DT climbs the charts

[eulessismore]

I got to admit; I'm surprised at how much I enjoy watching Derek Thompson play this year. One thing about him, Orr, and Chancellor though, I never get the sense they're thinking about stats.

[JesseMartin]

I half-agree. There have been a few times I REALLY didn't like watching Derek play, but the rest of the time has been pretty good. I saw a few dropped catches today that weren't his fault. But I'd rather have a few more of those per game than the pick-6's that lost the Tulane and Ohio games. I still think he's won more for us than he's lost, and when he's on, he's pretty darn good. I hope he has his best games of the year against Rice and Tulsa. We're going to need it.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Among C-USA Starting QBs:

QB Rating

1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 152.3

2. Derek Thompson, North Texas: 137.0

Attempts

1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 306

2. Eric Soza, UTSA: 242

3. Derek Thompson: 224

Completions

1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 228

2. Derek Thompson, North Texas: 152

Completion Percentage

1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 74.5%

2. Derek Thompson, North Texas: 67.9%

Yards

1. Shane Carden, East Carolina: 2,325

2. Derek Thompson, North Texas: 1,680

If this trend keeps up, the C-USA Championship Game will feature to two best quarterbacks in the conference.

[Mean Green 93-98]

Had Dodge not burned DT's redshirt for a single series 4 years ago we'd have him back next season. Assuming he kept the starting job, & I think he would, think about his numbers.

Wrong. He took a medical redshirt the following year, making the burned redshirt against A-State a moot point. This would be his last year either way.

[UNT90]

Wrong. He took a medical redshirt the following year, making the burned redshirt against A-State a moot point. This would be his last year either way.

Brings up another interesting question:

Is a player ineligible for a medical waiver if the injury occurs before said player had taken a redshirt year? Taft would seem to be the case, or else DT would be eligible for a medical hardship waiver.

[Mean Green 93-98]

Brings up another interesting question:

Is a player ineligible for a medical waiver if the injury occurs before said player had taken a redshirt year? Taft would seem to be the case, or else DT would be eligible for a medical hardship waiver.

A medical hardship waiver is the same as a medical redshirt. The first term is the official terminology, the second is just slang. And yes, DT took one in 2010. That is why he has been able to play for UNT in 5 different seasons.

But you cannot typically take a redshirt one season and a medical hardship waiver in another.

Edited October 24, 2013 by Mean Green 93-98

[JesseMartin]

A medical hardship waiver is the same as a medical redshirt. The first term is the official terminology, the second is just slang. And yes, DT took one in 2010. That is why he has been able to play for UNT in 5 different seasons.

But you cannot typically take a redshirt one season and a medical hardship waiver in another.

Didn't one of the UH QBs (Keenum?) get both? Isn't that why UNT90 called him "Dr. Keenum"?

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Among NT QBs at the Division I-A/FBS level, Thompson is now:

Passing Attempts
1. Steve Ramsey: 1,015
2. Derek Thompson: 913 (needs 25.6 attempts per game to pass Ramsey)

Passes Completed

1. Derek Thompson: 554

2. Giovanni Vizza: 532

On a 3rd and 5 from the Louisiana Tech 38, Derek Thompson completed a 35 yard pass to Darnell Smith to become UNT's all-time leader in completed passes among I-A/FBS-level quarterbacks.


Passing Efficiency
1. Scott Hall: 132.26

2. Riley Dodge: 125.71
3. Derek Thompson: 125.4

Touchdown Passes
1. Steve Ramsey: 69
2. Scott Hall: 50
3. Derek Thompson: 37 (needs 3.3 to pass Hall at #2)

Passing Yards
1. Steve Ramsey: 7,076
2. Derek Thompson: 6,531 (needs 136.3 per game to pass Ramsey)

Completion Percentage

1. Riley Dodge: 64.7%

2. Jordan Case: 61.6%
3. Giovanni Vizza: 60.7%

3. Derek Thompson: 60.7% (now tied with Vizza; could still catch up to Case)

Career 200 Yard Passing Games
1. Steve Ramsey: 20
2. Derek Thompson: 18 (has a outside shot at getting past Ramsey)

