Kill 4, Maim And Wound 9 Others...10 Years Probabion.

[forevereagle]

Since the judge is blaming the parents and not the kid..... I am hoping the the families of the victims can sue his parents for millions to the point it hurts and get it. Maybe that will get their attention.

Better yet, they can get the jail time he deserved.

[UNTFan23]

Since the judge is blaming the parents and not the kid..... I am hoping the the families of the victims can sue his parents for millions to the point it hurts and get it. Maybe that will get their attention.

Right because suing someone into bankruptcy always fixes the problem. Then the family can go on food stamps and other government programs just to survive.

[UNT90]

The problem is more or less how the system works and not just this particular judge. From other sources I've read, the judge's reasoning was that if he was sent to juvenile he would likely be released when he turns 18 in 2 years. By putting him under strict probation for 10, the kid is still kept under watch and will be handed a more severe punishment if he violates his parole.

From what I gather, apparently this was a no-win situation for the judge....?????

You are completely wrong. It absolutely IS this particular judge. Wanna get away with a crime in Tarrant County? Do it before you turn 17 and pray that you don't get certified to stand trial as an adult.

Anyone who knows anything about Judge Boyd's record isn't surprised by this one bit. She is as bleeding heart as bleeding heart gets, and would believe a serial killer could be rehabilitated with a little counseling (ok, maybe an exaggeration, but not by much).

Detectives handling violent juvenile crime in Tarrant County find out real quick that they are nothing but paper pushers because, no matter the crime, and no matter the race of the offender, and no matter the social status, if that offender isn't certified as an adult, the most that will happen is a very weak probation.

And we are talking major cirimes here, folks.

Thank God Judge Boyd did us all a favor by not running for re-election. Good riddance. Maybe now Tarrant County can put the "Justice" back in "Juvenile Justice System."

[UNT90]

He would have to be tried as an adult and for whatever reason that didn't take place.

That didn't take place because Judge Boyd refused to certify him as an adult.

[UNT90]

The problem is more or less how the system works and not just this particular judge. From other sources I've read, the judge's reasoning was that if he was sent to juvenile he would likely be released when he turns 18 in 2 years. By putting him under strict probation for 10, the kid is still kept under watch and will be handed a more severe punishment if he violates his parole.

From what I gather, apparently this was a no-win situation for the judge....?????

He may have been PAROLED in 2 years, but parole is much more strict than probation and if you violate parole once, it's back to the pen. Violate probation and guess who decides what happens?

That's right, Judge Boyd. And she NEVER sends anyone away on probation violations. She is the queen of the 10th chance.

[UNT90]

Well evidently that's not what he was charged with. Didn't say it was right but I agree this is more of a system deal than the judge being lenient.

The "system" is made up of real, live, breathing people that make the decisions that make the "system."

The "system" in this case was Judge Boyd. She made a decision. It was terrible. But that is nothing new.

[ChristopherRyanWilkes]

You are completely wrong. It absolutely IS this particular judge. Wanna get away with a crime in Tarrant County? Do it before you turn 17 and pray that you don't get certified to stand trial as an adult.

Anyone who knows anything about Judge Boyd's record isn't surprised by this one bit. She is as bleeding heart as bleeding heart gets, and would believe a serial killer could be rehabilitated with a little counseling (ok, maybe an exaggeration, but not by much).

Detectives handling violent juvenile crime in Tarrant County find out real quick that they are nothing but paper pushers because, no matter the crime, and no matter the race of the offender, and no matter the social status, if that offender isn't certified as an adult, the most that will happen is a very weak probation.

And we are talking major cirimes here, folks.

Thank God Judge Boyd did us all a favor by not running for re-election. Good riddance. Maybe now Tarrant County can put the "Justice" back in "Juvenile Justice System."

Yeah,you may be right on that Judge. Although the bleeding heart part,she apparently didn't get the memo that libs hate rich people.

[oldguystudent]

Hey they don't pay no mind

If you're under 18 you won't be doing any time

UNT90. Where would I look up the Judge's records to see if she's as ridiculously lenient with a 16-year-old, um, how to put this gently, less socio-economically advantaged defendant?

I will buy that she's the queen of the 10th chance, but I struggle imagining that without a slick lawyer coining the term "Affluenza" that a kid would've gotten off so lightly.

As for the civil suits against his parents. If they're savvy rich people, and no doubt they are, they probably don't actually own anything. All the assets will be wrapped up in corporations held by partnerships wrapped up in irrevocable trusts that pay money to the beneficiaries (the family) for Health, Education, Maintenance, and Support. Do that right, and nobody can sue you for anything ever.

[ChristopherRyanWilkes]

I think this case really has touched on a lot of nerves though on that point. Liberals have been talking about it because a rich white kid got off and conservatives have been talking about it because of the lenient juvenile justice system. But basically its managed to piss everyone off.

[UNT90]

And don't discount the possibility that part of this sentence may be a big FU to her critics.

She's not running for re-election.

Edited December 13, 2013 by UNT90

[UNT90]

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/tarrant/Decision-in-16-year-olds-drunk-driving-case-raises-questions-about-judges-previous-decision-235688241.html

Expect more of these types of articles as her record is more thoroughly examined.

