Do you go with the young guy with upside?

Harry · August 13, 2013

Even if it means you could lose some games to do it?

I think this is a valid question.

Stan R · August 13, 2013

yes but please define "some".

H-towngreen · August 13, 2013

Even if it means you could lose some games to do it?
I think this is a valid question.

No. Now if they are even then I would say you go with the youngster. But you put out who will give you the best chance to win every week.

BillySee58 · August 13, 2013

I don't see how Thompson would lead us to victories in any games that Williams, or Berglund really, wouldn't be able to.

They bring more upside because they are more talented and can do things that DT cannot, with their arm and legs. We're going to rely heavily on the run, so that will help us break them in. Relieve the pressure on them so we can call plays to their strengths.

H-towngreen · August 13, 2013

I do like what DW or BB can bring to this offense with their feet. Having that Zone Read option will help in opening up running lanes for the RB and also of course help in the passing game.

GOMG2013 · August 13, 2013

Even if it means you could lose some games to do it?
I think this is a valid question.

Good question because Mac said Dajon will not redshirt. I translate that to him getting in some games this year. How much playing time to make it worth it?

A 4-8 or 5-7 season from DT, then we may as well had a young qb in there and get ready for mext year. I agree wuth billiesee58. I cant see any other qb that brings so much less than DT, where it would factor in wins or losses.

Green P1 · August 13, 2013

If its even close...Yes. We havent had a decent offense since Rodge left. Dajon could be Rodge with a gun.

Stan R · August 13, 2013

Pardon Me - do you happen to have any Dajon mustard?

couldn't help it.

Mean_Green09 · August 13, 2013

I think this program is in a position where it has to go with the guy that gives it the best chance to win. You cant look to the future this year there is too much at stake. If we are sitting at 0-6 then ya play a guy for upside. I really think that the decision will come down to DT or Dajon. Brock has just not played enough in the past couple of years to make me believe that he can turn it on so quickly. In all honesty I think most people including myself believed he would have already claimed the starting job. The fact that he hasn't makes me hesitant to believe he can win the job at this point.

Either you can play or you cant, if none of these guys establishes themselves as the leader and QB of this program well then we are looking at a disappointing year. I wonder how many times in his career has Mac started a true freshmen QB.

H-towngreen · August 13, 2013

I just want someone to step up and claim this job as theirs.

MeanGreenTexan · August 13, 2013

No. Now if they are even then I would say you go with the youngster. But you put out who will give you the best chance to win every week.

Exactly. Even if that means the dreaded 'rotation'.

Travis · August 13, 2013

No. Now if they are even then I would say you go with the youngster. But you put out who will give you the best chance to win every week.

I agree with this.

You play the best. If they are even, then go with the younger.

UNT90 · August 13, 2013

Even if it means you could lose some games to do it?
I think this is a valid question.

This season SHOULD decide Mac 's job status at UNT, so he SHOULD go with the QB that he feels will help him keep his job (translation: win games).

But we are NOT the typical FBS athletic program, so who the hell knows.

Edited August 13, 2013 by UNT90

UNT90 · August 13, 2013

DT's fate was sealed wen they wouldn't let him throw a pass after the pic 6 against WKU.

It will be someone different, although I have no idea who.

Edited August 13, 2013 by UNT90

BillySee58 · August 13, 2013

DT's fate was sealed wen they wouldn't let him throw a pass after the pic 6 against WKU.
It will be someone different, although I have no idea who.

I know your opinion that DT was restricted with the playcalling, but to me he sealed his own fate by not improving a lick over two season as the undisputed starting qb.

UNT90 · August 13, 2013

I know your opinion that DT was restricted with the playcalling, but to me he sealed his own fate by not improving a lick over two season as the undisputed starting qb.

The reason doesn't matter. The simple fact is that the coaching staff didn't/doesn't trust DT.

