This season's record

[UNT90]

If you want to buy local, buy Rahr. Fort Worth born and bred.

And the tour of the brewery is a must.

[UNT Five&Dime]

Brew Your Own!

[oldguystudent]

UNT Five&Dime, on 18 Apr 2013 - 08:02, said:

Brew Your Own!

Where has John Denver been? That guy brewed some incredible beer!

[Green P1]

If you want local it's Quakertown Stout FTW.

www.armadilloaleworks.com

That being said... tailgating/sports watching is about quantity over quality. Miller Lite all day long.

[Eagle1855]

As far as our QB play goes is as far as we go. So I have absolutely no idea how good or bad we'll be this season. Though I've been well-conditioned for the latter. But I'm excited about it all the same.

[Harry]

Not to hijack, because this could be its own thread, but I think folks are underestimating how dramatically improved our secondary will be next year. It could - and I emphasize COULD - be one of the deepest and more talented units in C-USA when you look at what we had in the spring and what we will add in the Fall. that type of improvement could make an average d-line better.

[UNT90]

Not to hijack, because this could be its own thread, but I think folks are underestimating how dramatically improved our secondary will be next year. It could - and I emphasize COULD - be one of the deepest and more talented units in C-USA when you look at what we had in the spring and what we will add in the Fall. that type of improvement could make an average d-line better.

If there is no pass rush, the secondary will be bad, no matter how much more talented they are. Lets just hope Polk turns into the real deal at DE.

[UNTLifer]

Finally something we can agree on! Love me some Ugly Pug.

You can agree on something without calling names!

[ragpicker]

Yeah. f-ing global economy. (And sadly I must report that Bass Ale is now brewed in NY.)

I'll tell you this - the local DFW brew market is pretty phenomenal. If you are in the DFW area I promise there are some craft brews that will tickle your fancy. Lots of em. Granted you cant consume most at home as they arent big enough to bottle AND keg their beers but still some great stuff and a lot more of your money stays home rather than going half-way around the world. (Or to NY or St.Luis.)

Good post. There are, indeed, some great craft beers out there and I have enjoyed many of them.

[NorthTexan95]

We start talking about football records and wind up talking about drinking. That doesn't inspire great hope for next season.

I'm looking at 6-6. If DT is the QB all year then I doubt we hit it. If one of the other QBs shows they can be the qb then maybe 7-5. We could hit 8-4 with some luck (but when have we ever had any luck).

Unless go something like 2-10 with a lot of off field problems, Mac won't be fired. He'll at least get his five years.

[greenminer]

Finally! A hijack that gets every one to agree and like each other.

I don't mind one bit that it took beer to get here.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

If there is no pass rush, the secondary will be bad, no matter how much more talented they are. Lets just hope Polk turns into the real deal at DE.

And, stopping the run. Stopping the run is the #1 objective of a defense. If a team can run on you at will, at any time, you are in trouble.

We gave up 163 yards rushing per game at a 5.0 yards per carry clip. That's not good. Any time someone needed/wanted to run on us, they could.

We have our asses worn out on defense because of the thinness of the defensive line. Grand Moff Tarkin was right about our bickering about the quarterbacks - it's pointless. No matter who the starter is, it makes no difference if he's standing on the sidelines watching our defense be bled to death.

Listen closely because I'm only going to say this 437 more times until the season begins: we need a realistic defensive scheme for the players we have and the recruiting circumstances we have.

BYU led the nation in rushing defense last year. Alabama was #2. We expect Alabama to be way up there because they get whomever they want.

BYU is different. They only get those who agree not to be drunk and have sexual relations with the young mormon women on campus with them. That narrows down the field significantly in recruiting. Young mormon women are wildcats in the sack and hard to resist. Every recruit must know that by now. Not only that, but they will agree to marry you as well.

BYU makes up for not being able to land Bama-type DT recruits in scheme, using 3-4 at times, 3-3-5 at times. Bronco Mendenhall explains:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=272&sid=12785897

"...giving lesser players and smaller players a chance, running full speed, to create conventional defense; a chance against bigger, more physical, and maybe, more skillful players."

Yes, This is what we need to do because we cannot get the depth and talent at defensive tackle that we need to be successful in the 4-3.

When we hired Dan McCarney, I never would have believe that because I thought he would be able land more and better defensive tackle recruits than we'd had. After all, he had the national title ring from Florida to wave in recruits' faces from his days as their DL coach.

Three classes have been signed now by McCarney and the depth and skill at defensive tackle has not improved. It's time to go ahead and admit it and try to get a scheme that can better fit what we are able to recruit.

It's called reality, and I think it's time for us to accept it, embrace it, and adjust according to it for the betterment of the football program's future.

Bronco.

