Welp....

cdizzle86 · September 24, 2013

http://www.tmz.com/2013/09/24/dallas-cowboys-lawsuit-football-camp-drowned-miles-austin-anthony-spencer-brandon-carr/

SilverEagle · September 24, 2013

They should have read this article that I posted early in the summer.......

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/family/2013/06/rescuing_drowning_children_how_to_know_when_someone_is_in_trouble_in_the.html

Green P1 · September 24, 2013

So so stupid.

Travis · September 24, 2013

So did I read this right that they claimed that the staff should have hired BETTER life guards?

Meaning that they DID have lifeguards... that did save his life?

money money money. MONEY!

oldguystudent · September 24, 2013

Mmmmm....delicious tort. Good luck with that.

UNTFan23 · September 24, 2013

Disfigurement? From a near drowning?

oldguystudent · September 24, 2013

Disfigurement? From a near drowning?

The mother broke a nail dialing 911.

SilverEagle · September 24, 2013

The mother broke a nail dialing 911.

:goodjob:

The Fake Lonnie Finch · September 24, 2013

This is why insuring celebrities is difficult. Few companies will deal with athletes, recording artists, politicians, etc. because they are regularly targeted for lawsuits such as these.

When I began my insurance career back in the mid-90s, we insured a former Rolling Stone piano player named Billy Preston. We also insured at least one of Nate Dogg's houses. Neither turned out well.

Preston did himself in when he and his manager began torching houses. Our claims department pieced together bits of information from prior claims to bust the arson ring. (Back in the 80s and 90s, kids, information wasn't instantaneous...so, fraud was easier to perpetrate for longer periods of time...you had to peice it together without "google" and networks). We got a hold of claims files from two other carriers and noticed the same stuff claimed every time - expensive pianos and recording equipment.

We paid some ALE up front so they wouldn't be suspicious about our investigation. They cooperated with the claim right down the line, claiming piece by piece exactly what had been claimed in four or five prior theft and fire claims. It was amazing. We just set the trap and let them walk into it. Fire investigators did the rest.

By the time we turned the evidence over prosecutors, several prior insurers jumped in as well to try to get some of their money back. Good luck. Dude was already in prison on a drug charge.

Nate Dogg was sued because early one morning following a soiree at his house, one of his "posse" (back in the 90s, youngsters, rappers has "posses") dragged a young lady down the stairs by her hair. Coordinating the investigation proved to be somewhat difficult as many of the "posse" were in and out of various jails and prisons, and, therefore, not readily available to contribute to the investigation.

As far the near drowning, it works like this:
(1) Your a known name,
(2) You allow your name to be used for a camp (even if you show up for just a few minutes...if at all),
(3) You will be named by a plaintiffs' attorney if anything goes awry.

Edited September 24, 2013 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

SilverEagle · September 24, 2013

This is why insuring celebrities is difficult. Few companies will deal with athletes, recording artists, politicians, etc. because they are regularly targeted for lawsuits such as these.

When I began my insurance career back in the mid-90s, we insured a former Rolling Stone piano player named Billy Preston. We also insured at least one of Nate Dogg's houses. Neither turned out well.

Preston did himself in when he and his manager began torching houses. Our claims department pieced together bits of information from prior claims to bust the arson ring. (Back in the 80s and 90s, kids, information wasn't instantateous...so, fraud was easier to perpetrate for longer periods of time...you had to peice it together without "google" and networks). We got a hold of claims files from two other carriers and noticed the same stuff claimed every time - expensive pianos and recording equipment.

We paid some ALE up front so they wouldn't be suspicious about our investigation. They cooperated with the claim right down the line, claiming piece by piece exactly what had been claimed in four or five prior theft and fire claims. It was amazing. We just set the trap and let them walk into it. Fire investigators did the rest.
By the time we turned the evidence over prosecutors, several prior insurers jumped in as well to try to get some of their money back. Good luck. Dude was already in prison on a drug charge.
Nate Dogg was sued because early one morning following a soiree at his house, one of his "posse" (back in the 90s, youngsters, rappers has "posses") dragged a young lady down the stairs by her hair. Coordinating the investigation proved to be somewhat difficult as many of the "posse" were in and out of various jails and prisons, and, therefore, not readily available to contribute to the investigation.
As far the near drowning, it works like this:
(1) Your a known name,
(2) You allow your name to be used for a camp (even if you show up for just a few minutes...if at all),
(3) You will be named by a plaintiffs' attorney if anything goes awry.

