Jump to content

Just curious

emmitt01
 Share

Recommended Posts

KRAM1 Rookie

KRAM1

Posted
Posted

If we find out these kids had marijuana in their system or referred to this guy as a "cracker" are we supposed to acquit?

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/jordan-davis-update-michael-dunn-charged-with-first-degree-murder-trial-scheduled-for-september-23

I am thinking it isn't a curious nature that led you to start this thread.......

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 1
meangreendork Enthusiast

meangreendork

Posted
Posted

If we find out these kids had marijuana in their system or referred to this guy as a "cracker" are we supposed to acquit?

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/jordan-davis-update-michael-dunn-charged-with-first-degree-murder-trial-scheduled-for-september-23

Stirring the pot or not, this case should also be pretty quick to close up. Hell, let's say he was called "cracker" and they were, in fact, high.

The teens' car was searched and no firearms found. They might have talked threats up, but no action seemed to have been taken. Still, Dunn thought it was a good idea to start putting rounds into their car. I don't think SYG counts here at all. The teens appeared to have to gone back to their vehicle, meaning they probably gave ground, and then Dunn starting firing at them. I'm pretty sure that the teens dress, choice of music, body and verbal language played a part in this. There's a slight chance skin color did as well, but I can't say for sure since I don't know Dunn's attitudes on that.

And as has been said before - you never see dude that are high on weed get violent. Hungry? Sleepy? Happy? Sure. But violent? No.

  • Upvote 1
UNT90 Newbie

UNT90

Posted
Posted (edited)

Basically, if you are a violent person, you are going to be a violent person when you are high.

If you're not, you won't.

Edited by UNT90
  • Upvote 1
oldguystudent Newbie

oldguystudent

Posted
Posted

Four articles. One of a guy smoking synthetic marijuana, otherwise known as god knows what from a gas station. One is of a guy using marijuana paraphernalia with no reference as to whether or not he had been ingesting marijuana. One is of shots fired by unidentified people, where people smoking happened to be in the area. Finally, in article number 2, is a story of one man getting violent after smoking marijuana.

I wonder if I could match, or, gasp, maybe even exceed the number of articles you've listed with bona fide stories of alcohol induced violence, possibly from even more credible sources.

I know historically that you've got a personal bent against the stuff. You particularly love to use the old reefer madness spelling of marihuana. As long as it's criminal in Texas, I am going nowhere near it.

But you're gonna be really hard pressed to convince me that it's worse than alcohol, more crime inducing than alcohol (law induced illegal trafficking and distribution, just like bootlegging, notwithstanding), or any more deserving than alcohol to be a class I drug (no legitimate uses whatsoever).

  • Upvote 2
UNT90 Newbie

UNT90

Posted
Posted

Four articles. One of a guy smoking synthetic marijuana, otherwise known as god knows what from a gas station. One is of a guy using marijuana paraphernalia with no reference as to whether or not he had been ingesting marijuana. One is of shots fired by unidentified people, where people smoking happened to be in the area. Finally, in article number 2, is a story of one man getting violent after smoking marijuana.

I wonder if I could match, or, gasp, maybe even exceed the number of articles you've listed with bona fide stories of alcohol induced violence, possibly from even more credible sources.

I know historically that you've got a personal bent against the stuff. You particularly love to use the old reefer madness spelling of marihuana. As long as it's criminal in Texas, I am going nowhere near it.

But you're gonna be really hard pressed to convince me that it's worse than alcohol, more crime inducing than alcohol (law induced illegal trafficking and distribution, just like bootlegging, notwithstanding), or any more deserving than alcohol to be a class I drug (no legitimate uses whatsoever).

Never said its worse than alcohol, but if some think violent people become magically non-violent when using marihuana, they just don't know what they are talking about.

Marihuana is the proper spelling. Marijuana is slang that has been accepted by our culture.

Plus, I thought the man eats dog story was kinda funny.

eulessismore Collaborator

eulessismore

Posted
Posted

Basically, if you are a violent person, you are going to be a violent person when you are high.

If you're not, you won't.

I actually agree with you on this one post. The problem with those who end up as a news story national news with a link to marijuana only have the marijuana part reported and never the variety of other substances, mainly alcohol, but also other abusable substances, illegal or not, that they were likely also using. The other stories you used do provide a good argument against synthetic THC, advocated by the Federal Government as a better alternative to smoking the natural stuff when they were the only providers of "medical marijuana". I think the quotes should handle the "h" versus "j" issue adequately.

  • Upvote 1
UNT90 Newbie

UNT90

Posted
Posted

I actually agree with you on this one post. The problem with those who end up as a news story national news with a link to marijuana only have the marijuana part reported and never the variety of other substances, mainly alcohol, but also other abusable substances, illegal or not, that they were likely also using. The other stories you used do provide a good argument against synthetic THC, advocated by the Federal Government as a better alternative to smoking the natural stuff when they were the only providers of "medical marijuana". I think the quotes should handle the "h" versus "j" issue adequately.

Not a grammar Nazi and have nothing against those who spell it with a J.

Just don't get on my arse for spelling it correctly.

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 1
JesseMartin Explorer

JesseMartin

Posted
Posted

Depends on what kind of crappy music they were playing.

Sadly, this might even be a tactic used during the trial. If the music itself, or its volume, could be considered a verbal assault on someone listening, who knows...I don't know if it's ever been used successfully in terms of music (instead of coming directly from the mouth of the person involved), but the possibility is there for it to be a part of their defense. I really wouldn't expect it to fly, mind you, but you know...it's Florida. Crazy s--t happens there, at a seemingly higher concentration than elsewhere. So I wouldn't be totally shocked if his attorneys tried to play around with the definition of verbal/aural assault.

  • Upvote 1

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.