DT over/under vs. Idaho

[BillySee58]

I know most of us are more concerned about how much we run on first down, how much we open up the offense, and how well we do in the redzone, but here's a more basic prediction.

We're going against a weak secondary with one starter returning and another with some experience and they've got a receiver mixing in with the secondary. Not to mention they'll stack the box and dare us to throw.

So what do you guys think?

Over/under for Thompson: 230 passing yards, 2.5 passing touchdowns

[H-towngreen]

Under

[JesseMartin]

I'll also say under, just because I don't expect him to play the whole game. Maybe 1 or 2 TDs from him, along with some FGs and rushing TDs, and he'll be pulled to give somebody else some playing time.

[aprice]

I'll also say under, just because I don't expect him to play the whole game. Maybe 1 or 2 TDs from him, along with some FGs and rushing TDs, and he'll be pulled to give somebody else some playing time.

Having these kinds of expectations is a good way to get let down. I will be shocked if we have this game put away by the 4th quarter. Thats not the way we do things around here.

[Green Crazy]

Under, but only because I don't think he'll be passing much in the second half, not because he couldn't. He'll be close though... Just over 200 and 2 TDs.

[JesseMartin]

Having these kinds of expectations is a good way to get let down. I will be shocked if we have this game put away by the 4th quarter. Thats not the way we do things around here.

I ain't scurred.

[chrisfisher]

Under.

[MeanGreenTexan]

I'm in agreement with most here.

If he goes over, it's because our defense is not doing their job.

[UNT Mean Green]

Under; unless he gets some RAC yards, which would mean that he has to be accurate on his throws and hit guys in stride.

[Mean Green 93-98]

Sounds like the over/under is set a little high.

[BillySee58]

Sounds like the over/under is set a little high.

DT averaged 220 yards a game last year and we're playing a team with a bad secondary who will load the box and force him to throw.

Everyone picking the under makes me feel like we have very low expectations from our qb. This is a game where DT should have a field day.

[UNT Mean Green]

DT averaged 220 yards a game last year and we're playing a team with a bad secondary who will load the box and force him to throw.

Everyone picking the under makes me feel like we have very low expectations from our qb. This is a game where DT should have a field day.

Should...but we all have a reason to be skeptical based on the history. We all certainly HOPE that DT shows marked improvement over 2011 and 2012 against Idaho.

[BillySee58]

Should...but we all have a reason to be skeptical based on the history. We all certainly HOPE that DT shows marked improvement over 2011 and 2012 against Idaho.

If he can't pick apart this secondary then we could be in for a long season. He should be replaced if he has a bad game here. That is, if we want any chance at a bowl game or at least 6 wins this year

[MeanGreenTexan]

DT averaged 220 yards a game last year and we're playing a team with a bad secondary who will load the box and force him to throw.

Everyone picking the under makes me feel like we have very low expectations from our qb. This is a game where DT should have a field day.

Right. and all of those games were either close, or we were behind, so he had to throw. We should not expect that for this game.

[UNT Mean Green]

If he can't pick apart this secondary then we could be in for a long season. He should be replaced if he has a bad game here. That is, if we want any chance at a bowl game or at least 6 wins this year

If he starts out like Texas Southern, Troy, or WKU last year bring in the backup(s). There should not be any tolerance for that type of play and the other 105 players on the team should not be subjected to it. Again, I think we all certainly HOPE that he plays like he did against Kansas State; and if he can do that we will be VERY successful.

[meangreener]

Under.

[BillySee58]

If he starts out like Texas Southern, Troy, or WKU last year bring in the backup(s). There should not be any tolerance for that type of play and the other 105 players on the team should not be subjected to it. Again, I think we all certainly HOPE that he plays like he did against Kansas State; and if he can do that we will be VERY successful.

Just to put the Texas Southern performance in perspective:

- Texas Southern was 2-9 last year in FCS. We were the only FBS team they played, so 2-8 against FCS opponents.

- In 7 of Texas Southern's other 10 games the opposing team threw for a higher percentage than DT did against them (11-24 for 46%)

- In 9 of Texas Southern's other 10 games the opposing team threw for more yards than DT did against them. In other words, the game against us was the second least passing yards they allowed in a game all season.