I heard decades ago that backyard swimming pools were called (by either the legal or insurance profession)" attractive nuisances". I've come to feel that this label also applies even better to celebrities and professional sports figures.

The Fake Lonnie Finch · September 24, 2013

I heard decades ago that backyard swimming pools were called (by either the legal or insurance profession)" attractive nuisances". I've come to feel that this label also applies even better to celebrities and professional sports figures.

Many things are considered attractive nuisances, swimming pools among them. But, really, it can be anything that attracts the interest of a child. These days, home insurers are asking about trampolines as well.

But, just name anything you would have seen on someone else's property as a child and wanted to play with - tire wings, crap laying around in the yard (wood, bricks), anything being worked on (holes in the ground, ditches for sprinkler systems, sidewalks/driveway repairs), tools left out, etc. Anything a kid would grab and possibly hurt themsleves with is an attractive nuisance.

GMoney · September 24, 2013

This is why insuring celebrities is difficult. Few companies will deal with athletes, recording artists, politicians, etc. because they are regularly targeted for lawsuits such as these.

When I began my insurance career back in the mid-90s, we insured a former Rolling Stone piano player named Billy Preston. We also insured at least one of Nate Dogg's houses. Neither turned out well.

Preston did himself in when he and his manager began torching houses. Our claims department pieced together bits of information from prior claims to bust the arson ring. (Back in the 80s and 90s, kids, information wasn't instantaneous...so, fraud was easier to perpetrate for longer periods of time...you had to peice it together without "google" and networks). We got a hold of claims files from two other carriers and noticed the same stuff claimed every time - expensive pianos and recording equipment.

We paid some ALE up front so they wouldn't be suspicious about our investigation. They cooperated with the claim right down the line, claiming piece by piece exactly what had been claimed in four or five prior theft and fire claims. It was amazing. We just set the trap and let them walk into it. Fire investigators did the rest.
By the time we turned the evidence over prosecutors, several prior insurers jumped in as well to try to get some of their money back. Good luck. Dude was already in prison on a drug charge.
Nate Dogg was sued because early one morning following a soiree at his house, one of his "posse" (back in the 90s, youngsters, rappers has "posses") dragged a young lady down the stairs by her hair. Coordinating the investigation proved to be somewhat difficult as many of the "posse" were in and out of various jails and prisons, and, therefore, not readily available to contribute to the investigation.
As far the near drowning, it works like this:
(1) Your a known name,
(2) You allow your name to be used for a camp (even if you show up for just a few minutes...if at all),
(3) You will be named by a plaintiffs' attorney if anything goes awry.

Billy Preston - one of the greatest afros in the history of afros. Look up his 70's videos on Youtube. Classic!

Stix · September 24, 2013

Preston did himself in when he and his manager began torching houses.

thus the title "Nothing From Nothing"?

Here's the pic from the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_preston:

Born in Houston - I didn't know that.

SSP · September 24, 2013

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

outoftown · September 24, 2013

only in america

Eastwood Eagle · September 24, 2013

If you negligently hire lifeguards who are not qualified, and give them the duty to watch kids, you should expect a suit if someone gets injured as a cause of their being no qualified lifeguards.

This is no different than a trucking company hiring someone without a licenses or a hospital hiring a physician without a medical degree. There is a duty to as an employer not to negligently hire people who can not have the ability to perform.

Also, if the lifeguards were negligent, the three players could be vicariously liable for their actions, since they hired them.

Edited September 24, 2013 by Eastwood Eagle

Green P1 · September 24, 2013

Maybe I missed it. Were they hired by the camp or UNT staffed?

Eastwood Eagle · September 24, 2013

Sounds like the camp was just held at UNT, but the players were the one who set up, including hiring staff.

Rudy · September 25, 2013

claiming it's their fault James nearly drowned during a football camp held at the University of North Texas, and bearing Spencer's name

Well crap, you know we're going to get drug down in this.

The ONE time they couldn't call us North Texas State.

MeanGreenTexan · September 25, 2013

If you negligently hire lifeguards who are not qualified, and give them the duty to watch kids, you should expect a suit if someone gets injured as a cause of their being no qualified lifeguards.

This is no different than a trucking company hiring someone without a licenses or a hospital hiring a physician without a medical degree. There is a duty to as an employer not to negligently hire people who can not have the ability to perform.

Also, if the lifeguards were negligent, the three players could be vicariously liable for their actions, since they hired them.

Yay! You're a lawyer now.