Storming the Field

[oldguystudent]

The only really motivated guy I saw was the 65 plus year old security guard who seemed to take it personal.

I kept seeing that guy. He did look like he was taking it personally, and seemed to be taking every opportunity to get physically rough with kids that he could. His face personified pissed off.

I feel bad for the very few kids who were the early jumpers that probably got full on arrested and booked. One does certainly assume that risk in such an endeavor, but sadly, those young kids don't realize that they're likely to have a little black mark on their records that they'll have to disclose to potential employers forever, and that that little black mark will increasingly get them auto kicked from the computer reviewed pool of resumes. For what is mostly such a benign thing, that sucks.

[UNTFan23]

I would attempt to research to see if anyone was processed by DPD on their website but I get .Net errors when performing searches:

Server Error in '/' Application. Cannot find column vvservicenumber.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Cannot find column vvservicenumber.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:

[indexOutOfRangeException: Cannot find column vvservicenumber.]
System.Data.DataTable.ParseSortString(String sortString) +3285970
System.Data.DataView.CheckSort(String sort) +35
System.Data.DataView.set_Sort(String value) +155
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System.Web.UI.Control.OnLoad(EventArgs e) +132
System.Web.UI.Control.LoadRecursive() +66
System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +2428

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.4241; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.4244

[Cerebus]

I would attempt to research to see if anyone was processed by DPD on their website but I get .Net errors when performing searches:

As usual, this probably some programmers fault.

[UNTFan23]

As usual, this probably some programmers fault.

I don't code in .Net so I can't tell what the problem is but you can't find complaints which helps in finding arrest records.

[Green Mean]

We're all black friends.

[Eastwood Eagle]

I let the first wave of brave souls go out there and then me and my friend rushed on. I don't think most of the cops really cared, when I was going back in the stands I saw many of them taking pictures for people. Hopefully no arrest came out of it (unless for theft/vandalism/etc..).

[UNTDoubleAlum]

Yeah, I had to deal with an overaggressive officer who told me to "GET OUT OF MY FACE" while I was down on the field.

In these kinds of situations, the impetus must be on the officer, the public servant, to behave in a professional and even manner. The argument that cops should always react to any situation with the maximum amount of aggressive force is a slippery slope, at best. The officer shouldn't have had to automatically assume that I wasn't going to hurt him, but since I made no indication of doing so, I also have every right to be treated with the maximum amount of respect. This guy was mad. He was mad that thing's hadn't gone his way, and while that doesn't mean that Dallas cops or any cops are all the same, a bully with a badge is still a bully.

[Eastwood Eagle]

For anyone questioning whether storming the field is appropriate, the players were also egging it on.

[10Eagle10]

serious question: meangreener, did you or any of your friends take home any hats or other paraphanelia?

[JRock]

Yeah, I had to deal with an overaggressive officer who told me to "GET OUT OF MY FACE" while I was down on the field.

In these kinds of situations, the impetus must be on the officer, the public servant, to behave in a professional and even manner. The argument that cops should always react to any situation with the maximum amount of aggressive force is a slippery slope, at best. The officer shouldn't have had to automatically assume that I wasn't going to hurt him, but since I made no indication of doing so, I also have every right to be treated with the maximum amount of respect. This guy was mad. He was mad that thing's hadn't gone his way, and while that doesn't mean that Dallas cops or any cops are all the same, a bully with a badge is still a bully.

We saw that...were you the guy who ran just behind that little kid? That police officer stood there in your face reading you the riot act. He looked like a fool standing there doing that while the team and fans were celebrating. My family was like..uh...that officer is being way over the top no question. You were doing nothing wrong.

[filmerj]

I saw one of the first guys to go down there slip by one officer and get clothes lined by another when he got close to the team. Another dude got escorted out by the back of his shirt as if he were some little child. This was a grey bearded dude. I think the whole situation was a little ridiculous. I mean did they think the goal posts were going to come down? FOX sports online even made fun of us saying our fans didn't know what to do after a bowl win.

