Snaps by other QBs

[forevereagle]

And once again it should be pointed out we are 8-4.

I fail to see how that helps us next year.

[Mean Green 93-98]

I fail to see how that helps us next year.

Usually teams start to "play for next year" once it becomes clear that the season is lost.

[UNT90]

Maybe because the QB he knows will start next year is busy getting a medical redshirt?

[Green P1]

Grassy knoll theory: After seeing how great DW looked against Idaho, Mac realized if he played him anymore he might not be able to get keep him off the field this season.... thus the phantom medical problems. Having learned from the early season slip up he makes sure the only other QB we see for any extended period of time is McNulty. QB controversy averted and the RS Senior keeps the job all season.

[Green Otaku]

Not that it means everything, but Baylor's starter is not a senior. I would had really liked to see more of the other guys, but it's really a moot point now. Well, as long as DT stays healthy between now and the end of the bowl game of course.

Thanks for reminding me! This was one of the subjects I meant to bring up when I made this thread. Of course I am hoping DT (and all of our players) stay healthy but what if we have a situation where he has to sit out at the bowl game? You guys remember what happened to Texas with Colt McCoy in the NCG vs Alabama right?

[Green Otaku]

It could also mean that since Dajon is getting a waiver, and he's gonna be the starter next year, why bother with the other two.

the backups not playing hurts McNulty and Brock more than dajon. Everyone is going to start spring with no seperation. Maybe this is intentional.

Maybe because the QB he knows will start next year is busy getting a medical redshirt?

Grassy knoll theory: After seeing how great DW looked against Idaho, Mac realized if he played him anymore he might not be able to get keep him off the field this season.... thus the phantom medical problems. Having learned from the early season slip up he makes sure the only other QB we see for any extended period of time is McNulty. QB controversy averted and the RS Senior keeps the job all season.

I see a lot of these posts about how DW may be THE ONE . Do I need to dig up the posts about BB when he transferred? People have short memories.

[UNT90]

I see a lot of these posts about how DW may be THE ONE . Do I need to dig up the posts about BB when he transferred? People have short memories.

DW was the second team QB for the Idaho game. He took 2nd team snaps in practice. Saw it from the hill first hand. He had already surpassed BB and Mini Mac as a true freshmen.

Big difference from BB running the scout team.

[Green Otaku]

DW was the second team QB for the Idaho game. He took 2nd team snaps in practice. Saw it from the hill first hand. He had already surpassed BB and Mini Mac as a true freshmen.

Big difference from BB running the scout team.

Saved for future reference. I'll remind you of this post if I see McNulty starting next season. I'll remember just ask untjim1995 and Eastwood Eagle

[C Vo]

OMG! The sky is falling attitude again. I'll need to take a two week break from the board.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

McNulty has one start under his belt - 2011 at Tulsa.

Dajon and Brock were rated higher coming out of high school than McNulty, but...

What I'd really like to see is for McCarney to sign a bona fide JUCO QB to really push everyone and truly separate the men from the boys at QB for 2014 and 2015.

McNulty has had three years here and hasn't won the job. Berglund hasn't won the job at three different schools. So, what do those two really have in the bag? They ain't spring chickens anymore.

Dajon is, obviously, the one with the longest look at it.

I don't see where there's a clear favorite now, and that's why I'd be in favor of throwing a JUCO into the mix. I enjoyed the winning season and would like to see another one in 2014.

[outoftown]

8-4 in his 3rd year.

Going to a bowl game.

I'll trust in Mac and not worry about it.

17-19 in three seasons. That is good considering where UNT was, but there is still plenty of room for improvement. I trust Mac to a certain degree, but I do not trust blindly. And the fact that I am not yet sure wheter to trust him to manage the QB thing well, when no QB he recruited to UNT has done anything substantial yet seems a fair thing to me.

[emmitt01]

McNulty has one start under his belt - 2011 at Tulsa.

Dajon and Brock were rated higher coming out of high school than McNulty, but...

What I'd really like to see is for McCarney to sign a bona fide JUCO QB to really push everyone and truly separate the men from the boys at QB for 2014 and 2015.

McNulty has had three years here and hasn't won the job. Berglund hasn't won the job at three different schools. So, what do those two really have in the bag? They ain't spring chickens anymore.

Dajon is, obviously, the one with the longest look at it.

I don't see where there's a clear favorite now, and that's why I'd be in favor of throwing a JUCO into the mix. I enjoyed the winning season and would like to see another one in 2014.

