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Contracts are meant to be broken...it's not like coaches haven't left before, even though they had a contract...

Yeah, but you don't sign a contract of this magnitude right before you leave. It's pretty obvious that Saban and his agent just used UT to get that fat pay raise.

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A little birdie (named Nick Saban) told me, and everyone else,"I never considered leaving to be the coach at Texas".

Translation: "I already coach in the best conference in America, have a stacked roster and would be a fool to leave. Thank you Texas for letting me pimp you while I drove up the price of my contract extension"

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This is where I am with it as well. The facts are ugly, but must be faced: NCAA will disappear. Big Ten commish was on last weekend scolding smaller college for hanging on, basically saying they (the 5 Monopoly Conferences) would be forced to separate from the NCAA and do their own thing.

It's pathetic. It's also part of the reason why I've said before that they should just drop the charade and make those conferences a minor league to the NFL. Have the NFL draft for the rights to players coming out of high school, like in baseball.

NFL teams could trade rights depending on how a kid's college career is going. They could give them bonus money to pay for school expenses. That would get around the ugliness of schools paying the players.

Also, it would give some financial stability to a group of athletes who really tear their body up at a young age so that colleges (and their coaches) and networks and advetisers can make millions, now billions, off of them.

Baseball players coming out of high school can get a pretty good chuck of cash, even if they are drafted in late rounds and only play a couple of seasons in the minors.

It's an ugly thing going on. And, at the heart of it is money. It is, of course, the height of hypocrisy that so many conferences can participate in March Madness for basketball - and every other amatuer college sport - but football is closed off. But, no one will do anything about it.

For our part, I simply hope those schools not in the 5 Monopolies will simply stop scheduling them.

Next year will be the 30th anniversary of Oklahoma and Georgia kicking this whole thing off by winning their antitrust lawsuit agianst the NCAA over television rights. In the 30 years hence, it's transitioned from the NCAA picking the games to be televised to:

(1) the CFA, to

(2) Notre Dame getting their own TV deal, to

(3) Conferences negotiating their own television contracts, to

(4) the Bowl Alliance, to

(5) the BCS, to

(6) the Big Ten starting a network, to

(7) Texas starting a network...and,

(8) it will end within the next 18 to 24 months with the 5 Monopolies leaving the NCAA.

We were mired in I-AA during (1) - (4), stuck with bad facilities and lack of funds/interest during most of (5) and (6). By (7), we had our new stadium up. But, we will already be too late to participate in (8).

It doesn't matter to me. You look at the circus going on between Texas and Alabama over a football coach, the circus of the USC and Miami player pay schemes, and Penn State ignoring a child molesting assistant...and, it kind of makes me feel decent about not being there.

This is where I am with it as well. The facts are ugly, but must be faced: NCAA will disappear. Big Ten commish was on last weekend scolding smaller college for hanging on, basically saying they (the 5 Monopoly Conferences) would be forced to separate from the NCAA and do their own thing.

It's pathetic. It's also part of the reason why I've said before that they should just drop the charade and make those conferences a minor league to the NFL. Have the NFL draft for the rights to players coming out of high school, like in baseball.

NFL teams could trade rights depending on how a kid's college career is going. They could give them bonus money to pay for school expenses. That would get around the ugliness of schools paying the players.

Also, it would give some financial stability to a group of athletes who really tear their body up at a young age so that colleges (and their coaches) and networks and advetisers can make millions, now billions, off of them.

Baseball players coming out of high school can get a pretty good chuck of cash, even if they are drafted in late rounds and only play a couple of seasons in the minors.

It's an ugly thing going on. And, at the heart of it is money. It is, of course, the height of hypocrisy that so many conferences can participate in March Madness for basketball - and every other amatuer college sport - but football is closed off. But, no one will do anything about it.

For our part, I simply hope those schools not in the 5 Monopolies will simply stop scheduling them.

Next year will be the 30th anniversary of Oklahoma and Georgia kicking this whole thing off by winning their antitrust lawsuit agianst the NCAA over television rights. In the 30 years hence, it's transitioned from the NCAA picking the games to be televised to:

(1) the CFA, to

(2) Notre Dame getting their own TV deal, to

(3) Conferences negotiating their own television contracts, to

(4) the Bowl Alliance, to

(5) the BCS, to

(6) the Big Ten starting a network, to

(7) Texas starting a network...and,

(8) it will end within the next 18 to 24 months with the 5 Monopolies leaving the NCAA.

We were mired in I-AA during (1) - (4), stuck with bad facilities and lack of funds/interest during most of (5) and (6). By (7), we had our new stadium up. But, we will already be too late to participate in (8).

It doesn't matter to me. You look at the circus going on between Texas and Alabama over a football coach, the circus of the USC and Miami player pay schemes, and Penn State ignoring a child molesting assistant...and, it kind of makes me feel decent about not being there.

I cannot improve on those sentiments. Perfectly well said.
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North Texas has never been on NCAA probabation. Most the schools from the old SWC have and some of that group were on probation several times. That's about it.

GMG!

I believe Rice was the only SWC never to be on probation and I think only Rice and UNT are the only two D1 Texas schools never to be on probation. If you want to see probation madness check out how many time SMU was on probation throughout its history leading up to the death penalty.
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I believe Rice was the only SWC never to be on probation and I think only Rice and UNT are the only two D1 Texas schools never to be on probation. If you want to see probation madness check out how many time SMU was on probation throughout its history leading up to the death penalty.

Coker has already gotten UTSA on probation, in the first 3 years of the program? :P

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Maybe not football, but they went through a couple rounds in basketball.

I couldn't find anything on Shark while he was at UNLV. Did you see something I missed, perhaps a different coaching regime?

edit: gotta admit, I only combed over a couple Wikis.

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The NCAA never proved anything on Tark. I believe he won a huge lawsuit against them.

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They were ineligible for post season play at least once while I was in undergrad. That allowed our school to make the Big West tournament final. I believe Tark may have just left a la Pete Carroll.

Later on, they had some scandals that involved a completely different staff. Tampering with recruit admission test scores. Probation came down in 2000.

Edit:

Published: November 10, 1993

The University of Nevada-Las Vegas men's basketball program was placed on three years' probation today by the N.C.A.A. in a settlement of a six-year-old case that began with inquiries into the recruitment of Lloyd Daniels, a former New York City scholastic star at Andrew Jackson High School.

December 12, 2000 UNLV's basketball program, no stranger to problems with the NCAA, was placed on four years' probation Tuesday for violations that included a booster's payment of $5,600 to Lamar Odom and the failure to monitor recruiting visits.

UNLV responded to the sanctions by firing coach Bill Bayno, according to Fox Sports and KTNV-TV. An afternoon news conference was scheduled to discuss the sanctions.

Bayno, who had coached the Runnin' Rebels for five years, did not respond to calls on his cell phone. The Rebels were off to a 3-4 start this season and lost Saturday to rival Nevada.

The university escaped the "death penalty" for the program despite the fact the infractions occurred within five years of a previous probation and were similar to earlier UNLV violations.

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