Career 300 Yard Passing Games

1. Derek Thompson: 7

2. Steve Ramsey: 6

During the 3rd Quarter, on a 3rd and 10 from the Southern Miss 39, Derek Thompson completed a 14 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time leader in 300 yard passing games among Divison I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

Career Total Offense (Passing + Rushing)

1. Derek Thompson: 6,786

2. Steve Ramsey: 6,568

During the 1st Quarter, on a 3rd and 8 from the Southern Miss 44, Derek Thompson completed a 15 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time total offense leader among Division I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

All of Derek Thompson's record setting plays this season have come on 3rd down with 5 or more yards to go.

[JesseMartin]

I'd say he has more than just an outside shot of getting past Ramsey in 200-yard games. 3 more will make him the leader; unless something bizarre happens, we will likely have a bowl game and there's still a chance at a championship game, so he will probably have at least 5 games left to get 3 200-yarders.

[KRAM1]

Good stuff you are doing on all these "chasing" threads. Really enjoy seeing the updates...appreciate the work you do on these...all of them. Good stuff!

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

There were not enough people who appreciated what Derek has done here. He really is a good player and, for sure, the type of kid you want in your program.

When we signed him, I openly scoffed at the idea of signing a kid out of Glen Rose with only one other offer, and that from a lower division. But, look, he's made a believer out of me.

[Christopher Walker]

There were not enough people who appreciated what Derek has done here. He really is a good player and, for sure, the type of kid you want in your program.

When we signed him, I openly scoffed at the idea of signing a kid out of Glen Rose with only one other offer, and that from a lower division. But, look, he's made a believer out of me.

And you could certainly count me among the former nay-sayers. The dude has just plain shown up and succeeded.

[LongJim]

You should include their records as starters for perspective. Stats don't mean shit.

Yeah and make sure you include Dunbar's record as a starter, too. Dude was waayy overrated.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Yeah and make sure you include Dunbar's record as a starter, too. Dude was waayy overrated.

And, Zach Orr as he chases the tackle record, right?

Crazy how DT is so polarizing to some. I long ago admitted I was wrong about him. Don't understand why others can't.

Derek didn't chose the team around him or the circumstances. Everything he earns and achieves is well deserved because of those of us who didn't believe in him for so long. He's earned the right to have his achievements celebrated.

I see football for what it is: a team game. Derek is one of 26 starters comprising the offense and defense and special teams players (kicker, punter, holder, deep snapper included here). Coach McCarney will be the first to tell you that Derek didn't always have I-A/FBS-level talent around him.

But, you know what, Derek probably wouldn't. The kid never complained, pouted, threw twitter tantrums, transferred, or quit. Many kids in his situation do.

I think you cut this kid and his blood is Mean Green; and, likely Meaner and Greener than most of us. I'm sorry I ever doubted this good, hard-working kid.

Edited October 27, 2013 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

[UNT90]

A medical hardship waiver is the same as a medical redshirt. The first term is the official terminology, the second is just slang. And yes, DT took one in 2010. That is why he has been able to play for UNT in 5 different seasons.

But you cannot typically take a redshirt one season and a medical hardship waiver in another.

Brain fart on my part. Of course he played in the season that he had the redshirt/waiver, hence it HAS to be a medical waiver because he played.

Duh.

[SilverEagle]

There were not enough people who appreciated what Derek has done here. He really is a good player and, for sure, the type of kid you want in your program.

When we signed him, I openly scoffed at the idea of signing a kid out of Glen Rose with only one other offer, and that from a lower division. But, look, he's made a believer out of me.

I have been one of his most consistent critics, but Derek has been a very pleasant surprise to me this year. He has shown lots of grit and determination. And he has not gotten flustered when he makes the inevitable turnover mistakes. I still would not have him lead my all star North Texas team, but he has my respect for making noticeable changes in his game.

And BTW. Please keep in mind that Steve Ramsey's records were accumulated over three years. In his day you were not allowed to play as a freshman. Back then there was no such thing as a redshirt freshman.....they called them sophomores.

