New Offer- WR out of Carthage

Peacock · November 1, 2013

Had a chance to meet all three of them at Carthage HS today.

I first saw Bogenshultz and congratulated him on his UTSA commitment, and told him I was looking forward to beating him for the next 4-5 years. He laughed, and mentioned that he had been hoping for a UNT offer, but had good things to say about Connor Means.

Next, Rutherford came up to the table,and I immediately knew who he was. At 6'5"' he is easy to spot and looks like a CB's nightmare. He seemed excited about his offer and we talked a little about the Rice game. He was wearing a Cougar High Tshirt, so I had to give him a little bit of a hard time, but was good natured at the ribbing.

A short while later Goree came up to the table and was surprised that I knew his name. He told me that UNT was his top choice still... could we beat Colorado for the Goree sweep stakes! It would be nice, I hope we can hang on to him!

Rutherford came back up and we talked some about Apogee, I talked up the Rice game some more, and even talked about our current #3, and of his NFL chances! Got a pic of them both flashing the claw. (They may need to work on that)

On another note, the OL Goodacre chatted with me as well, very impressive frame! Again I extended my congratulations for his LaLa commit, and told him what a great fan base and program they have. But I sincerely got the impression, he would come if offered.

Edited November 1, 2013 by Peacock

jtm0097 · November 1, 2013

Nice post. I use to hate playing Carthage in high school. They had so many athletes.

BigDanTeague · November 1, 2013

I bet Goree will get an SEC offer at some point.

Hopefully UNT is recruiting Rutherford hard. Would be a steal.

NT03 · November 4, 2013

@_TGoree_: Think ima commit Nov. 26.. Day my Angel left me!

I'd probably do a dance if we got Goree. Stud

greenminer · November 6, 2013

Had a chance to meet all three of them at Carthage HS today.

Nice post but, man!, tread lightly when interacting with recruits.

BillySee58 · November 16, 2013

We just offered his 6'5 teammate.
http://etsn.fm/north-texas-offers-carthage-receiver-okeeron-rutherford/

O'Keeron Rutherford caught 3 touchdown passes in Carthage's 49-6 win over Mexia in the first round of the Texas 3A, Division 1 playoffs. Rutherford has now caught 12 touchdown passes on the year.

NT03 · November 16, 2013

O'Keeron Rutherford caught 3 touchdown passes in Carthage's 49-6 win over Mexia in the first round of the Texas 3A, Division 1 playoffs. Rutherford has now caught 12 touchdown passes on the year.

I'm thinking maybe our coaches are envisioning him as a TE ? I'd love to land them both

H-towngreen · November 16, 2013

I'm thinking maybe our coaches are envisioning him as a TE ? I'd love to land them both

He'd have to stack on a lot of weight as he's listed at 180 on all the sites I see. I would just love to have a couple of receivers who are 6'3+

BillySee58 · November 16, 2013

I'm thinking maybe our coaches are envisioning him as a TE ? I'd love to land them both

I asked that to big Dan either in this thread or another and he said Rutherford is a true receiver and doesn't have the frame. But who knows really?

If we can bring in Goree and Rutherford then we can give Rutherford a redshirt year to work on his route running, get his grades in order, and put some weight on that 6'4" frame. Even if he doesn't grow as big as Marcus Smith, our TE who was a converted hs receiver, he could still put some weight on and get him going over the middle.

A 6'4" 215 lb Rutherford going against linebackers and safeties could be fun to watch. For us

emmitt01 · November 16, 2013

Goree also has a UTSA offer. His current QB, Blake Bogenschutz has already committed to the Roadrunners.

The QB didn't want to play D1 football?

NT03 · November 16, 2013

I asked that to big Dan either in this thread or another and he said Rutherford is a true receiver and doesn't have the frame. But who knows really?
If we can bring in Goree and Rutherford then we can give Rutherford a redshirt year to work on his route running, get his grades in order, and put some weight on that 6'4" frame. Even if he doesn't grow as big as Marcus Smith, our TE who was a converted hs receiver, he could still put some weight on and get him going over the middle.
A 6'4" 215 lb Rutherford going against linebackers and safeties could be fun to watch. For us

Didn't see that. I was thinking of Marcus Smith as well. I've never seen this kid , was just thinking of TE based on the estn article that said :

Carthage’s physical, large-framed senior receiver told ETSN.fm just after noon Tuesday that North Texas offered him. The Mean Green join ULM as Rutherford’s two offers.

