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untjim1995 Grand Master

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This. Sumlin is too hot a commodity to stay in CS for another few seasons. USC, NFL, maybe even Bama if Saban goes to UT. And Manziel and Mike Evans are all A&M has right now. They are stringing together some good recruiting classes but that doesn't mean much till you see if on the field.

If Sumlin leaves, it will be for the NFL. He isn't going to USC--they can't pay him more, the taxes in that state are horrible, and they have fans that think they should win the national championship every year, no matter what. Aggie fans are probably the least demanding fans in the country. All that want you to do is keep football competitive enough to allow them to gather together for their yell practices. Its always been that way down there. A coach like Sumlin has it made in College Station. Great fanbase, great facilities, great recruits, great conference, huge money, etc...

Nick Saban isn't going anywhere...his agent is busy making him even more millions to be the head coach at Alabama by linking him to the job in Austin. First of all, Saban ain't puttin up with the LHN watching practice everyday and then broadcasting games to literally tens of people across the state. He has it made at Alabama with an AD and administration that adore him and recognize he brings in hundreds of millions of dollars to the university because of his successful football team. They won't lose him.

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Eagle1855 Newbie

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If Sumlin leaves, it will be for the NFL. He isn't going to USC--they can't pay him more, the taxes in that state are horrible, and they have fans that think they should win the national championship every year, no matter what. Aggie fans are probably the least demanding fans in the country. All that want you to do is keep football competitive enough to allow them to gather together for their yell practices. Its always been that way down there. A coach like Sumlin has it made in College Station. Great fanbase, great facilities, great recruits, great conference, huge money, etc...

Nick Saban isn't going anywhere...his agent is busy making him even more millions to be the head coach at Alabama by linking him to the job in Austin. First of all, Saban ain't puttin up with the LHN watching practice everyday and then broadcasting games to literally tens of people across the state. He has it made at Alabama with an AD and administration that adore him and recognize he brings in hundreds of millions of dollars to the university because of his successful football team. They won't lose him.

I'm happy your Aggies are doing well, truly. I have a lot of good friends who are great Aggies. Even been to a couple games over the past few years.

I'm just telling you the facts related to Texas. It doesn't really matter what you or I say about any of this or our feelings on the subject. Saban has shown interest in the Texas coaching job. Whether or not it amounts to anything more than that is purely conjecture at this point, since Texas currently has a head coach (even though it will likely not have one in the not-too-distant future).

It's also little more than fantasy to think that a program like Texas is just going to disappear into the winds of irrelevancy because the Aggies had a pair of good two-loss seasons. But I will agree with you on one of your previous points: there's no reason both programs can't be hugely successful at the same time and what a fun thing that would be for the State of Texas.

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Eagle1855 Newbie

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I wished we could be an afterthought in the SEC and spend $450 Million on Apogee getting there.

Ditto that. Hell, at this point, I'd settle for being called a Big XII afterthought just four years after playing for National Title.

untjim1995 Grand Master

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I'm happy your Aggies are doing well, truly. I have a lot of good friends who are great Aggies. Even been to a couple games over the past few years.

I'm just telling you the facts related to Texas. It doesn't really matter what you or I say about any of this or our feelings on the subject. Saban has shown interest in the Texas coaching job. Whether or not it amounts to anything more than that is purely conjecture at this point, since Texas currently has a head coach (even though it will likely not have one in the not-too-distant future).

It's also little more than fantasy to think that a program like Texas is just going to disappear into the winds of irrelevancy because the Aggies had a pair of good two-loss seasons. But I will agree with you on one of your previous points: there's no reason both programs can't be hugely successful at the same time and what a fun thing that would be for the State of Texas.

I'll make this clear, I hope. I could care less about A&M, just like I can care less about UT, Tech, Baylor, UH, SMU, Rice, UTEP, UTSA, Texas State, etc... Because of that, i just call it the way I see it.