All things considered, Giovanni Vizza's stats are much more impressive than just about any NT QB.

Edited October 27, 2013 by SilverEagle

[UNT90]

Didn't one of the UH QBs (Keenum?) get both? Isn't that why UNT90 called him "Dr. Keenum"?

Yes. Keenum's injury came in his senior season, after he had already taken his regular redshirt. I guess the question is could you get a 6 year if the injury occurs before your actual redshirt year.

I assume no.

[UNT90]

And, Zach Orr as he chases the tackle record, right?

Crazy how DT is so polarizing to some. I long ago admitted I was wrong about him. Don't understand why others can't.

Derek didn't chose the team around him or the circumstances. Everything he earns and achieves is well deserved because of those of us who didn't believe in him for so long. He's earned the right to have his achievements celebrated.

I see football for what it is: a team game. Derek is one of 26 starters comprising the offense and defense and special teams players (kicker, punter, holder, deep snapper included here). Coach McCarney will be the first to tell you that Derek didn't always have I-A/FBS-level talent around him.

But, you know what, Derek probably wouldn't. The kid never complained, pouted, threw twitter tantrums, transferred, or quit. Many kids in his situation do.

I think you cut this kid and his blood is Mean Green; and, likely Meaner and Greener than most of us. I'm sorry I ever doubted this good, hard-working kid.

Once the coaches learned to trust DT (still not a complete process), we saw what DT could do.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for the player DT has WORKED himself into. He has maximized every ounce of talent that god has given him. That is a pretty special thing to see. Anytime. Anywhere.

Now, if the coaching staff will keep trusting him, and with this defense, there is little doubt in my mind that we can win out.

IF the coaching staff keeps trusting DT.

Edited October 27, 2013 by UNT90

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Among NT QBs at the Division I-A/FBS level, Thompson is now:

Passing Attempts
1. Steve Ramsey: 1,015
2. Derek Thompson: 926 (needs 29.7 attempts per game to pass Ramsey)

Passes Completed

1. Derek Thompson: 561

2. Giovanni Vizza: 532

On a 3rd and 5 from the Louisiana Tech 38, Derek Thompson completed a 35 yard pass to Darnell Smith to become UNT's all-time leader in completed passes among I-A/FBS-level quarterbacks.


Passing Efficiency
1. Scott Hall: 132.26

2. Derek Thompson: 127.4

3. Riley Dodge: 125.71


Touchdown Passes
1. Steve Ramsey: 69
2. Scott Hall: 50
3. Derek Thompson: 38 (needs 4.3 per game to pass Hall at #2)

Passing Yards
1. Steve Ramsey: 7,076
2. Derek Thompson: 6,635 (needs 147.3 per game to pass Ramsey)

Completion Percentage

1. Riley Dodge: 64.7%

2. Jordan Case: 61.6%
3. Giovanni Vizza: 60.7%

4. Derek Thompson: 60.5%

Career 200 Yard Passing Games
1. Steve Ramsey: 20
2. Derek Thompson: 18 (has a outside shot at getting past Ramsey)

Career 300 Yard Passing Games

1. Derek Thompson: 7

2. Steve Ramsey: 6

During the 3rd Quarter, on a 3rd and 10 from the Southern Miss 39, Derek Thompson completed a 14 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time leader in 300 yard passing games among Divison I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

Career Total Offense (Passing + Rushing)

1. Derek Thompson: 6,914

2. Steve Ramsey: 6,568

During the 1st Quarter, on a 3rd and 8 from the Southern Miss 44, Derek Thompson completed a 15 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time total offense leader among Division I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

All of Derek Thompson's record setting plays this season have come on 3rd down with 5 or more yards to go.

Edited November 1, 2013 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Among NT QBs at the Division I-A/FBS level, Thompson is now:

Passing Attempts
1. Steve Ramsey: 1,015
2. Derek Thompson: 950 (needs 32.6 attempts per game to pass Ramsey)

Passes Completed

1. Derek Thompson: 571

2. Giovanni Vizza: 532

On a 3rd and 5 from the Louisiana Tech 38, Derek Thompson completed a 35 yard pass to Darnell Smith to become UNT's all-time leader in completed passes among I-A/FBS-level quarterbacks.