Yes, if only Mac had some recent history of dealing with a JUCO quarterback.

[UNT90]

Saved for future reference. I'll remind you of this post if I see McNulty starting next season. I'll remember just ask untjim1995 and Eastwood Eagle

If I'm wrong, it will be the very first time...

;-)

[untbowler]

Yes, if only Mac had some recent history of dealing with a JUCO quarterback.

I see what you did there and chuckle

[BillySee58]

Grassy knoll theory: After seeing how great DW looked against Idaho, Mac realized if he played him anymore he might not be able to get keep him off the field this season.... thus the phantom medical problems. Having learned from the early season slip up he makes sure the only other QB we see for any extended period of time is McNulty. QB controversy averted and the RS Senior keeps the job all season.

I've been wondering this too. I also think this may be the reason we never saw Berglund throw a pass. At least with Williams he has the redshirt excuse.

If Berglund ever came out and started scrambling around and completing passes downfield how would he have justified keeping DT as the starter for the year? He's not redshirting, so there would be no excuse. And, like you said, how would he have been able to justify keeping DT as the starter if DW kept coming in and lighting it up?

[BillySee58]

Yes, if only Mac had some recent history of dealing with a JUCO quarterback.

This.

And honestly, good JUCO qbs are hard to come by. Especially since the few truly good ones (like Mettenberger and Cam Newton) go to the big schools before they look at us. Easier to get a good high school qb slipping through the cracks than a good JUCO qb who can come in and compete day 1.

[UNTLifer]

Good Lord, do some of you just look for a reason to complain? This is a ridiculous waste of three pages of a thread. Let's look at some other, much more historically successful, programs for comparison with either senior starting QB's or QB's that are probably leaving school early for the NFL.

Alabama

McCarrron: 207 of 306

Sims: 18 of 29

Total: 335 passes thrown, McCarron 91.3% and Sims 8.7%

Clemson

Boyd: 252 of 373 (missed time due to injury)

Stoudt: 27 of 59

Kelly: 10 of 17

Schuessler: 1 of 2

Total 451 passes thrown, Boyd 82.7%, Stoudt 13.1%, Kelly 3.8%

Fresno State

Carr: 388 of 552

Burrell: 7 of 12

Total: 564 passes thrown, Carr 97.9%, Burrell 2.1%

Georgia

Murray: 225 of 347 (missed time due to injury)

Mason: 46 of 71

Wooten: 1 of 1

Total: 419 passes thrown, Murray 82.8%, Mason 16.9%, Wooten .003%

Louisville

Bridgewater: 245 of 345

Gardner: 8 or 12

Total: 357 passes thrown, Bridgewater 96.6%, Gardner 3.4%

Texas A&M

Manziel: 270 of 391 missed time due to suspension and injury

Joeckel: 22 of 37

Hill: 16 of 22

Kaser: 1 of 1

Total: 451 passes thrown, Manziel 86.7%, Joeckel 8.2%, Hill 4.9%

North Texas

Thompson: 230 of 360

Williams: 5 of 6

McNulty: 5 of 6

Total: 372 passes thrown, Thompson 96.8%, William and McNulty 1.6% each

Looks pretty normal considering DT missed like three plays due to thumb issue against Ball State. Mac's been doing this a lot longer and been much more successful than any of us ever thought about. Let's trust him since he's gotten us this far.

[Green Otaku]

Good Lord, do some of you just look for a reason to complain? This is a ridiculous waste of three pages of a thread. Let's look at some other, much more historically successful, programs for comparison with either senior starting QB's or QB's that are probably leaving school early for the NFL.

Alabama

McCarrron: 207 of 306

Sims: 18 of 29

Total: 335 passes thrown, McCarron 91.3% and Sims 8.7%

Clemson

Boyd: 252 of 373 (missed time due to injury)

Stoudt: 27 of 59

Kelly: 10 of 17

Schuessler: 1 of 2

Total 451 passes thrown, Boyd 82.7%, Stoudt 13.1%, Kelly 3.8%

Fresno State

Carr: 388 of 552

Burrell: 7 of 12

Total: 564 passes thrown, Carr 97.9%, Burrell 2.1%

Georgia

Murray: 225 of 347 (missed time due to injury)

