NCAA 10 Second Rule Proposal

[jdennis82]

Thoughts on the current proposal to allow defenses 10 seconds for subsitutions/adjustments before the offense is allowed to snap the ball? Seems to me, this is being proposed by schools/coaches who rely on the size advantage of the defensive lines. The spread & hurry up offenses have neutralized that advantage by exposing Jimmy Johnson's philosophy that "fatigue makes cowards of us all." The reason given of player safety makes sense as tired players are at higher risk of injury but I think it could be argued that there are long-term health benefits of developing more conditioned athletes who are better suited to avoid extreme fatigue altogether. Even though we finished middle of the pack in plays/game (#59 with an avg of 74 plays/gm), we all heard Chico continually push for greater tempo out of our offense so it would seem this rule would counter his offensive philosophy. The vote goes down March 6 and most are expecting it to be shot down, but interesting nonetheless.

[Stan R]

I thought this was going to amend the 5 second rule for food errantly dropped on the floor. That wouldn't be a good idea.

[akriesman]

This proposal is ridiculous and is an attempt by the old guard to punish any kind of innovation that might change the landscape of the game. I do suspect that this is somewhat of an attempt by the power schools to keep the little guy down.

Chip Kelly is probably glad he went pro. Hopefully, the NFL won't follow suit if it passes.

[greenminer]

Badbadbad for the non-P5s.

Goodgoodgood for old school, hard nosed football.

[CMJ]

This proposal is ridiculous and is an attempt by the old guard to punish any kind of innovation that might change the landscape of the game. I do suspect that this is somewhat of an attempt by the power schools to keep the little guy down.

Chip Kelly is probably glad he went pro. Hopefully, the NFL won't follow suit if it passes.

Actually, I think it's an attempt by Saban to control the state of Alabama/the SEC. Gus Malzahn kicked him in the teeth this year.

[UNTFan23]

I wonder if that is 10 seconds from the moment the 40 second play clock starts or 10 seconds once the ball has been set by the umpire? Remember, all you have to do is allow them to substitute, not allow them to get set (or make sure they are not offsides!).

[Ben Gooding]

Nick Saban and Bo Peleni were the only coaches that sat in front of the NCAA rule committee pleading their case. Fast tempo offensive coaches didn't even know this meeting was taking place. If this happens it will be a giant advantage to the P5 schools, particularly the ones that can recruit mammoth defensive guys...Alabama. This has Nick Saban written all over it. Rich Rodriguez, Arizona HC, had a funny comment about it. He said if this gets passed then blitzing LB's should have to raise their hand pre-snap to make things neutral.

[meangreener]

I hate gimmicky Oregon style football, so I love this rule change. It's ruining the sport.

Benefits us, anyway.

[UNTFan23]

I hate gimmicky Oregon style football, so I love this rule change. It's ruining the sport.

Benefits us, anyway.

It doesn't benefit or really hurt us at all. After looking around it appears the rule, if it is understood by analysts for sports media outlets like ESPN is correct, would force the offense to wait until the play clock reads 29 seconds before they can snap the ball. Think about how long it takes the umpire to set the ball. Many times it is at or near 29 seconds anyway and so the offense really is not losing any time to run a few extra plays. I really can't think of any situations where we snapped the ball with more than 30 seconds on the play clock.

Like I said earlier, the point of the rule is to allow the defense to substitute, not make sure the defensive players are set or on their side of the ball. A smart coordinator will just tell his QB and offensive players to be ready to snap the ball at the 29 mark of the play clock -- who cares if the defense is ready or not.

[Ben Gooding]

It hurts the uptempo offenses bc they thrive on gaining first downs and rushing to the line on 1st & 10 and snap another play as fast as they can. It takes away the actual meaning of "offense" and "defense." It doesn't hurt North Texas right now, but it could in the future pending who our new coach is once Mac hangs up the whistle.

[DT 90]

NCAA Rules

Timing Devices

Rule 3/ARTICLE 4.

a.Game Clock

b. 40 Second Clock. 1. When an offical signals that the ball is dead, the play clock shall begin a 40 second count.

Yes it will keep teams form doing as previously described (1 and 10 and running to the ball and snapping it) but overall it will have little impact.

2012 Houston was the "fastest" team running 3.02 plays per minute of possession or one play every 18.3 seconds. They would have be going a lot faster than that to really be impacted by the new rule.

Plays per minute.

Oregon - 2.83

Texas Tech - 2.69

Oklahoma - 2.68

Texas A&M - 2.67

MTSU- 2.64

La Tech- 2.64

Troy - 2.64

Tulsa - 2.61

Baylor- 2.59

Alabama was the slowest at 2.02

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2013/4/24/4263582/tempo

The impact of the other new rule is that of the "Targeting fouls". If it is deemed not to be targeting by review then there is no personal foul penalty.

Edited February 14, 2014 by DT 90