Rice Fan thinks ECU and Marshall would crush UNT

Harry · November 18, 2013

"(Rant from Rice fan)...UNT did not snap the ball past 40-yd line the entire game but beat Rice and Rice dominated stat sheet. Against common opponents..Rice has won by more margin. But all that matters is UNT won... I think UNT would lose 8 out of 10 times to Rice on neutral field but that is an academic/esoteric debate and irrelevant. We showed-up last night against La Tech and plenty of other times this season but did not show-up when it mattered in Denton. Marshall and ECU fans should be happy...they both will crush UNT."

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greenminer · November 18, 2013

ECU is a seasoned, CUSA title team. A championship match would not be their first go-round and would demand the utmost respect from our players and staff.

The Fake Lonnie Finch · November 18, 2013

"The only variable now is time." - Howard Schnellenberger

meangreendork · November 18, 2013

The pro-Marshall/ECU fans forget that scoring can still happen on defense and on special teams. Sure, you can tie the UNT offense and match them score-for-score, but that means nothing when the UNT defense and special teams have another 14 points on the board.

That said, I think Marshall is a paper tiger. Nice stats offensively, but most of those stats were earned against weak, weak teams. And while they score well, their defense was horrific against MTSU. The same MTSU our team took apart on offense and especially on defense. ECU is another story - they look like the most legitimate team that CUSA-East has. No one else in that division comes close. ECU would definitely give our team a run for their money and probably win.

Oh, and the guy who thought Rice was the better team? That "the better team didn't win" argument would work in a game won or lost by 3-7 points. That would work when the officials gave the winning team a possession they didn't earn or called a penalty a that negatived a big play. It doesn't work with a score gap as big as the Rice/UNT game, and it doesn't work when the officials gift the losing team an additional 4 opportunities to score on the goal line and the losing team can't make it happen.

Edited November 18, 2013 by meangreendork

BillySee58 · November 18, 2013

Our offense needs to step up or they may have a point. But I don't think either blow us out. Our defense is too good.

filmerj · November 18, 2013

I don't know about "crush." However, if we had to play a championship game at their house it would be a tough task. Could they win, of course, but in most certainly won"t be easy.

Edited November 18, 2013 by filmerj

hickoryhouse · November 18, 2013

"(Rant from Rice fan)...UNT did not snap the ball past 40-yd line the entire game but beat Rice and Rice dominated stat sheet. Against common opponents..Rice has won by more margin. But all that matters is UNT won... I think UNT would lose 8 out of 10 times to Rice on neutral field but that is an academic/esoteric debate and irrelevant. We showed-up last night against La Tech and plenty of other times this season but did not show-up when it mattered in Denton. Marshall and ECU fans should be happy...they both will crush UNT."
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Sour Grapes???

MeanGreenTexan · November 18, 2013

"(Rant from Rice fan)...UNT did not snap the ball past 40-yd line the entire game but beat Rice and Rice dominated stat sheet. Against common opponents..Rice has won by more margin. But all that matters is UNT won... I think UNT would lose 8 out of 10 times to Rice on neutral field but that is an academic/esoteric debate and irrelevant. We showed-up last night against La Tech and plenty of other times this season but did not show-up when it mattered in Denton. Marshall and ECU fans should be happy...they both will crush UNT."
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Sounds like he's already forgotten about the defense. I bet McHargue and co. haven't.

Rudy · November 18, 2013

Whatever helps him sleep at night.

Green Mean · November 18, 2013

Sounds like he's got a severe case of hemorrhoids.

meangreener · November 18, 2013

If Rice got crushed by us then ECU would curbstomp them, right? Just trying to be logical like Rice students.

wardly · November 18, 2013

I don't know how Tulane put up 36 points on E.C.U., or Old Dominion 38 points, but E.C.U. is still probably best in C.U.S.A. Regarding Marshall, their biggest win YTD is a one point victory over FAU coupled with a 2 point loss at MTSU. While is it's doubtful that The Heard can stay on the field with the Pirates, stranger things have happened.I think we could take care of Marshall,ECU is another matter. I just hope we don't overlook UTSA this Saturday.Their 5 losses are against very good teams ;Houston,Rice, Marshall,.Arizona,& Oklahoma. St.,

Wag Tag · November 18, 2013

My biggest concern would be Quarterback play. DT would have to have a a good error free game.

Eagle1855 · November 18, 2013

He's not wrong. Our offense is the only thing standing between us an historic season. Imagine if we'd been able to score points in Georgia? What would that game have looked like? Sure we wouldn't have lost to Tulane nor Ohio.

Whether or not our defense can carry the rest of the way and beat an ECU or Marshall remains to be seen. "Crush" is probably a bit of an overstatement, however.

Edited November 18, 2013 by Eagle1855

BillySee58 · November 18, 2013

My biggest concern would be Quarterback play. DT would have to have a a good error free game.

I think he'd have to do a little more than just be error free. He needs to make big plays if we are going to get an upset, i.e. at ECU or against an SEC team on the road.

meangreener · November 18, 2013

My biggest concern would be Quarterback play. DT would have to have a a good error free game.

We need Ball State Derek to show up from here out.

Mean Green 93-98 · November 18, 2013

He's not wrong. . . . "Crush" is probably a bit of an overstatement, however.

Which is why I would say he is wrong. It would be a close game against either opponent, and we might very well be favored against Marshall.

Eagle1855 · November 18, 2013

Which is why I would say he is wrong. It would be a close game against either opponent, and we might very well be favored against Marshall.

Sorry I shouldn't have left so much to interpretation. "He's not wrong about our shortcomings in the Rice game."

casual fan · November 18, 2013

"(Rant from Rice fan)...UNT did not snap the ball past 40-yd line the entire game but beat Rice and Rice dominated stat sheet. Against common opponents..Rice has won by more margin. But all that matters is UNT won... I think UNT would lose 8 out of 10 times to Rice on neutral field but that is an academic/esoteric debate and irrelevant. We showed-up last night against La Tech and plenty of other times this season but did not show-up when it mattered in Denton. Marshall and ECU fans should be happy...they both will crush UNT."
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If Rice played UNT 10 times in a row on a nuetral field, by the 10th game Rice would be starting an unknown walk-on at QB.

IslandEagle · November 18, 2013

RICE IS GREEN WITH ENVY

UNTexas · November 18, 2013

Sore loser. What's this guy's point? They'd do better? We beat them.

I will say other than that one guy everyone was rather complimentary of the football team.

Edited November 18, 2013 by UNTexas

Green P1 · November 18, 2013

Sounds like someone needs to call the Whambulance.

foutsrouts · November 18, 2013

"(Rant from Rice fan)...UNT did not snap the ball past 40-yd line the entire game but beat Rice and Rice dominated stat sheet. Against common opponents..Rice has won by more margin. But all that matters is UNT won... I think UNT would lose 8 out of 10 times to Rice on neutral field but that is an academic/esoteric debate and irrelevant. We showed-up last night against La Tech and plenty of other times this season but did not show-up when it mattered in Denton. Marshall and ECU fans should be happy...they both will crush UNT."
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Dominated the stat sheet? BS. They had 102 more total yards than we did, and if you add in kick/punt returns, they gained us by a mere 42 yards. If we had not sat on the lead and played ultra-conservative football, we likely would had out gained them in all categories. They need to rethink the definition of the word "dominated."