Passing Efficiency
1. Scott Hall: 132.26

2. Derek Thompson: 127.4

3. Riley Dodge: 125.71


Touchdown Passes
1. Steve Ramsey: 69
2. Scott Hall: 50
3. Derek Thompson: 39

Passing Yards
1. Steve Ramsey: 7,076
2. Derek Thompson: 6,789 (needs 143.6 per game to pass Ramsey)

Completion Percentage

1. Riley Dodge: 64.7%

2. Jordan Case: 61.6%
3. Giovanni Vizza: 60.7%

4. Derek Thompson: 60.1%

Career 200 Yard Passing Games
1. Steve Ramsey: 20
2. Derek Thompson: 18 (has a outside shot at getting past Ramsey)

Career 300 Yard Passing Games

1. Derek Thompson: 7

2. Steve Ramsey: 6

During the 3rd Quarter, on a 3rd and 10 from the Southern Miss 39, Derek Thompson completed a 14 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time leader in 300 yard passing games among Divison I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

Career Total Offense (Passing + Rushing)

1. Derek Thompson: 7,072

2. Steve Ramsey: 6,568

During the 1st Quarter, on a 3rd and 8 from the Southern Miss 44, Derek Thompson completed a 15 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time total offense leader among Division I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

During the 4th Quarter, on a 2nd and 9 from the UTEP 42, Derek Thompson threw a touchdown pass to Carlos Harris to become UNT's first I-A/FBS quarterback to surpass 7,000 career yards in total offense.

Until the touchdown strike to Harris to put him over 7,000 yards in total offense, all of Derek Thompson's record setting plays this season had come on 3rd down with 5 or more yards to go.

Edited November 10, 2013 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Among NT QBs at the Division I-A/FBS level, Thompson is now:

Passing Attempts
1. Steve Ramsey: 1,015
2. Derek Thompson: 996 (needs 20 attempts versus Tulsa to pass Ramsey)

Passes Completed

1. Derek Thompson: 597 (will become UNT's first I-A/FBS quarterback to complete 600 or more passes with three against Tulsa)

2. Giovanni Vizza: 532

On a 3rd and 5 from the Louisiana Tech 38, Derek Thompson completed a 35 yard pass to Darnell Smith to become UNT's all-time leader in completed passes among I-A/FBS-level quarterbacks.


Passing Efficiency
1. Scott Hall: 132.26

2. Derek Thompson: 125.8

3. Riley Dodge: 125.71


Touchdown Passes
1. Steve Ramsey: 69
2. Scott Hall: 50
3. Derek Thompson: 40

Passing Yards
1. Steve Ramsey: 7,076
2. Derek Thompson: 7,018 (needs 59 more yards to become UNT's all-time leader in passing yard for I-A/FBS quarterbacks)

During the fourth quarter of the UTSA game, on 1st and 10 from the UTSA 41, Derek Thompson completed a 14 yard pass to Darnell Smith to become only the second I-A/FBS quarterback to throw for 7,000 yards..

Completion Percentage

1. Riley Dodge: 64.7%

2. Jordan Case: 61.6%
3. Giovanni Vizza: 60.7%

4. Derek Thompson: 59.9%

Career 200 Yard Passing Games
1. Steve Ramsey: 20
2. Derek Thompson: 19 (will tie Ramsey with a 200 yard game against either Tulsa or in the bowl game)

Career 300 Yard Passing Games

1. Derek Thompson: 7

2. Steve Ramsey: 6

During the 3rd Quarter, on a 3rd and 10 from the Southern Miss 39, Derek Thompson completed a 14 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time leader in 300 yard passing games among Divison I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

Career Total Offense (Passing + Rushing)

1. Derek Thompson: 7,304

2. Steve Ramsey: 6,568

During the 1st Quarter, on a 3rd and 8 from the Southern Miss 44, Derek Thompson completed a 15 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time total offense leader among Division I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

During the 4th Quarter, on a 2nd and 9 from the UTEP 42, Derek Thompson threw a touchdown pass to Carlos Harris to become UNT's first I-A/FBS quarterback to surpass 7,000 career yards in total offense.

