UNT Hiring Telemarketing Firm for Athletic Ticket Sales

[untjim1995]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Hard to please some folks.

So, you do what you think is the best thing to do. Seems to work that way.

This looks like a good idea, and worth a shot. UNT is not the first, nor will it be the last to give this a shot. Here's hoping this is a big time success, and I hope I get a call. Would be interesting to me to see the approach used.

I think the university is actually doing some right here. They have to try something to get more people to buy tickets. Maybe this will work out better than what we have been doing. Like Kram said, its worth a shot...

[Mean Green 93-98]

A solid home opener that year vs Rice drew 21,000+ followed by 17K for the next home game (which btw followed a road win) then 3 sub 15,000 crowds.....

21,900 for the last game vs KState game certainly helped but I think our annual 5,000 in attendance would have happened for the last game had it been anyone but a big 12 team....

replace 2 of the home games with Rice and KState in 2004 and I think you see a difference in attendance.

Okay . . . back up one year to 2009. A ton of losing, yet we averaged over 3000 more than in 2004. And that was after a monsoon washed away a huge predicted attendance for the home opener against Ohio.

My only point here is that there's more to getting people in the stands than winning.

[TheColonyEagle]

Okay . . . back up one year to 2009. A ton of losing, yet we averaged over 3000 more than in 2004. And that was after a monsoon washed away a huge predicted attendance for the home opener against Ohio.

My only point here is that there's more to getting people in the stands than winning.

Well obviously our marketing department was stellar then.....

[untjim1995]

Okay . . . back up one year to 2009. A ton of losing, yet we averaged over 3000 more than in 2004. And that was after a monsoon washed away a huge predicted attendance for the home opener against Ohio.

My only point here is that there's more to getting people in the stands than winning.

Southlake takes care of their own, obviously...

[PlummMeanGreen]

Okay . . . back up one year to 2009. A ton of losing, yet we averaged over 3000 more than in 2004. And that was after a monsoon washed away a huge predicted attendance for the home opener against Ohio.

My only point here is that there's more to getting people in the stands than winning.

There are a thousand things to do in the DFW Metroplex on any given Game Day Saturday at Apogee Stadium and is the reason why a "UTSA'esque" or "Mustang-Mania" type of marketing program should be invested in and that in seasons we think we are going to be pretty darn good and then those we are not. We really have no other choice at North Texas but I don't think present crowd understands this or if they do they just don't want to do more than the usual annual staple of Parents Day, Homecoming and other regular marketing promos we have had forever none of which seem to have filled either Fouts or Apogee yet.

We have so many plusses by our DFW location but we just have to start taking advantange of that by doing the things that will get the masses out on Game Day. Our present UNT constituency gives us a tremendous start if we could just find a way to start gettting Denton County newcomers to Apogee.

Lest we forget, many of our UNT alums who are young parents have Soccer Day Saturdays on Mean Green Game Day, too, so what group and what marketing plans can replace that very large group because their kids are going to (understandably) come first over any home game at Apogee Stadium.

The DFW Metroplex will in the next decade probably have close to 10 million citizens and UNT just cannot keep forever drawing 16-18,000 fans per home game since we were doing the 16K averages close to 40 years ago with a much smaller UNT constituency. At some point with the right "Mean Green Newcomers" program this thing just has to start sky-rocketing at the turnstiles and I honest to goodness think it will with the right plans in place, but we have to do more than Freshmen Orientations, Parents Days, Homecoming, Seniors Last Game promos to do all this IMHO.

GMG!

Edited February 19, 2013 by PlummMeanGreen

[ragpicker]

If there are far more UNT alumni in Dallas than there are in Denton then any ticket sale increase should target that alumni base. Of course, I believe at least half of those fans have told me personally through the years that they wouldn't get on I-35 at night if they did not have to for anything short of the second coming. I have said it before, but that is where the "A" Train can make a big difference. (I-35 is only going to get worse in the next few years.}

[PlummMeanGreen]

If there are far more UNT alumni in Dallas than there are in Denton then any ticket sale increase should target that alumni base. Of course, I believe at least half of those fans have told me personally through the years that they wouldn't get on I-35 at night if they did not have to for anything short of the second coming. I have said it before, but that is where the "A" Train can make a big difference. (I-35 is only going to get worse in the next few years.}

Simple Simon's Over-Simplified Plan Says:

Out of 36,000 UNT Students can we get...............................................................................................................................8,000 fans?

Out of 110,000 Denton citizens can we get...........................................................................................................................4,000 fans?

Out of another 600,000 plus Denton County'ites most living within 30-35 minutes from Apogee can we get.....................10,000 mostly new fans?

Out of over 200,000 UNT alum in DFW can we get.............................................................................................................10,000 mostly new fans many of whom never attended Mean Green games as UNT students?

For the Eagle Wing Section for Familys of 4, free pizza, cola etc, can we get.......................................................................3,000 fans?

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The above totals 35,000 fans for Game Day at Apogee Stadium which would mean Standing Room Only which would probably pi$$ off the Denton Fire Marshall............so be it.

Might shooting for goals from all our various UNT constituencies such as those listed above at least be a worthy beginning point for a marketing program which has goals of producing many more new fans instead of the same old familiar faces and continued average crowds of 16-18,000 in a 31,000 seat football palace like Apogee Stadium?

CUSA membership and what we will witness (and be more than duly impressed) with many of our new conference-mates who have "lights out" marketing programs that sells many tickets (with waiting lists for future sales) will ultimately be the judge and jury for what we've been doing at North Texas--even at a Sun Belt Conference level the last 10 or so years. Hope we have one helluva' turnaound year in all aspects of our athletic program of whom I think many running the show are truly nice folk, but some of us also remember what ex MLB player/manager Leo Durocher once said about nice guys, too, now don't we?

GMG!

Of course I never saw Leo "D" play baseball, but I did witness him as manager in the Astrodome back in the day.

Edited February 19, 2013 by PlummMeanGreen

[TheTastyGreek]

"Uhhh... God evening. My name is your name and I'm calling to offer you a special low, uhhh, inter-dictionary rate. Uhh... Is your refrigerator walking?

These phones suck."