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Rick Villarreal expressed confidence in the direction of the UNT basketball program on Tuesday afternoon as the Mean Green prepared to take on Rice in an opening round game in the Conference USA tournament in El Paso.

I feel really good about where we are, Villarreal said. I dont feel great that we are the 10th seed. No one would feel good about it, but without the right guidance we easily could have been the 15th seed.

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Surely, Rick knows that this was statistically the worst season in the history of CUSA basketball, right? And with the exception of one year, it isn't even remotely close.

Right?

I mean, NO leadership would have gotten us the 15th seed. Literally, a rec team with no coach wearing North Texas jerseys would have gotten the 15th seed this year.

Surely Rick doesn't honestly think that Benford 'guiding' us to 11th place in the worst season of CUSA basketball should be anything other than a point of shame and disgrace. Right? RIGHT???

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I feel really good about where we are, Villarreal said. I dont feel great that we are the 10th seed. No one would feel good about it, but without the right guidance we easily could have been the 15th seed.

Well sure, I guess if we had no coach at all. One could also argue that with better guidance we could have been a higher seed.

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untbowler Grand Master

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RV has to be positive his job should be on the line for hiring this debacle of a coach.

Way top be proud of an 11th place finish RV, guess BB goal was hit 11th or better, pathetic leadership

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Greenrex Veteran

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What else is the bureaucrat who made the decision to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in that coach going to say? The AD needs some mighty heat applied to his feet...you know just like they do at real big-time schools. The new president needs to feel that heat too...Big Time.

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Historical context:

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/ncf/news/story?id=4707064 - Key quote:

"There's been enough improvement that (Dodge) deserves the chance. If I didn't think he could do it, I wouldn't have made the decision. It's a young team that should keep growing."

At least when we kept Dodge for one more catastrophic year, Rick was at least setting some sort of vague standard or expectation. Specifically:

"I would tell you that .500 would not be a number I'd be excited about," Villarreal said.

Of course, when we started 0-3, there was some equivocation on that front... But, a month later, we fired him!

Anyway... We're talking even less tough with Benford than we did with Dodge. NOT ENCOURAGING!

How do YOU feel about things, Pete?

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I've never been on the fire RV train. I think he has done some really good things for the athletic program.

But, if he honestly believes this team will be better next year with Benford as the coach, then I hope he goes down with the ship.

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I've never been on the fire RV train. I think he has done some really good things for the athletic program.

But, if he honestly believes this team will be better next year with Benford as the coach, then I hope he goes down with the ship.

Ditto.

If he wants to excuse this away for another year, he deserves the same consequences Benford seems destined for.

Because if Rick Villarreal is confident in the future of UNT basketball with Tony Benford as the coach, Rick Villarreal is WRONG.

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Remember I said a few months ago that if we got to around .500 for the season and went a round or two deep into the tourney, Benford would be safe whether you like it or not? Hmmm...well I think he's safe, like it or not.

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Remember I said a few months ago that if we got to around .500 for the season and went a round or two deep into the tourney, Benford would be safe whether you like it or not? Hmmm...well I think he's safe, like it or not.

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Yeah, and I suspect that's the case with most, but this is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation...even with the easier schedule, the record improved slightly over last year and we won a game in the tournament, so if Rick fired him now, it would seem to his supporters that he got fired for improving. On the other hand, his detractors can validate their expectations of him being gone with the bad losses and awful conference record. Since you get so many arguments on both sides of the fence, it's hard to make the case for the more extreme choice (firing him and buying out his contract). If this year had been insanely bad (single digits in the win column) then he would likely have been gone. As it is, year 3 will definitely be his hot seat year, which is kind of what was expected in the first place, wasn't it?

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Rick Villarreal expressed confidence in the direction of the UNT basketball program on Tuesday afternoon as the Mean Green prepared to take on Rice in an opening round game in the Conference USA tournament in El Paso.

I feel really good about where we are, Villarreal said. I dont feel great that we are the 10th seed. No one would feel good about it, but without the right guidance we easily could have been the 15th seed.

- See more at: http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/2014/03/villarreal-confident-in-future-of-unt-basketball.html/#sthash.xVoDMg4d.dpuf

Bury your head in the sand and refuse to admit a terrible mistake.

He may be confident in the future of UNT basketball, but I'm losing confidence in the future of UNT athletics with RV in charge.

Doesn't matter. RV will retire from UNT when he is ready, no matter how many terrible hires he makes or how many 5 home game seasons we have in football.

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Yeah, and I suspect that's the case with most, but this is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation...even with the easier schedule, the record improved slightly over last year and we won a game in the tournament, so if Rick fired him now, it would seem to his supporters that he got fired for improving. On the other hand, his detractors can validate their expectations of him being gone with the bad losses and awful conference record. Since you get so many arguments on both sides of the fence, it's hard to make the case for the more extreme choice (firing him and buying out his contract). If this year had been insanely bad (single digits in the win column) then he would likely have been gone. As it is, year 3 will definitely be his hot seat year, which is kind of what was expected in the first place, wasn't it?

Others have said better than I can that allowing him to handle the next class with 7 'ships is madness. Letting the guy who has not been able to get and keep a single HS recruit on the court handle that many open spots IS an extreme choice.

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