Edited April 18, 2013 by The Fake Lonnie Finch

[Harry]

Yes, This is what we need to do because we cannot get the depth and talent at defensive tackle that we need to be successful in the 4-3.

When we hired Dan McCarney, I never would have believe that because I thought he would be able land more and better defensive tackle recruits than we'd had. After all, he had the national title ring from Florida to wave in recruits' faces from his days as their DL coach.

Three classes have been signed now by McCarney and the depth and skill at defensive tackle has not improved. It's time to go ahead and admit it and try to get a scheme that can better fit what we are able to recruit.

It's called reality, and I think it's time for us to accept it, embrace it, and adjust according to it for the betterment of the football program's future.

Bronco.

There is truth in what you say here. The biggest gut punch was to me when we found out Terrel Brooks who Dan signed left to attend Juco and then resign with Baylor. Man that stung. And maybe there was nothing they could have done about it.

This is not to say the guys we have aren't good guys that could become players. But the system has got to be adjusted. We shouldn't find ourselves in this predicament 3 years into the game.

[TheTastyGreek]

Where has John Denver been? That guy brewed some incredible beer!

He's gone. Like those self-immolating Buddhist monks. If you missed his angry departure, remind me to explain the next time we see each other.

I also miss that guy.

[glick1980]

If we ran a 3-4 with current personnel our DL depth would actually be worse because you can't play 240 lb DE's in a 3-4 and expect to hold up against the run. Most of our DE's are OLB's in a 3-4, and most of our 3 techniques are DE's in a 3-4. Our inside LB's would be smallish to take on OG's as well. I do like the idea of the 3-3-5 against spread offenses though. I also think Sir Calvin Wallace is going to be a player this year. I think Mac has made some solid signings at DT, but he can't give a guy a heart and another guy a shoulder. If he could all would be well at that spot right now. I like thinking outside the box, and do agree that we could play some 3-3-5, but I do not think our personnel fits as well with a 3-4.

Edited April 18, 2013 by glick1980

[DallasGreen]

If DT is our QB the whole year I'm expecting 3-4 wins, but if BB is as good as we all think and starts I'm expecting 6-7 wins.

If BB is the QB I expect that by that time this season will be viewed as a failure. BB better worry about beating out McNulty first to be anointed as future All Century player as some think he now is! Maybe his infamous jump pass as revealed in the spring game will get him the job as a starter.

[The Fake Lonnie Finch]

If we ran a 3-4 with current personnel our DL depth would actually be worse because you can't play 240 lb DE's in a 3-4 and expect to hold up against the run. Most of our DE's are OLB's in a 3-4, and most of our 3 techniques are DE's in a 3-4. Our inside LB's would be smallish to take on OG's as well. I do like the idea of the 3-3-5 against spread offenses though. I also think Sir Calvin Wallace is going to be a player this year. I think Mac has made some solid signings at DT, but he can't give a guy a heart and another guy a shoulder. If he could all would be well at that spot right now. I like thinking outside the box, and do agree that we could play some 3-3-5, but I do not think our personnel fits as well with a 3-4.

Agree. That's why I posted Bronco Mendenhall's 3-3-5 explanation.

Look at BYU's roster and ours. They've only got two 300 pounders, we've only got two as well. Our other linemen appear to be about the same size/frame.

http://byucougars.com/roster/m-football?sort=asc&order=Position

http://www.meangreensports.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=9053&SPID=562&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=1800&SORT_ORDER=6&Q_SEASON=2013&PRINTABLE_PAGE=

It's not that I don't respect Dan McCarney's judgement. He did a heck of a job at Florida. But, at some point, I think you look in the mirror and realize we are not going to pull in what Florida pulls in at defensive tackles.

I think that may be what makes a great coach, the ability to adapt. Would it be nice to have 4-6 300 pounders every year to rotate. Yes. It would be a dream for a place like UNT. But, look...it ain't gonna happen.

BYU and other schools who don't get the players other big schools get have adjusted by scheme. I'm just more leaning to that being the answer. We seem to by trying to put the square peg in the round hole.

I think we've got some great athletes at linebacker.

By the way, even though TCU runs a 4-2-5 and not a 3-3-5, I think they disguise their coverage/secondary the same way Bronco Mendenhall does. Look at that clip again and see what he says about lining the secondary up so as not to tip coverage. I'm going to see if I can find some coaching-type footage of TCU and see if that's what they do as well.

[oldguystudent]

TheTastyGreek, on 18 Apr 2013 - 15:19, said:

He's gone. Like those self-immolating Buddhist monks. If you missed his angry departure, remind me to explain the next time we see each other.

I also miss that guy.

I was probably on my own self imposed timeout when that happened. Remind me to remind you.

[meangreener]

QB makes or breaks our season.