BillySee58 · November 16, 2013

Didn't see that. I was thinking of Marcus Smith as well. I've never seen this kid , was just thinking of TE based on the estn article that said :
Carthages physical, large-framed senior receiver told ETSN.fm just after noon Tuesday that North Texas offered him. The Mean Green join ULM as Rutherfords two offers.

Yup, exactly what got me thinking that. Watching the highlights I could find of him he does have a pretty slender frame. But he could still easily put on weight, but just by looking at him right now I don't think he'll ever get Marcus Smith big. But that's okay.

When I think of what we could do with Rutherford I think of Cornelius Ingram, a receiver/tight end who played with Florida during the Tebow days. Ingram had a slender frame but he bulked up and became a matchup nightmare playing tight end. Ingram was a little bigger coming out of high school than Rutherford and he was an absolute natural pass-catcher. Ingram came into Florida under 210 lbs and played his junior and senior year in the high 230s.

We wouldn't need Rutherford to be that good or big, but if we could get him in the high 210s and hopefully 220s he could add a similar wrinkle to our offense.

BigDanTeague · November 19, 2013

Rutherford is a receiver and will be a receiver. His frame is too slight to bulk up enough to be a tight end. He can't add 60 good pounds.

Think taller, less athletic Edward Pope.

BillySee58 · November 19, 2013

Rutherford is a receiver and will be a receiver. His frame is too slight to bulk up enough to be a tight end. He can't add 60 good pounds.

Think taller, less athletic Edward Pope.

How about a big receiver? Used like a tight end in the passing game over the middle but not asked to put his hand in the dirt. Maybe not adding 60 good pounds, but how about 30-40 good pounds?

BillySee58 · November 23, 2013

Gored has a 97 yard touchdown catch for Carthage and they lead Navasota 24-7 at half. Really good Navasota team they're beating. Goree is supposed to commit on Tuesday and we were his leader at last note.

jtm0097 · November 23, 2013

I see he constantly retweets Carlos Harris. I hope that is a good sign.

BillySee58 · November 23, 2013

I see he constantly retweets Carlos Harris. I hope that is a good sign.

And Kenny Buyers at least once. Haven't seen him retweet any other school's players. He is also coming back to Denton tomorrow with his qb Bogenschutz, UTSA commit, to watch the game.

Carthage dominated Navasota 44-14. Navasota was 10-1 and was picked by Greg Tepper of DCTF to make it all the way to the state championship game. http://www.texasfootball.com/assets/2013-Playoffs/GT3ADI.pdf

Edited November 23, 2013 by BillySee58

NT03 · November 23, 2013

Who does Carthage draw next ?

UNTLifer · November 23, 2013

Got my fingers crossed. Goree, Davis and Adams would be a great trio of WR's in this class.

BillySee58 · November 23, 2013

Who does Carthage draw next ?

Silsbee

H-towngreen · November 23, 2013

And Kenny Buyers at least once. Haven't seen him retweet any other school's players. He is also coming back to Denton tomorrow with his qb Bogenschutz, UTSA commit, to watch the game.
Carthage dominated Navasota 44-14. Navasota was 10-1 and was picked by Greg Tepper of DCTF to make it all the way to the state championship game. http://www.texasfootball.com/assets/2013-Playoffs/GT3ADI.pdf

Let's hope for a good showing

BillySee58 · November 23, 2013

Let's hope for a good showing

Oh for sure, but honestly if he is committing on Tuesday like he said he is going to then his decision is already made. Doesn't mean we shouldn't go out and kick some UTSA tail, but I think Goree's mind is made up.

outoftown · November 23, 2013

Let's hope for a good showing

This is why this game is so important: NT needs to make evident and obvious to recruits what the members of this board already know: UNT and UTSA may be in the same conference, but they are not in really in the same league.