Bad news on Quenton Brown

Harry · April 2, 2013

Eric_Capper Unfortunately #MeanGreen DE Quenton Brown MRI results show torn ACL that will require surgery. Was having great spring season until injury.

NorthTexan95 · April 2, 2013

If all goes well he could be back playing during the season.

Harry · April 2, 2013

:fpc:

greenminer · April 2, 2013

ugh!

LakeTravis · April 2, 2013

Hopefully they learned the lesson with Freddie Warner & don't rush Q.B. back on the field.

Cross our fingers some DE & DT show up to walk-on in the fall

KRAM1 · April 2, 2013

Really bad news. he was having a great spring. You could tell how upset he was at the scrimmage saturday when this happened.

Good luck, Quenton. Get well soon. Hope you have a speedy and full recovery!

MeanGreenTexan · April 2, 2013

He has redshirt eligibility right?

Harry · April 2, 2013

Yes he should be granted a medical redshirt and will have two full years.

BillySee58 · April 2, 2013

He will have to request a waiver from the NCAA for a hardship waiver, as he has already burned his redshirt.

Harry · April 2, 2013

He will have to request a waiver from the NCAA for a hardship waiver, as he has already burned his redshirt.

They do typically grant those no?

BillySee58 · April 2, 2013

They do typically grant those no?

Yes they do. His situation is different from say, TJ Taylor because Brown would've been perfectly eligible to play this season due to JUCO transfer rules.

The only hold up is that Mac is talking about getting him back on the field this season before conference play starts up. If he sits the season he should get the waiver.

Harry · April 2, 2013

Yes they do. His situation is different from say, TJ Taylor because Brown would've been perfectly eligible to play this season due to JUCO transfer rules.
The only hold up is that Mac is talking about getting him back on the field this season before conference play starts up. If he sits the season he should get the waiver.

I think if he could be 100% by the time conference starts you play him and ask questions later. I think he is that good and could perhaps be the difference in some conference games.

cdizzle86 · April 2, 2013

Save him. I'd rather not waste him on a half of a season with little to no practice.

UNT90 · April 2, 2013

They do typically grant those no?

To OU and Texas, yes.

To UNT, for whatever reason, usual no.

emmitt01 · April 2, 2013

They do typically grant those no?

Yes. Just make sure that the application looks like this..University of ~~North~~ Texas...and not this....University of North Texas.

UNT90 · April 2, 2013

And you won't know if the medical redshirt is granted until well after the season is over. If he can go by conference season, and is truly healthy, play him.

The NCAA will find a way NOT to grant the redshirt when they read the name University of North Texas on the application.

Billy, I can't remember names, but we have had a number of players that perfectly qualify for the medical redshirt only to be denied. The only one I remember granted was to Riley the year he got the bad concussion (I know, whcih one).

H-towngreen · April 2, 2013

Zach Muzzy is a name that pops up for me

And you won't know if the medical redshirt is granted until well after the season is over. If he can go by conference season, and is truly healthy, play him.

The NCAA will find a way NOT to grant the redshirt when they read the name University of North Texas on the application.

Billy, I can't remember names, but we have had a number of players that perfectly qualify for the medical redshirt only to be denied. The only one I remember granted was to Riley the year he got the bad concussion (I know, whcih one).

BillySee58 · April 3, 2013

Yeah, honestly I haven't been around this program long enough but if Q Brown misses the season and is denied a hardship redshirt then that would be absolute BS.

EastTexasMG · April 3, 2013

Didn't Thompson get a medical redshirt after he broke his leg vs Army?

UNT90 · April 3, 2013

Didn't Thompson get a medical redshirt after he broke his leg vs Army?

No, he used a regular red shirt.

But thanks for bringing up memories of Dodge burning his shirt his true freshman year for the last 2 series in the last game of the year (a game that was unwinable in a season that was crap).

EastTexasMG · April 3, 2013

http://www.meangreensports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1800&ATCLID=205092068

It looks like he got one along with Bynes and Cook.

SilverEagle · April 3, 2013

What concerns me is if Mr. Brown has ever had a knee injury before, and went through rehab. If he hasn't he's going to need a lot of support to get through this in a timely manner.

UNT90 · April 3, 2013

http://www.meangreensports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=1800&ATCLID=205092068
It looks like he got one along with Bynes and Cook.

The thing is DT will not end up using that medical redshirt even if it was issued, which I don't think occurred.

DT had a regular red shirt available at the time. He has been a starter ever since. He will probably see some time this year, even if he loses the job to Berglund. So even if he received the medical redshirt, UNT would have received no benefit from the medical redshirt.

Edited April 3, 2013 by UNT90

UNTnewbie · April 3, 2013

I don't believe Hardship Waivers/Medical Redshirts are granted until the player requesting the waiver has used up all of their eligibility. It is my understanding that Brown would request the waiver, after his senior season, in order to play a 5th year(if he missed out playing an entire year). Doesn't matter when the injury happened during the course of the players career but the waiver would be addressed after their senior year. There could be a difference in how JUCO Transfers are handled.

UNT90 · April 3, 2013

I don't believe Hardship Waivers/Medical Redshirts are granted until the player requesting the waiver has used up all of their eligibility. It is my understanding that Brown would request the waiver, after his senior season, in order to play a 5th year(if he missed out playing an entire year). Doesn't matter when the injury happened during the course of the players career but the waiver would be addressed after their senior year. There could be a difference in how JUCO Transfers are handled.

I think you are correct. Obviously, the player also can not have played 4 years when requesting the medical redshirt. If a medical shirt is granted, you have 6 years to play 4. Since Thompson will have played 4 years, he would not be eligible.

35 year old Case Keenum had only played 3 years in 5 when he requested and was granted a medical shirt. Dr. Keenum then got to play a 6th year.

I really wish they would do away with this rule, as it is obviously used to benefit the programs that the NCAA want it to benefit.