Got5onIt · August 13, 2013

If they're even, i'd go with the Vet. The guy has put in his time with the program and probably deserves a little loyalty. He would be on a really short leash and see his time diminish based on the record and the closer we get to the end of the season.

PlummMeanGreen · August 13, 2013

The UNT coaches will be loyal to DT#7 but he will have to produce right out of the hat for that loyalty to last.

Whoever can lead this team and win games has my vote. Been awhile since we had so many QB's in Fall camp who

could actually start. The competition among'st our QB's will push them to the next level of each of their talent levels for sure or they will not get much playing time. I like the numbers because you just never know about the injury bug in college football.

GMG!

KingDL1 · August 13, 2013

The reason doesn't matter. The simple fact is that the coaching staff didn't/doesn't trust DT.

I think the whole problem starts with the coaching staff, I am ready for a change at OC.

BillySee58 · August 13, 2013

The reason doesn't matter. The simple fact is that the coaching staff didn't/doesn't trust DT.

My point is that the lack of trust isn't completely unwarranted. I just hope that the coaches let whoever it is throw the ball. Especially on first down. Well, now I'm starting to sound like you.

untjim1995 · August 13, 2013

I think that this isn't the year that a coaching change occurs, unless we only win 2 games or less, so Mac should be able to continue to build toward the future. Whether we agree that is right or completely wrong, isn't really the point because it is what it is. That said, I do believe that another guy should be under center instead of DT. He's your backup to ensure that if you need someone ready in case of injury or ineffectiveness, but you have to prepare for the future. Its very possible that the 2nd half of the season will look a lot better for UNT's future, than the first half, just because of the QB situation.

If We get to 5 wins with someone else as QB at the end of the year, I'll bet 2014 will be a very good season for the Mean Green. If we win 5 or less with DT as our main QB all year long, then I think 2014 will be a crapshoot, which is not exactly how Mac wants to go into his make-or-break year on his contract.

UNT90 · August 13, 2013

I think that this isn't the year that a coaching change occurs, unless we only win 2 games or less, so Mac should be able to continue to build toward the future. Whether we agree that is right or completely wrong, isn't really the point because it is what it is. That said, I do believe that another guy should be under center instead of DT. He's your backup to ensure that if you need someone ready in case of injury or ineffectiveness, but you have to prepare for the future. Its very possible that the 2nd half of the season will look a lot better for UNT's future, than the first half, just because of the QB situation.

If We get to 5 wins with someone else as QB at the end of the year, I'll bet 2014 will be a very good season for the Mean Green. If we win 5 or less with DT as our main QB all year long, then I think 2014 will be a crapshoot, which is not exactly how Mac wants to go into his make-or-break year on his contract.

Not to get way ahead of ourselves, but we lose a lot of seniors next season. This year is kinda do or die. Edited August 13, 2013 by UNT90

Harry · August 13, 2013

Not to get way ahead of ourselves, but we lose a lot of seniors next season. This year is kinda do or die.

Yes but with Mac we won't have another year where we only graduate 5 in a season as we did due to Dodge either! he redshirts a lot and he doesn't have NEAR the defections we saw under Dodge or Dickey... better GPA's and less defections = closer to the holy grail of 105 scholarship players and depth... a place we just haven't been here...

Next year hurts with losing Orr and some others but this program is on much better ground than it has been in a long, long time.

UNT90 · August 13, 2013

Yes but with Mac we won't have another year where we only graduate 5 in a season as we did due to Dodge either! he redshirts a lot and he doesn't have NEAR the defections we saw under Dodge or Dickey... better GPA's and less defections = closer to the holy grail of 105 scholarship players and depth... a place we just haven't been here...

Next year hurts with losing Orr and some others but this program is on much better ground than it has been in a long, long time.

Not saying that the program isn't in better overal shape, but if that is the case, it needs to be proven on the field this year when you have the experience to make it happen.

I wouldn't expect a better record next year than this year, but we are getting way ahead of ourselves.