Edited January 2, 2014 by filmerj

[KRAM1]

I saw one of the first guys to go down there slip by one officer and get clothes lined by another when he got close to the team. Another dude got escorted out by the back of his shirt as if he were some little child. This was a grey bearded dude. I think the whole situation was a little ridiculous. I mean did they think the goal posts were going to come down? FOX sports online even made fun of us saying our fans didn't know what to do after a bowl win.

I think it was more the police who didn't know how to act! They seemed to want to create a problem out of something that was no problem at all. These guys probably aren't paid to think...just react. They got to get in some free licks on some kids! Fun times for all, right?

But, let's be honest...what did one expect them to do? Just stand back and allow folks to rush the field in celebration? Heck, they may have trashed the Cotton Bowl or something ahead of the Cotton Bowl game....Oh, wait...that's at Jerry. world!

Maybe Chief Brown needs to go...you know, can't coach his players to handle these really tough situations properly. It is his fault if his guys don't execute the game plan, right? Who the heck hired the guy in charge of this security detail of off-duty cops? Were they off-duty or is this on-duty work? Did they not go over this and how maybe to handle the situation should it happen? If so, and if these guys did not execute the plan the coach set out, well, coach's fault...fire the coach...err....head cop, Lt., Sgt. Or whomever, right? Because that's always the perfect solution.

OK, sarcasm alert! Get it? Just joking around with a bit of irony.

Edited January 2, 2014 by KRAM1

[Rudy]

These guys probably aren't laid to think

In all fairness, who really gets laid to think?

[redallover]

My nine year old son wanted to celebrate on the field after he saw everyone else doing it. "Why can't I go onto the field? I never get to go onto a real football field."

What games at Apogee have had fans rushing the field in a large way? Win over Indiana?

[KRAM1]

In all fairness, who really gets laid to think?

Plus one for you, Sir! Answer...I wish I did! Well, in my younger days that is...the old song line that "I ain't good as I once was, but I am good once as I always was" pretty much applies today! Just sayin....

I'll go edit that part! Great catch!

[UNTexas]

Who cares if fans rushed the field? If you noticed most of the DPD guys didn't bother trying to stop it. I only saw a fat out of shape cop try. Try is the key word because he didn't haul anyone off. I enjoyed watching him run around though. They knew it was a good hearted no harm no foul gesture. It wasn't an angry riotous mob.

[UNT90]

There were police and security guards on the field. Security seemed much more aggressive than police. Imagine that.

For all you saying that you don't see what the big deal was, well, you were breaking a law. Criminal Trespass to be exact. This wasn't Apogee, and it isn't the worst crime in the world, but stop acting like you did nothing wrong when by law you did.

You can't always do what you want to do just because "dude, laws are stupid."

You charge a field, you take a chance of getting arrested. That's why it doesn't happen at Ranger games, Cowboy games and the like.

[untjim1995]

serious question: meangreener, did you or any of your friends take home any hats or other paraphanelia?

He's the worst poster on this site...and its saying something, although GL2Greatness and Froggy Style were right there with him until they disappeared. Just use the ignore function.

[CoachQuack]

I scrolled through all the seemingly meaningless arguing and bickering. I rushed the field. I let the first group go because I had to shimmy my way over to a shorter jump (7 feet instead of 13 or something like that) and then had no issues getting to the field. However, one of the girls I was with brother got arrested shortly after I got onto the field exactly where I jumped off. Sucks for him. I was told that the cop directly told him not to jump off and he went ahead and did it, and then kind of wrestled to get away before getting tackled and arrested. Idiot.

I see no issue with people rushing the field except that it's borderline riot. I don't think they wanted anyone getting hurt to avoid legal issues. Also things like pulling down the goal posts, stealing from players (saw quite a few people grabbing players and practically forcing them to give them their game-day gloves), and people acting ridiculous.

I would be interested in knowing how many of the people who rushed the field have been to all games UNT, or at least home games. Or if they were just fairweather fans who wanted to steal junk from the players. We'll never know!