just wait.

I just LOL'd myself

[meaniegreenie]

I am absolutely no expert, but I noticed that DT had a lot of trouble throwing in windy conditions. Especially when throwing WITH the wind which caused him to way overthrow receivers.

[BillySee58]

This conversation again...

It doesn't do any good. If you support DT and make posts backing him, people who are critical are going to show statistically that he wasn't great. If you show statistically that he wasn't great, you're seen as ungrateful, a DT hater, etc. Just doesn't do anyone any good.

Again, he had 8 tds against 10 interceptions in conference play. If we miss that, we better hope our defense and special teams are as good as last year. But even then, that kind of passing game will likely come back to bite us in the butt at some point, like it did when we needed to score 20 points at home against UTSA for the west division title. Oops, I forgot. Bringing up these facts means I didn't support the guy and I'm ungrateful for what he did.

Edited August 19, 2014 by BillySee58

[GrandGreen]

No DT was not one of NT's all time best QB's. However, he was a lot better than some of you will ever give him credit for..

Some of you would not be happy with any QB that has ever played the game anywhere, because every QB has bad throws and bad games that lead to loses.

Edited August 20, 2014 by GrandGreen

[Travis]

Regardless of how our play is THIS year. I won't miss LAST year's QB anymore or less than I do at this very moment.

There are too many factors from last year to this year for that to be the only thing that matters. He did a solid job last year and did what we needed of him to finally win us some games. But, comparing one position from this year to last year with so so many changes just doesn't seem well thought out.

[GTWT]

Unless he had the arm of Zues, he wasn't going to hit Brelen in stride in that Idaho game. Brelen was THAT far behind the secondary and THAT wide open.

Also, sometimes when players are that wide open, the QB wants to be extra careful that he doesn't overthrow the receiver.

You idiots will miss DT. Just wait.

And definitely better than quitter... I mean Vizza.

My gosh. I just +1ed UNT90. The world must be ending.

[foutsrouts]

DT was a very solid FBS QB. His efficiency rating was a little above average (61st?), and w/o a couple of tipped pick sixes he would had been more like Top 50. He may not have been an Elway or an Aikman, but he did a very nice job and is an all-time NT great. Hell, if I remember correctly he was rated only a couple of slots behind the "great" Garrett Gilbert last season, whom many had as the number 1 rated QB in the country coming out of HS. He provided a lot of intangibles, and was he even responsible for a fumbled T/O last season? I'd be surprised if there wasn't one somewhere, but I don't remember it.

[Green P1]

DT was better than Nathan Tune.

[emmitt01]

If any of our quarterbacks get to throw to a receiver like Brelan Chancellor then we won't miss DT.

If we don't have a receiver who is a contortionist and fights for errant throws then we will "miss" DT.

[MeanGreenZen]

Even if our quarterback is below average this season, it doesn't make Derek Thompson's career any better than it was, which was average. Average is not fun (although I will happily take it, if it comes attached to a Bowl victory.) But I am excited about the possibility of our new quarterback: Anyone But Derek Thompson, because the possibility for above average quarterback play exists now.