Until the touchdown strike to Harris to put him over 7,000 yards in total offense, all of Derek Thompson's record setting plays this season had come on 3rd down with 5 or more yards to go.

Edited November 25, 2013 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

[BillySee58]

Congratulations on your accomplishments here Derek

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

Among NT QBs at the Division I-A/FBS level, Thompson is now:

Passing Attempts

1. Derek Thompson: 1,022

2. Steve Ramsey: 1,015

During the 1st Quarter of the Tulsa game, on 2nd and 5 from the Tulsa 20, Derek completed a 17 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor. The pass was the 1,000th of his career, making him and Steve Ramsey NT's only D-I/FBS-level quarterbacks to have throw 1,000 passes in a career.

During the 2nd Quarter of the Tulsa game, on a 3rd and 5 from the Tulsa 49, Derek completed a 28 yard pass to Marcus Smith. The pass was the 1,016th of his career and broke Steve Ramsey's record for pass attempts by a D-I/FBS quarterback.

Passes Completed

1. Derek Thompson: 614

2. Giovanni Vizza: 532

During the Louisian Tech game, on a 3rd and 5 from the Louisiana Tech 38, Derek Thompson completed a 35 yard pass to Darnell Smith to become UNT's all-time leader in completed passes among I-A/FBS-level quarterbacks.

During the Tulsa game, on a 2nd and 8 from the Tulsa 38, Derek completed a 13 yard pass to Drew Miller. The pass was the 600th completion of his career. No other D-I/FBS quarterback in North Texas history has completed 600 passes.


Passing Efficiency
1. Scott Hall: 132.26

2. Derek Thompson: 125.8

3. Riley Dodge: 125.71


Touchdown Passes
1. Steve Ramsey: 69
2. Scott Hall: 50
3. Derek Thompson: 40

Passing Yards

1. Derek Thompson: 7,191

2. Steve Ramsey: 7,076

During the fourth quarter of the UTSA game, on 1st and 10 from the UTSA 41, Derek completed a 14 yard pass to Darnell Smith to become only the second I-A/FBS quarterback to throw for 7,000 yards.

During the first quarter of the Tulsa game, on 2nd and 20 from the UNT 28, Derek completed a 7 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to break Steve Ramsey's career passing yards record for NT D-I/FBS-level quarterbacks.

Completion Percentage

1. Riley Dodge: 64.7%

2. Jordan Case: 61.6%
3. Giovanni Vizza: 60.7%

4. Derek Thompson: 60.4%

Career 200 Yard Passing Games
1. Steve Ramsey: 20
2. Derek Thompson: 19 (can tie Ramsey for Career 200 Yard Passing Game if he passes for 200 yards during the bowl game)

Career 300 Yard Passing Games

1. Derek Thompson: 7

2. Steve Ramsey: 6

During the 3rd Quarter, on a 3rd and 10 from the Southern Miss 39, Derek Thompson completed a 14 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time leader in 300 yard passing games among Divison I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

Career Total Offense (Passing + Rushing)

1. Derek Thompson: 7,493

2. Steve Ramsey: 6,568

During the 1st Quarter, on a 3rd and 8 from the Southern Miss 44, Derek Thompson completed a 15 yard pass to Brelan Chancellor to become UNT's all-time total offense leader among Division I-A/FBS quarterbacks.

During the 4th Quarter, on a 2nd and 9 from the UTEP 42, Derek Thompson threw a touchdown pass to Carlos Harris to become UNT's first I-A/FBS quarterback to surpass 7,000 career yards in total offense.

Until the touchdown strike to Harris to put him over 7,000 yards in total offense, all of Derek Thompson's record setting plays this season had come on 3rd down with 5 or more yards to go.

Derek needs only seven more yards passing and/or rushing to become North Texas' only D-I/FBS-level quarterback to have more than 7,500 yard of total offense in a career.

Edited December 2, 2013 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

[FirefightnRick]

Thank you Finch.

Rick

[BillySee58]

Thanks for keeping up with these stats!