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SSP · December 10, 2013

I haven't read all of the posts on here... So I am sure that other Positive Pete's or Penelope's have already posted something similar..... AS HAVE ALL OF THE NEGATIVE POSTERS. SO in the interest of keeping things balanced.......

I know that a lot of you fools are upset about not going up against Michigan and getting our butts kicked in our bowl game. I understand. It would have been good publicity.

IT STILL WILL BE.

There are SOOO MANY new fans. People want something to be excited about. People like an underdog, Cinderella story (Rocky, Frodo Baggins, Obama, Rudy, etc). I can not tell you how many people who have approached ME (when I have not be looking for it) about how amazing this program is doing. EXAMPLE- While we were in Tulsa, our friends who we were staying with in BFE, OK wanted to detour to pick a Christmas present up in Stillwater. As we were at the guys house loading the Ping Pong Table into the back of the truck he noticed our sweatshirts and immeadiately started commenting on how he was rooting for us against Tulsa and spent another 20 minutes explaining to us ( and name dropping our players) how much better he thought that we were than UTSA (which he pulled highlights on AFTER the Tulsa game). He didn't strike me as the social kind either. People are getting excited about North Texas football. NON- Alumni are starting to by their kids $30 NT hoodies. Good things.......

We can't expect to "expect" to go 4- 8 at a beginning of a season, reach a bowl after 8 seasons then have instant respect from major programs. Silly to expect it, too.

UNLV may be JUST what we need. LOCAL publicity in the HOD, GOOD RECRUITS that want to play at some point in their college careers and a team that we CAN DESTROY on ESPN.

I am unclear on what it is that some of you all want. I have family and money invested. SO- I want HUGE things, too. But, I have realistic expectations pending the circumstances.

The IMPORTANT thing to realize is that WE HIT OUR GOALS this year. Bi&^%&^%ing serves no purpose. We are heading in the right direction. And we will continue to. There is NOTHING that suggests otherwise.

SEE YOU ALL AT THE COTTON BOWL! GMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh..... And think about our players who read this forum.... BEFORE you post vomit.

Edited December 10, 2013 by SSP

Got5onIt · December 10, 2013

I don't think UM, Iowa, or any lower rung B10 team would've "kicked" our butts.

SSP · December 10, 2013

Michigan would not have been an ideal match up.... :/ We need to WIN.

The POINT is, that certain teams were not interested in playing us..... AND that is ok and understandable right now.

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Greenrex · December 10, 2013

Yes.

Green P1 · December 10, 2013

I vomit.

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VideoEagle · December 10, 2013

All true. This is going to be interesting.

SSP · December 10, 2013

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Poop on you, P1!!!

Zeke · December 10, 2013

Good Post and I agree. It's time to smile and enjoy , not get upset and gripe.

Cerebus · December 10, 2013

SSP you are missing a few things.

1) We would have hung and had a real chance to beat those kid tier B10 programs, they wouldn't have "kicked our butts."

2) We match up better with some of those B10 teams that we do with UNLV, who reminds me of UTSA, and we know how that went.

3) Lack of respect had nothing to do with a B10 team not coming here, they didn't have enough bowl eligible teams, and other bigger programs like BC lobbied hard to get into the HoD.

None of that means that people aren't ecstatic to be in a bowl game.

filmerj · December 10, 2013

While I have already been in this board saying we should just support the team no matter the opponent. I'm sure those who wished for a different opponent will, come game time, support the team. However, I do get the other side too... Players read the board? Then they should be happy that many think we could have beaten a Michigan. I think the bowl committee may have done us a favor this time around with a team that has many similarities to ours. We should be scared of no one, but respect every opponent. You site UTSA? If they are like UTSA then show them UTSA was a fluke. Cerbus I have no beef with you I understand your point. If we are worried about the opponent and whether or not they will bring fans when the bowl is in our back yard, then then there is no hope. People don't want to come? They'll wish they did. We have to take care of our business. Try to get people to come, if they don't, well so be it. There will be those that do. I wasn't able to go to the NO bowls and I've regretted it ever since. I never thought it would take us ten years to get back... So I'm excited as he'll for this team to get a shot and for me to be able to watch them take it UNLV and show the bowl committees they didn't make a mistake in selecting us.

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Censored by Laurie · December 10, 2013

Edited for length.

Improved things quite a bit.

Green P1 · December 10, 2013

3) Lack of respect had nothing to do with a B10 team not coming here, they didn't have enough bowl eligible teams, and other bigger programs like BC lobbied hard to get into the HoD.

This is what I don't get people not getting.

SSP · December 10, 2013

SSP you are missing a few things.

1) We would have hung and had a real chance to beat those kid tier B10 programs, they wouldn't have "kicked our butts."
2) We match up better with some of those B10 teams that we do with UNLV, who reminds me of UTSA, and we know how that went.
3) Lack of respect had nothing to do with a B10 team not coming here, they didn't have enough bowl eligible teams, and other bigger programs like BC lobbied hard to get into the HoD.

None of that means that people aren't ecstatic to be in a bowl game.

