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JesseMartin Explorer

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I like the suggestion that they drop football

You mean in the same post that suggested they could be an Ivy League school?

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oldguystudent Newbie

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I will say that from the viewpoint of accounting, SMU in Dallas and TCU in Fort Worth have a network that hires their own whereas UNT really doesn't, save one very questionable operation.

On the other hand, where it counts, which means earning your keep after you're hired, UNT students are actually prepared.

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UNTLifer Grand Master

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I will say that from the viewpoint of accounting, SMU in Dallas and TCU in Fort Worth have a network that hires their own whereas UNT really doesn't, save one very questionable operation.

On the other hand, where it counts, which means earning your keep after you're hired, UNT students are actually prepared.

What questionable operation?

MDH Rising Star

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I was. That's why I said Dallas.

Certain programs, probably. Overall I don't buy it. No knock on UT-D though, they've got some solid programs.

meangreener Newbie

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Certain programs, probably. Overall I don't buy it. No knock on UT-D though, they've got some solid programs.

SMU literally is a one trick pony. They have an amazing MBA. The only noteworthy aspect of an otherwise underwhelming school for rich C students.

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MDH Rising Star

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I've worked with many alumnus from both schools and there's no question who's better. To get back on to the original Ponyfans point and something we can all agree on: they're nowhere near Ivy material.

SilverEagle Mentor

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I've worked with many alumnus from both schools and there's no question who's better. To get back on to the original Ponyfans point and something we can all agree on: they're nowhere near Ivy material.

Maybe they could band together with all the other southern private schools that think so much of themselves (and only God knows why) and call themselves the Kudzu league.

greenit Newbie

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I think the private schools are all at risk in this new football driven D1 sports landscape. It is impossible for them to draw the amount of statewide/national following that the leagues are looking for.

I would not be surprised to see them look at dropping down in football at some point and trying to focus on olympic sports. The have poured a shit ton of money down the hole chasing the glory years. They have been priveliged their whole existence. They have no idea what schools like Houston went through. Houston is similar to us, starting with basically nothing and working their way up. They were fortunate to actually make it into the club for a while before getting kicked out. They have no issue trying to work their way back up, but SMU does the only thing they know how, which is to throw money at it. Eventually theyhave to make a business decision.

We just need to keep taking care of our own business. I like where we are currently at, and think there will be more options available within the next 10 years, if we can stay the course.

UNTexas Community Regular

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I think the private schools are all at risk in this new football driven D1 sports landscape. It is impossible for them to draw the amount of statewide/national following that the leagues are looking for.

I would not be surprised to see them look at dropping down in football at some point and trying to focus on olympic sports. The have poured a shit ton of money down the hole chasing the glory years. They have been priveliged their whole existence. They have no idea what schools like Houston went through. Houston is similar to us, starting with basically nothing and working their way up. They were fortunate to actually make it into the club for a while before getting kicked out. They have no issue trying to work their way back up, but SMU does the only thing they know how, which is to throw money at it. Eventually theyhave to make a business decision.

We just need to keep taking care of our own business. I like where we are currently at, and think there will be more options available within the next 10 years, if we can stay the course.

Baylor, Boston College, BYU, USC, Stanford, TCU, Notre Dame, Rice, Miami, Duke, Vanderbilt off of the top my head don't seem to have problems being private schools. SMU has built their program out of a bigger mess than any team ever. So they didn't go to a bowl this year. They did last year. They will survive and give us tough games in the coming years. I personally like us playing them and hopefully beating them often. (I am not on their bandwagon either. They are bummed out and venting and people here are over analyzing their being upset.)
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greenit

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Baylor, Boston College, BYU, USC, Stanford, TCU, Notre Dame, Rice, Miami, Duke, Vanderbilt off of the top my head don't seem to have problems being private schools. SMU has built their program out of a bigger mess than any team ever. So they didn't go to a bowl this year. They did last year. They will survive and give us tough games in the coming years. I personally like us playing them and hopefully beating them often. (I am not on their bandwagon either. They are bummed out and venting and people here are over analyzing their being upset.)

Take every one of thoses schools out of their current conference and put them in a G5 conference and then let's revisit. There will be a few exceptions, but otherwise, it is going to be tough sledding for the private schools that don't have the benefit of a power conference.

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Take every one of thoses schools out of their current conference and put them in a G5 conference and then let's revisit. There will be a few exceptions, but otherwise, it is going to be tough sledding for the private schools that don't have the benefit of a power conference.

Take anyone out of a big 5 conference and life gets tougher. It's a hypothetical that isn't going to happen. The aforementioned schools will continue to flourish. They aren't going anywhere. I just watched one of them down the wealthiest program in college football too.

As for SMU they may never be anywhere close to where they use to be. I'm not sure being private has a ton to do with it. Look how bad we've struggled since we made it back to D1 after being relegated to 1AA. I think it's a better example that proves just how hard it is the claw your way out of a hole. Let's just hope our team isn't a one hit wonder this year.

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