Texas will never disappear--sorry if that was insinuated by me earlier, but they are far too rich and too big to ever even remotely hide, much less disappear. I feel like they do accomplish very little with all the resources and advantages they have, though. But so does A&M, for that matter. That said, I just think Sumlin has a great gig, one that will be better than jumping to South Central LA and all the mess that goes along with that USC job right now. The scholarship cuts USC had to take were huge and still have a few years to go, yet USC fans, like Texas fans, think they should win the national championship most years, even if they have Lane Douchebag Kiffin as their coach. Only thing about that is that USC has won exactly 2 national championships (2003,2004) in the last 40 years, one of which was shared with LSU, while Texas has also won one in the last 40 years--against USC in 2005, before the SEC ran wild over the rest of the country. I just think that SEC card is too much to overcome for Texas when recruiting against an A&M team with a great coach who is also winning. Maybe that turns back quickly, especially if Sumlin leaves to the NFL, which is where I think he'll end up. But, Texas is already seeing recruits flock to the only SEC team in Texas right now. They are running circles around everyone because of it. With Texas having one game a year that interest anyone nationally now (vs OU), I think that is going to be tough to compete against A&M on that. Especially when that OU program is being hurt more by the Aggies ascension to the SEC than anyone else in the country, Texas' one huge rival that is nationally respected could very well slip back into mediocrity. Meanwhile, because of the SEC interest and success in Collie World, A&M raised around $750 million, IIRC, just last year, which dwarfed the Big XII schools revenue raised, even Texas. Again, maybe that just stops as soon as Sumlin, Manziel, and Mike Evans leave. But I doubt it...

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Eagle1855 Newbie

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I'll make this clear, I hope. I could care less about A&M, just like I can care less about UT, Tech, Baylor, UH, SMU, Rice, UTEP, UTSA, Texas State, etc... Because of that, i just call it the way I see it.

Same here. Good thoughts, appreciate the discussion.

And my apologies if I insinuated otherwise!

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So the Arizona St AD is going to UT.

Too bad June Jones is committed to his Dallas ministry or he could be in the running for the UT job.

#itsallaboutthechildren

June Jones was a god in Hawaii. He didn't need to make two million a year. His money was no good there. But he had to get greedy. I really used to like that guy. Now I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.

untjim1995 Grand Master

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Interesting talk on the Aggies and Longhorns on The Ticket right now...making a big deal about the Aggies SEC advantage on recruiting in state talent, which is why they are surmising that Texas is no interested in playing A&M and why A&M has done a nice 180 on playing Texas anytime, anywhere, as they espoused during the split.

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If Sumlin leaves, it will be for the NFL. He isn't going to USC--they can't pay him more, the taxes in that state are horrible, and they have fans that think they should win the national championship every year, no matter what. Aggie fans are probably the least demanding fans in the country. All that want you to do is keep football competitive enough to allow them to gather together for their yell practices. Its always been that way down there. A coach like Sumlin has it made in College Station. Great fanbase, great facilities, great recruits, great conference, huge money, etc...

Nick Saban isn't going anywhere...his agent is busy making him even more millions to be the head coach at Alabama by linking him to the job in Austin. First of all, Saban ain't puttin up with the LHN watching practice everyday and then broadcasting games to literally tens of people across the state. He has it made at Alabama with an AD and administration that adore him and recognize he brings in hundreds of millions of dollars to the university because of his successful football team. They won't lose him.

I'm not totally disagreeing with you but USC is one of the most storied CFB programs in history. They'll be able to give Sumlin a very nice payday and that in itself should at least give Sumlin something to think about very very hard. If USC made him a big boy offer it wouldn't surprise me to see him bolt College Station.

Actually if I am USC I'm considering going after Sumlin but more so than him I'd go all in for Art Briles. I can't see Briles staying in Waco very much longer unless he's one of those exceptions like a Beamer or Snyder.

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June Jones was a god in Hawaii. He didn't need to make two million a year. His money was no good there. But he had to get greedy. I really used to like that guy. Now I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.

What if he wasn't on fire, would you piss on him then?

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June Jones was a god in Hawaii. He didn't need to make two million a year. His money was no good there. But he had to get greedy. I really used to like that guy. Now I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire.

A lot of what I read wasn't only about money. He had issue with commitment from the higher ups at UH in terms of facilities etc. That's why he made the move to SMU. Sure he got a nice pay raise with the move but he also saw a chance to be backed up by alumni with a lot of commitment from their alumni with very very deep pockets. Considering where SMU had been he's done a great job but considering what I think a lot of the expectations were from the SMU boosters, I'd say it hasn't really fit the billing just yet.

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