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I like the point he makes about the AD making a decision on the hire versus hiring an outside consultant. AD's are being paid to make these decisions.

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I like the point he makes about the AD making a decision on the hire versus hiring an outside consultant. AD's are being paid to make these decisions.

Absolutely!

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I like the point he makes about the AD making a decision on the hire versus hiring an outside consultant. AD's are being paid to make these decisions.

Correct me I'm wrong, but here at UNT, the AD doesn't have final say on the pick, correct? Because I've been told over and over that RV didn't hire Shanice Stephens, Bataille did. That hiring McCarney and Benford were done by Rawlins...

If this is right, then RV doesn't deserve complaints, he deserves pity. And you really have to ask if he left his pride behind for a paycheck if he cannot hire (and presumabll, fire) coaches for revenue sports. No way I could see ADs at other peer universities running an athletic department without that kind of sway or influence.

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Correct me I'm wrong, but here at UNT, the AD doesn't have final say on the pick, correct? Because I've been told over and over that RV didn't hire Shanice Stephens, Bataille did. That hiring McCarney and Benford were done by Rawlins...

If this is right, then RV doesn't deserve complaints, he deserves pity. And you really have to ask if he left his pride behind for a paycheck if he cannot hire (and presumabll, fire) coaches for revenue sports. No way I could see ADs at other peer universities running an athletic department without that kind of sway or influence.

If this is correct, which I HIGHLY doubt, why do we even have an AD?

These are excuses people use. One side uses it to defend RV (well, he didn't hire Stephens, that was the President!) while the other uses it to baste RV (he's terrible, he really didn't hire Mac, that was Rawlins).

RV is responsible for EVERY hire, good and bad. Anyone tries to tell you different and they are trying to push an agenda.

Any AD so weak that he can't make these decisions should not be an AD. I'm quite certain RV would agree with this point.

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I believe that the hires were made 'in concert' with the president...blame or praise both the ad and the prez.

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I believe that the hires were made 'in concert' with the president...blame or praise both the ad and the prez.

If an AD isn't strong enough to influence a President to his position on a candidate, then he is a weak AD and should be fired (this is not a reference to RV at all, just a general statement).

And the thing is, none of us know. AD is accountable for ALL sports hires. Period.

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I like the point he makes about the AD making a decision on the hire versus hiring an outside consultant. AD's are being paid to make these decisions.

Sometimes it's quicker to just hire the consultant as the new coach. Edited by emmitt01
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If an AD isn't strong enough to influence a President to his position on a candidate, then he is a weak AD and should be fired (this is not a reference to RV at all, just a general statement).

And the thing is, none of us know. AD is accountable for ALL sports hires. Period.

I absolutely agree, UNT90. But, I'll also add that a school president should know that the AD's job responsibility is to make the hiring decision, not to get their input and who they think is the right hire--that's why you have an AD. The President of a university isn't going to ask for the AD to make the final say on who will build an athletic dorm or facility. I'm just glad to get clarification on this. If RV couldn't even get to pick coaches and had to let the President decide, then he would have given up any pride he could ever have just to collect a paycheck.

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Two things about Baitaille:

1) No coach, in any sport, for any reason, was going to make more than the university president under her watch. Period.

2) She got her doctorate in something along the lines of Native American Mystic Poetic Song because, and I asked her personally, "There's been enough studies about straight old white men."

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Two things about Baitaille:

1) No coach, in any sport, for any reason, was going to make more than the university president under her watch. Period.

2) She got her doctorate in something along the lines of Native American Mystic Poetic Song because, and I asked her personally, "There's been enough studies about straight old white men."

I'm not sure what she has to do with this. She was gone 2 years before Benford was even hired. Or am I missing something here?

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I'm not sure what she has to do with this. She was gone 2 years before Benford was even hired. Or am I missing something here?

Was in reference to earlier statements about Stephens, and unmentioned jabs at the (monumentally horrific) Dodge hire.

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Was in reference to earlier statements about Stephens, and unmentioned jabs at the (monumentally horrific) Dodge hire.

Gotcha. I missed the post that you were referencing to

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