[ragpicker]

We start talking about football records and wind up talking about drinking. That doesn't inspire great hope for next season.

I'm looking at 6-6. If DT is the QB all year then I doubt we hit it. If one of the other QBs shows they can be the qb then maybe 7-5. We could hit 8-4 with some luck (but when have we ever had any luck).

Unless go something like 2-10 with a lot of off field problems, Mac won't be fired. He'll at least get his five years.

I was driven to drink sometime during Todd Dodge's third year.

[ragpicker]

What are you, some kind of communist???

American light beer. The closer to water (with alcohol content), the better.

You can keep your motor oil.

Evil, foul, swill comrade.

[Got5onIt]

Read other college boards for the mid-majors and you'll see they, too, have defensive issues. Defensive talent, especially depth, is the hardest to recruit for anyone not labeled a big school. If all things improve at the rate we expect, the difference will be QB play, IMO. If BB wins the job running away, we'll see 5-6 wins. Otherwise, I'm going 3-4 wins.

[MadladUNT]

I feel with the secondary really looking like it is finally turning around, it all comes down to qb play. and i know there is all the debating about DT but this is my opinion on the situation.

plain and simple short of DT FINALLY fixing his foot work and actually stepping into throws instead of always off the back foot. BB needs to the the starter. now i know this is a risky move because of BB lack of experience, and its sad but we all know what we are going to get out of DT... a good practice player who is incredibly inconsistent in games and in all of this time here has really shown minimal improvement in play or even form which really concerns me considering that our O-coordinator is the qb coach and cant get our starting qb past abysmal throwing form. Any way point is we know what we are getting with DT which is 3 maybe 4 wins because with an inconsistent passing game as stated by others with 8 in the box i dont care how good the oline is its hard to run. So you have to go with BB who is supposed to have this talent but we wont see it unless he plays in games. practice is one thing but games are another. and with BB running ability it will really open up the offense. but like i said this is risky so i cant put a good win cap on BB but i feel the upside is worth the risk, because honestly to me there is not much difference between 2 wins and 5 wins you either have a winning record or a bowl game or you dont.

So that being said with DT=2-3 BB=2-7

[Harry]

I feel with the secondary really looking like it is finally turning around, it all comes down to qb play. and i know there is all the debating about DT but this is my opinion on the situation.

plain and simple short of DT FINALLY fixing his foot work and actually stepping into throws instead of always off the back foot. BB needs to the the starter. now i know this is a risky move because of BB lack of experience, and its sad but we all know what we are going to get out of DT... a good practice player who is incredibly inconsistent in games and in all of this time here has really shown minimal improvement in play or even form which really concerns me considering that our O-coordinator is the qb coach and cant get our starting qb past abysmal throwing form. Any way point is we know what we are getting with DT which is 3 maybe 4 wins because with an inconsistent passing game as stated by others with 8 in the box i dont care how good the oline is its hard to run. So you have to go with BB who is supposed to have this talent but we wont see it unless he plays in games. practice is one thing but games are another. and with BB running ability it will really open up the offense. but like i said this is risky so i cant put a good win cap on BB but i feel the upside is worth the risk, because honestly to me there is not much difference between 2 wins and 5 wins you either have a winning record or a bowl game or you dont.

So that being said with DT=2-3 BB=2-7

I agree with a lot of what you say... My point is Berglund has a huge upside and three years of eligibility, DT is a senior. Mac needs to win THIS year. Had we won a couple more games last year Mac probably wouldn't have as much urgency to win. Mac has shown us he likes to play mistake free football to the point that last year we NEVER even attempted to throw the football on first down. So, my thought is Mac will lean to sticking with DT early in the season. The good news is it appears that unlike last year, Mac will be able to keep DT on a very short leash this year because he has options. I also think we will have an improved defense which could help.

[SilverEagle]

I agree with a lot of what you say... My point is Berglund has a huge upside and three years of eligibility, DT is a senior. Mac needs to win THIS year. Had we won a couple more games last year Mac probably wouldn't have as much urgency to win. Mac has shown us he likes to play mistake free football to the point that last year we NEVER even attempted to throw the football on first down.

To add to your example, he didn't allow probably one of the best return men in the nation (Chancellor) to return any punts last year either. Didn't we chase off another coach with the same proclivities?

So, my thought is Mac will lean to sticking with DT early in the season. The good news is it appears that unlike last year, Mac will be able to keep DT on a very short leash this year because he has options. I also think we will have an improved defense which could help.

Here's my concern about that. Some players thrive in that environment, and some do not. IF spring is any indication, DT didn't (IMHO) noticeably change competing with the other QB's that were out there. Now, if "little mac" and BB keep improving during the summer and the fall practice, it will be interesting to see how DT reacts (or not) to that.