Mason: 46 of 71

Wooten: 1 of 1

Total: 419 passes thrown, Murray 82.8%, Mason 16.9%, Wooten .003%

Louisville

Bridgewater: 245 of 345

Gardner: 8 or 12

Total: 357 passes thrown, Bridgewater 96.6%, Gardner 3.4%

Texas A&M

Manziel: 270 of 391 missed time due to suspension and injury

Joeckel: 22 of 37

Hill: 16 of 22

Kaser: 1 of 1

Total: 451 passes thrown, Manziel 86.7%, Joeckel 8.2%, Hill 4.9%

North Texas

Thompson: 230 of 360

Williams: 5 of 6

McNulty: 5 of 6

Total: 372 passes thrown, Thompson 96.8%, William and McNulty 1.6% each

Looks pretty normal considering DT missed like three plays due to thumb issue against Ball State. Mac's been doing this a lot longer and been much more successful than any of us ever thought about. Let's trust him since he's gotten us this far.

Who is complaining? Can we as fans not make simple observations and ask questions ? No one on here has said this has cost us games or that we aren't happy with the season. Everyone is ecstatic that we are 8-4.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Agree, Lifer. But, you can see behind the thin veil that some people here still don't think that Thompson legitimately won the starting job. Crazy.

Crazier still that a coach with as many years under his belt as McCarney, and in need of a winning season, would risk perhaps his last head coaching gig on a whim called favoritism.

If people here still don't think Thompson is a good quarterback, how in the world do they think the two elder statesmen backups who could never beat him out are going to be any better?

Our best chances going forward are most likely going to be Dajon and any other quarterback signed this year and next not named McNulty or Berglund.

[Censored by Laurie]

Who is complaining?

Have you read the responses to your question?

And those who have a complaint have one for their own selfish reason of wanting to see what the future looks like, rather than simply enjoying, finally, a quality present.

Mac is old school...once the game is out of reach, let's just get the clock to zeroes, shake hands and move on. In the grand scheme, I see very little developmental benefit for DW, BB or lil Mac in getting in a couple of late tosses against tired and disinterested defenses. The best defense any of them are going to see will be our own in the Spring. Let's worry about and/or enjoy what should be a good QB battle come April.

[UNT90]

Agree, Lifer. But, you can see behind the thin veil that some people here still don't think that Thompson legitimately won the starting job. Crazy.

Crazier still that a coach with as many years under his belt as McCarney, and in need of a winning season, would risk perhaps his last head coaching gig on a whim called favoritism.

If people here still don't think Thompson is a good quarterback, how in the world do they think the two elder statesmen backups who could never beat him out are going to be any better?

Our best chances going forward are most likely going to be Dajon and any other quarterback signed this year and next not named McNulty or Berglund.

This x 1000.

The QB job was wide open this Spring and even Fall. I think Mac may have contemplated moving DW into the starting role if DT had huge early struggles. He didn't (and don't bring up Ohio. That was completely Mac's fault for insisting on running on every 1st down in the first half).

Mac saw he could win with DT and the offense could give him what he thought he needed (and it did in every conference game except 2, one of which was Mac's fault) so he stuck with the horse that brung 'em.

Mac is an old school coach. We will never be aggressive offensively, but if he can put a defense on the field every year like the one that played this year, that's fine.

DW will win the starting job. We will throw sparingly, and hopefully win a lot.

[PlummMeanGreen]

We've all seen the day when the forward pass at North Texas could almost be categorized as a trick play. Not my favorite kind of college football because I love the passing game.

I loved to watch Coach Don "Air" Coryell-coached football teams when he coached the San Diego Chargers in the old AFL turned AFC then later when he was with the Cardinals.

Coach Fry was widely known here in the Southwest as one of the masters of what he called exotic plays which most the time involved the passing game BUT.................................

....................I can't recall a time when I especially loved the running game at North Texas when we had Patrick Cobbs and Super Jamario Thomas running loose with both being the NCAA National Rushing leaders 2 years in a row, respectively. I still do not completely understand what happened to Super Jamario in the UNT weight room which seemed to all but erase any NFL-bound speed merchant talents most felt he had when he was on top his game, though. (At this point, really not sure I want to know, but I recall how sad we all were for such a good kid--now a grown man, of course).

If we have that kind of running attack with RB's who are a half step to a step faster than most defenses again along with the occasional pass to keep em' honest on defense that can be as fun to watch as an all out Don "Air" Coryell kind of passing attack. Never thought I'd ever be able to say that but the kind of running game we had with Cobbs and Thomas really did it for a bunch of us back in that day. I took a fair weather UNT alum friend out here in Parker County to some of Super Jamario's games at old Fouts and he was simply amazed by what that kid could do back then.

GMG!

Edited December 6, 2013 by PlummMeanGreen