January, 2015 can't get here fast enough.

Edited December 13, 2013 by UNT90

[Mean Green 93-98]

He may have been PAROLED in 2 years, but parole is much more strict than probation and if you violate parole once, it's back to the pen. Violate probation and guess who decides what happens?

That's right, Judge Boyd. And she NEVER sends anyone away on probation violations. She is the queen of the 10th chance.

I agree with pretty much everything else you said, but I'm pretty sure that if a juvenile is tried as a juvenile, he is automatically released on his 18th birthday. There is no approval necessary by a parole board. That is why you have to try a juvenile as an adult to sentence him to any real time.

[ChristopherRyanWilkes]

I agree with pretty much everything else you said, but I'm pretty sure that if a juvenile is tried as a juvenile, he is automatically released on his 18th birthday. There is no approval necessary by a parole board. That is why you have to try a juvenile as an adult to sentence him to any real time.

Pretty good information on the process and determinations made in trying a juvenile as an adult. In my opinion, yes, the offense was serious enough to warrant a waiver and this does come down the judge. The more I read about it the more I agree with 90's assessment. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/juveniles-youth-adult-criminal-court-32226.html

[FirefightnRick]

When it was learned Boyd was assigned the case, several people were told not to be surprised if probation was the outcome.

Rick

[UNT90]

When it was learned Boyd was assigned the case, several people were told not to be surprised if probation was the outcome.

Rick

No one familiar with or involved in the Tarrant County Juvenile system was surprised.

Nobody.

Edited December 13, 2013 by UNT90

[UNT90]

I agree with pretty much everything else you said, but I'm pretty sure that if a juvenile is tried as a juvenile, he is automatically released on his 18th birthday. There is no approval necessary by a parole board. That is why you have to try a juvenile as an adult to sentence him to any real time.

This is correct. But all the more reason to certify him as an adult.

And for those that don't know, you are considered an adult as far as criminal responsibility is concerned in the State of Texas at age 17.

The things that have gone in in this court will blow people's minds when they become public, and it looks very likely that this is about to happen.

On the bright side, maybe she walks away early because of all the pressure.

[ChristopherRyanWilkes]

When it was learned Boyd was assigned the case, several people were told not to be surprised if probation was the outcome.

Rick

Rehabilitation through probation is generally what juvenile courts do, which is why this case should have been in adult court.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

If being too rich and spoiled is a valid excuse then surely being poor and uneducated should work as well ....

He should have been locked up. Better yet give the father the choice...... he or the son to serve the sentence since the father is "supposedly" at fault. Either wayhe gets to pay for the "crime". He would be in jail or put his son there.

Edited December 14, 2013 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[Coffee and TV]

Luckily for this kid, he'll have some help taking all of that money off his hands that made him such a bad person.

http://kfor.com/2013/12/16/victims-families-file-multimillion-dollar-lawsuits-against-affluenza-teen/

[oldguystudent]

Luckily for this kid, he'll have some help taking all of that money off his hands that made him such a bad person.

http://kfor.com/2013/12/16/victims-families-file-multimillion-dollar-lawsuits-against-affluenza-teen/

You know the Brown family won judgments in the millions against OJ, right? How much of that have they received?

[UNTFan23]

Luckily for this kid, he'll have some help taking all of that money off his hands that made him such a bad person.

http://kfor.com/2013/12/16/victims-families-file-multimillion-dollar-lawsuits-against-affluenza-teen/

First the family fortune will be spent on defense against the liability lawsuits. If the family loses, the family business will be either sold off or shuttered to help pay for some of the financial awards. Then after that, bankruptcy becomes a real possibility which means the financial award gets reduced to pennies on the dollar.

It'll take years for all these cases to work their way through the court system.

[oldguystudent]

the family business will be either sold off or shuttered to help pay for some of the financial awards.

I highly, highly doubt that. Owning something, having an interest in something, and being the beneficiary of something are entirely different things.

Savvy rich people own nothing that is subject to creditors or litigation.

Edited December 17, 2013 by oldguystudent

[UNTFan23]

I highly, highly doubt that. Owning something, having an interest in something, and being the beneficiary of something are entirely different things.

Savvy rich people own nothing that is subject to creditors or litigation.

But the truck the teenager was driving was said to be a (family) company vehicle. That changes things up a little.

[Coffee and TV]

You know the Brown family won judgments in the millions against OJ, right? How much of that have they received?

I don't know how much they've received, but he did have to sell off a lot of stuff. Where he 'got away' with not paying was by moving to Florida where they couldn't touch his NFL retirement pension.

[FirefightnRick]

But the truck the teenager was driving was said to be a (family) company vehicle. That changes things up a little.

Correct.

There are currently 5 cases filed so far.

By the way, how did you like that classless, white pokadot halter-top thingy that momma wore for the cameras? Considering her and the hubby's criminal background I guess it suited her. Still, with the money those two are supposedly worth one would think they would have dressed more professionally for court day. Then again, it was the defense' intention to give the appearance that the kid was 12 years old and that the family had little money. So who knows?

Rick