Basically, DT had almost the worst performance that an FCS opponent faced all year, playing a schedule of otherwise only FCS teams.

This Idaho game is this year's equivalent to the Texas Southern game IMO. It's a weak non-conference team that we are bringing in to win and win handily. This game is supposed to be a confidence builder for our team, especially DT.

[StealthEagle84]

I'm not concerned with the over/under here. The original post brought up the key point to this offense, red zone efficiency. We were in the middle of the pack in yardage (51st in the nation in rushing & 73rd in passing & 67th in total offense) and did a decent job taking care of the ball (.08 turnover margin for 55th in the nation) but somehow we were 103rd in the nation in scoring (20.9 points per game). It seemed like every time we got to the red zone, we shuttered down. I'm hoping Darius Terrell can come on and give us a red zone target to throw to. Last season, we had nothing outside of the tackle box to threaten the end zone except maybe Chancellor, who really isn't a red zone threat with his size. He's more of an open field threat (see Wes Welker TD produciton). Plain and simple, we have to execute inside the 20. If we can do that, we add 2 to 3 more wins this season.

http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/rankingSummary?year=2012&org=497

[Zeke]

Under - Mac spoke of how hot it was here and how mild it was in Idaho. He said he wanted to tire them out - sounds like a grind it out game to me.

[EagleD]

Under - Mac spoke of how hot it was here and how mild it was in Idaho. He said he wanted to tire them out - sounds like a grind it out game to me.

This. And he won't play the whole game.

[BillySee58]

This. And he won't play the whole game.

Just out of curiosity, why do people think he won't play the whole game?

He played almost the whole game in every game last year, except for the last drive in the TSU and LSU games. Or do you guys think Mac will give another qb some drives to run the offense?

[Mean Green 93-98]

Just out of curiosity, why do people think he won't play the whole game?

He played almost the whole game in every game last year, except for the last drive in the TSU and LSU games. Or do you guys think Mac will give another qb some drives to run the offense?

Because Coach Mac has insisted he is going to play other QBs. He still says that Dajon is going to play. Coach Mac seems to be firmly of the school of redshirting and developing players, so I don't think he would deviate from that to give Williams one or two series all season. His comments about the 2-deep today suggested that all 4 scholarship QBs were going to play. He had no intention of playing other QBs last year.

Last year, DT was firmly entrenched as the starter the previous spring. This year, Coach Mac just announced DT as the starter the Monday before the season opener. I think Coach Mac really wants to see what the different QBs he has this year can do in game situations, and probably has particular situations he wants to see particular QBs in.

We have seen Coach Mac play multiple QBs in a game before. Year before last, he played 3 QBs against Bama, and none of them was injured. In other games (e.g., Houston), he would stick in McNulty when he wanted a more athletic QB behind center. Considering his current options, I wouldn't be surprised to see him do much more of that this year.

[BillySee58]

Because Coach Mac has insisted he is going to play other QBs. He still says that Dajon is going to play. Coach Mac seems to be firmly of the school of redshirting and developing players, so I don't think he would deviate from that to give Williams one or two series all season. His comments about the 2-deep today suggested that all 4 scholarship QBs were going to play. He had no intention of playing other QBs last year.

Last year, DT was firmly entrenched as the starter the previous spring. This year, Coach Mac just announced DT as the starter the Monday before the season opener. I think Coach Mac really wants to see what the different QBs he has this year can do in game situations, and probably has particular situations he wants to see particular QBs in.

We have seen Coach Mac play multiple QBs in a game before. Year before last, he played 3 QBs against Bama, and none of them was injured. In other games (e.g., Houston), he would stick in McNulty when he wanted a more athletic QB behind center. Considering his current options, I wouldn't be surprised to see him do much more of that this year.

I hope that's the case. I think our offense could really benefit from having other qbs under center, especially if DT is just going to hand the ball of.

As for Williams, I would be surprised if he doesn't redshirt, despite what coach Mac has said. Also, if what our potential insiders have said is true about the second scrimmage and the mock game, Williams isn't ready yet and Berglund would give us the true dual threat at qb as far as putting in a qb to primarily run the ball and run the read option.

[houstonmeangreen]

Under. Lots of running and he may not play the whole game.

agree with this....so under for me too