No.... don't get me wrong.... I get it, C. Im just saying that there isn't a d thing we can do about it so we should rejoice in the hand we have been dealt and look forward to this being the BEGINNING OF OUR NEW STORY, not treat it as some fluke that happens every 10 years (ish). And I am sorry.... But I witnessed Michigan in person this year.... We would have competed and lost, IMO. However, I believe in Santa and the magic of all things being possible this time of year.

While I have already been in this board saying we should just support the team no matter the opponent. I'm sure those who wished for a different opponent will, come game time, support the team. However, I do get the other side too... Players read the board? Then they should be happy that many think we could have beaten a Michigan. I think the bowl committee may have done us a favor this time around with a team that has many similarities to ours. We should be scared of no one, but respect every opponent. You site UTSA? If they are like UTSA then show them UTSA was a fluke. Cerbus I have no beef with you I understand your point. If we are worried about the opponent and whether or not they will bring fans when the bowl is in our back yard, then then there is no hope. People don't want to come? They'll wish they did. We have to take care of our business. Try to get people to come, if they don't, well so be it. There will be those that do. I wasn't able to go to the NO bowls and I've regretted it ever since. I never thought it would take us ten years to get back... So I'm excited as he'll for this team to get a shot.

PRECISELY. and YES. A lot of our players read this board. And most of them scratch their heads at the fact that it doesn't matter what they do- most of our loyal fans will have something to pick at.

Have a drink, people.

SSP · December 10, 2013

Improved things quite a bit.

You just can't help but negatively comment on everything I post, stalker.

Censored by Laurie · December 10, 2013

You just can't help but negatively comment on everything I post, stalker.

I didn't respond to you,

foutsrouts · December 10, 2013

SSP you are missing a few things.

1) We would have hung and had a real chance to beat those kid tier B10 programs, they wouldn't have "kicked our butts."

2) We match up better with some of those B10 teams that we do with UNLV, who reminds me of UTSA, and we know how that went.

3) Lack of respect had nothing to do with a B10 team not coming here, they didn't have enough bowl eligible teams, and other bigger programs like BC lobbied hard to get into the HoD.

None of that means that people aren't ecstatic to be in a bowl game.

I agree. A slower plodding team from the Big 10 may very well had been a better matchup for us. So how are we gonna feel if UNLV kicks our butts? A lot worse than a Michigan I suspect, and UNLV has the quick strike offense to make a run at that. I also don't believe that baby steps are mandatory in moving up in the football pecking order of the world.

Side Show Joe · December 10, 2013

For our players that read this board...

I believe in you, and I believe you could have given a BIG 10 or ACC team more then they wanted. Sorry you won't get that chance. Congratulations on a great season. I can't wait to watch y'all fight the Rebels on New Years Day at the HOD. Go Mean Green!!!

Cerebus · December 10, 2013

SSP I am not blaming anyone at NT for us playing UNLV. It's just bad luck.

I also saw Michigan play this year. I saw them have to comeback to beat Akron by 4, I saw them have to score 10 points late in 4th to sneak by uconn, i saw them let 5 win indiana score half a hundred on them. I think we would have given them a hell of a game and had a real chance to beat them and make a huge splash among out alumni.

Having to play UNLV is fine, they will a tough matchup for us. I will be there, I will bring as many people as possible, and I will have fun cheering on the Mean Green.

UNT90 · December 10, 2013

Just because everyone isn't thrilled to be playing UNLV doesn't mean they need to be preached to about proper fandom, for cripes sake!

Some of you need it get the F over it.

SSP · December 10, 2013

SSP I am not blaming anyone at NT for us playing UNLV. It's just bad luck.

I also saw Michigan play this year. I saw them have to comeback to beat Akron by 4, I saw them have to score 10 points late in 4th to sneak by uconn, i saw them let 5 win indiana score half a hundred on them. I think we would have given them a hell of a game and had a real chance to beat them and make a huge splash among out alumni.

Having to play UNLV is fine, they will a tough matchup for us. I will be there, I will bring as many people as possible, and I will have fun cheering on the Mean Green.

Agreed. That is exactly what it was. Bad luck. For San Jose State more than for us.

SSP · December 10, 2013

Just because everyone isn't thrilled to be playing UNLV doesn't mean they need to be preached to about proper fandom, for cripes sake!
Some of you need it get the F over it.

AND SOME OF US need to smile once in awhile.

ESPECIALLY, those of us that have spent half the damn season bitching about how everything about our program sucks. Theres a time for that and as we PROCEED INTO THE BOWL THAT EVERYONE WANTED ISN'T ONE OF THEM.

And I would never question YOUR fandom, 90. I didn't go to an away game without seeing you this year. In my book, your opinion weighs more than most of the people on here that post BS and haven't attended a game all year.

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Cerebus · December 10, 2013

Theres a time for that and as we PROCEED INTO THE BOWL THAT EVERYONE WANTED ISN'T ONE OF THEM.

Actually I wanted the Fiesta, but would have settled for the Liberty.

*Takes a sip from his snifter of fine brandy*

Censored by Laurie · December 10, 2013

Just because everyone isn't thrilled to be playing UNLV doesn't mean they need to be preached to about proper fandom, for cripes sake!
Some of you need it get the F over it.

Is proper fandom saying that Michigan or Iowa would kick our butts?