Texas Football looks at all D-I Coaches Salaries

[Harry]

Nice article by EJ Holland:

http://www.texasfootball.com/college-news/view/180762

[NorthTexan95]

Strong and Texas agreed to a term sheet in January that will pay him $5 million over the next five seasons.

I'm thinking they left out a "per year" from that sentence.

[KingDL1]

I wish we had nutted up to a full million a year, plus bonuses

[UNT90]

I wish we had nutted up to a full million a year, plus bonuses

My thoughts when the contract was announced, also.

[akriesman]

It's nice seeing our coaches NOT paid at the bottom of the D1 programs in Texas. It also makes a statement that this university is making a real effort to develop name recognition in sports (Basketball excluded).

Hey, Rome was not built in a day. We are off to a good start.

Edited March 25, 2014 by akriesman

[UNT Mean Green]

Given the financial 'situation' that UNT is under with the State, this contract for Mac is pretty darn solid!

[Travis]

I didn't realize how little UTEP pays. I remember maybe ten years ago or so when they upgraded their stadium that we were so far behind.

[Ben Gooding]

I think the UTEP pay is bad, really bad. They have a dedicated fan base, you'd figure it'd be much higher. I think UTEP is a school UNT needs to stay with for years to come while conference affiliation progresses.

[Mean Green 93-98]

UTEP's HC pay is around what UNT's was before this recent extension. Kugler's guaranteed $500k.

[greenminer]

I think the UTEP pay is bad, really bad. They have a dedicated fan base, you'd figure it'd be much higher. I think UTEP is a school UNT needs to stay with for years to come while conference affiliation progresses.

UTEP has always had one of the worst athletic budgets in all of college sports. It's a bi-product of the culture. Want to know where one of the top 5 Wal Marts in the world are, in terms of volume? Go to the El Paso's east side location.

They have a terrific, rabid fan base...that will only pay minimal dollar for their home tickets.

Edited March 26, 2014 by greenminer

[UNTLifer]

I wish we had nutted up to a full million a year, plus bonuses

Compared to where we were a few years ago, this is great and Mac and his coordinators are happy. Can't we be the same or do we always gave to bitch about something?

[KingDL1]

Would anyone still be thinking that if we go 5-7 next year?

Wasn't it only 4 years ago we were paying approximately 1/3 of the amount we are giving Mac? I think this is about right for where we are currently. Follow up last year's success with a couple more years of the same, then up the money a bit without extending the years.

I was just hoping to set a precedent for head coach pay here. More for the future in general to be higher in the pecking order. Not about anyone one coach or record. I assume we are trying to get the best coaches we can afford, and I wanted our budget planning set a bit higher.

Compared to where we were a few years ago, this is great and Mac and his coordinators are happy. Can't we be the same or do we always gave to bitch about something?

Sorry I did mean it as bitching it was just what I was hoping for a new level of pay. I am not sure I want to use our past at North Texas as the standard against what we will pay coaches in the future.

[outoftown]

I wish we had nutted up to a full million a year, plus bonuses

I don't understand that thinking. At all. Just paying more because it makes us seem big time is utterly a waste of money. And paying more for any other reason is not really necessary here I think.

I really don't think there is a ton of schools out there that will be willing to buy out a somewhat older coach with only one eye and two heart problems in the last two years to buy out over 3 million and then give him a long term contract that pays significantly more for it to be worth it for Mac to start building anew. Only the middle tier is really gonna be interested and 3 million will suffice to scare those away unless we go somethink like a stellar 11-1. And if against all odds a big12 school or so comes calling, then the buyout amount will matter little anyway. And there is quite a bit of incentive in this contract where it goes up a lot if he goes better than 6-6 in the next few seasons. On the other hand if we go 4-8 this season then why pay more than that. The AD cannot only have best case scenarios, he also has to think of the other possibilities.

We are talking 300k a year here, that is not peanuts.

The money we saved here will come in handy, for example to pay assistants better so they don't leave for the same job at a mid tier school like Memphis. I really want to keep Skladany. Or for buying out a certain basketball coach. Or maybe for reducing the amount of play for pay games by one every year and finally make sure that 5 home game seasons like 2015 will be never happen again. Or finally building the long time promised tennis center court so the proven successful tennis coach does not leave. Gosh i have tons of ideas that all seem more important to me than adding 300 k to coach Macs sallary

[Mean Green 93-98]

UTEP has always had one of the worst athletic budgets in all of college sports. It's a bi-product of the culture. Want to know where one of the top 5 Wal Marts in the world are, in terms of volume? Go to the El Paso's east side location.

I've been there often. . . . It's just up the road from my folks' house.

[KingDL1]

I don't understand that thinking. At all. Just paying more because it makes us seem big time is utterly a waste of money. And paying more for any other reason is not really necessary here I think.

I really don't think there is a ton of schools out there that will be willing to buy out a somewhat older coach with only one eye and two heart problems in the last two years to buy out over 3 million and then give him a long term contract that pays significantly more for it to be worth it for Mac to start building anew. Only the middle tier is really gonna be interested and 3 million will suffice to scare those away unless we go somethink like a stellar 11-1. And if against all odds a big12 school or so comes calling, then the buyout amount will matter little anyway. And there is quite a bit of incentive in this contract where it goes up a lot if he goes better than 6-6 in the next few seasons. On the other hand if we go 4-8 this season then why pay more than that. The AD cannot only have best case scenarios, he also has to think of the other possibilities.

We are talking 300k a year here, that is not peanuts.

The money we saved here will come in handy, for example to pay assistants better so they don't leave for the same job at a mid tier school like Memphis. I really want to keep Skladany. Or for buying out a certain basketball coach. Or maybe for reducing the amount of play for pay games by one every year and finally make sure that 5 home game seasons like 2015 will be never happen again. Or finally building the long time promised tennis center court so the proven successful tennis coach does not leave. Gosh i have tons of ideas that all seem more important to me than adding 300 k to coach Macs sallary

I am not sure what you missed? It is about getting our budget up to a competitive level, in 2012 the average D1 football head-coach made $1.64 million and I know it has gone up a bit in the last year and half from when this article was published November 20, 2012. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/11/19/college-football-coaches-contracts-analysis-pay-increase/1715435/

We have this new contract at roughly half of the average amount set in 2012? I feel that $1 million and right at a million is a milestone at 7 digits, not that we cheaped our way into a deal and save a couple hundred thousand a year.

[outoftown]

I am not sure what you missed? It is about getting our budget up to a competitive level, in 2012 the average D1 football head-coach made $1.64 million and I know it has gone up a bit in the last year and half from when this article was published November 20, 2012. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/11/19/college-football-coaches-contracts-analysis-pay-increase/1715435/

We have this new contract at roughly half of the average amount set in 2012? I feel that $1 million and right at a million is a milestone at 7 digits, not that we cheaped our way into a deal and save a couple hundred thousand a year.

I am gonna put this much shorter than I did before:

I'd like to see an increased AD budget too. But I don't care how other schools distribute the budgets they have.

bottom line: We are paying market value for a coach we are currently happy with and who is unlikely to go anywhere. Paying more than market value would be wasteful.

[KingDL1]

I am gonna put this much shorter than I did before:

I'd like to see an increased AD budget too. But I don't care how other schools distribute the budgets they have.

bottom line: We are paying market value for a coach we are currently happy with and who is unlikely to go anywhere. Paying more than market value would be wasteful.

I would say it is clearly under market value, I would be interested to see where you get market value from?

Maybe I am looking at the long range picture you are looking at the immediate.