Boise State Recruit Rankings 2002 thru 2011...Amazingly Low!

[PlummMeanGreen]

That said, the No. 56 ranking would be the best ranking in Boise State football history, just beating out BSU's No. 57-ramked class in 2007, post-Fiesta Bowl. And it is the top ranking among all Mountain West teams, not that conference affiliations mean anything any more. So print those conference championship t-shirts, somebody.

Here is how Boise State has fared in the rankings over the past decade:

• 2011 - No. 65
• 2010 - No. 97
• 2009 - No. 60
• 2008 - No. 64
• 2007 - No. 57
• 2006 - No. 78
• 2005 - No. 73
• 2004 - No. 72
• 2003 - No. 73
• 2002 - No. 75

The lesson here: make of rankings what you will. If you think they are the gold standard for college football success, then congratulations to Boise State for setting a school record and beating all other teams in its conference. If you think recruiting rankings are for the birds, then so what if there are 55 teams ahead of BSU. You'd prefer the rankings for actual football.

http://www.obnug.com/2012/2/1/2764713/boise-states-2012-recruiting-class-ranked-no-56-highest-ever-and

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BSU apparently has a very astute coaching staff who can recruit talent that fall thru the cracks. Isn't that what most of us in the Go5 have to do? So what has really changed?

Recruit speed and big linemen with quick feet and tougher than a junk yard dog that we as posters don't over-expose on GMG.com which I wonder if we do. No use any of us do another school's research. Don't think this will change but one has to wonder which coaches and alums from other schools check out this and other college's message boards.

Few were fans of former UNT HFC Darrell Dickey's under the radar recruiting but just maybe it had its advantages?

Edited February 5, 2013 by PlummMeanGreen

[Cougar King]

[Dr. Seuss]

There lowest was 97 and we cant even break triple digits... There avg is in the mid 70's, were not even in the same ball park

[GrayEagle]

1. We couldn't match any of those Boise recruiting classes.

2. So far, there has been one with those recruiting numbers that's had a high degree of success.

3. What are the odds?

[PlummMeanGreen]

1. We couldn't match any of those Boise recruiting classes.

2. So far, there has been one with those recruiting numbers that's had a high degree of success.

3. What are the odds?

So Jack..............you............ who I believe to be our most eldest of alums on this board who has seen it all at North Texas since the 1940's...what measures should our alma mater take to change what is without a doubt a multi-years trend of continued under-achievement and............mediocrity? Some on this board must be making money off UNT, have some semblance of business ties with the school or maybe even have bids to get future business from our alma mater and just won't step out on this forum with their own opinions except that which most would consider of a PollyAnna nature, but I know you will say how you feel and won't be shy in doing so. Fact is.........If we don't ask this present group at North Texas for more, they will undoubtedly just keep giving the same effort while telling us how lucky we are to have them in Denton. Moral of That Is......since no one else in the NCAA seems to be interested and hasn't been for years.

I know from reading your posts the last 2 years that you (like many others) are disappointed that the presence of Apogee Stadium seems to have not improved our recruiting at all in fact...........its easy to say now that we had many better classes in past years while we had that pink elephant called Fouts Field as our home field. Of course, Apogee is still only 2 years old but it's impact has been non-existant thus far.

UPDATE: We have 8 footballl losing seasons in a row, a basketball program that went from what we thought would possibly be our best ever to (barring a miracle turnaound) what level it is today, etc, etc, etc,....so.......................if you are Lane Rawlins.(who at age 73 is probably not going to do much to rock the boat but rather just merely tend the store)......yet if you were him...haven't you just about had enough of this 3 ring circus which would probably have Norman Vincent Peale putting a gun to his head? Since I graduated we have not had 8 losing football seasons in a row and I don't know if you could say the same since your graduation year. Years ago you told me you used to watch UNT football at the stadium that used to be located near what is now Willis Library but Jack......... and as sincere as I know you will be.............just .what does North Texas do at this junction in your opinion of which I've respected forever?

GMG!

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Edited February 6, 2013 by PlummMeanGreen

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

--- I have found it interesting on how many in the NFL do not come from big name football schools. Just listen to the introductions before NFL games... Smaller name school players often do extremely well... they usually get more playing time (and years playing) . Some recruits think they must go to a big-name program to get noticed... not true.

---Super Bowl winner Ravens: Flacco-QB (Delaware), R.Ray-RB (Rutgers), J.Jones-WR (Lane), T. Smith (Maryland), and 49er-QB..Kaepernick (Nevada).

___Finally... very few college players (persent-wise, anywhere) make the NFL... Go to school to learn something and major in something meaningful ... besides an NFL career doesn't last that long anyway... so then what do you do?

Edited February 6, 2013 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[Keith7]

If we are trying to follow Boise State's model, we are in trouble.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

If we are trying to follow Boise State's model, we are in trouble.

Whose model are we trying to follow?

[oldguystudent]

Whose model are we trying to follow?

The Model T?

[GrayEagle]

Jim, I'll take a shot at the question that you posed but it's even more complicated to succeed than it was when Boise made their run.

First and foremost, you have to have support. It starts with the administration and BOR. As you know, except for the time of Jitter Nolen/Hayden Fry we haven't had much support from those who would allow us to compete at a high level. The last three presidents and the Board of Regents during that time have given the university the tools to begin competing and that doesn't seem to be holding us back at this juncture.

We must have the support of people in order to succeed. I don't mean the loyal 5,000 alumni with a similar amount of students but a real outpouring of students, alumni and Dentonites buying season tickets and giving to the Mean Green Club. We need promotions for every game until we can comfortably rely on an attendance of at least 25,000. We need students, alumni and administration to contact personally every resident and business in Denton and if need be, the county. This is not a chicken or the egg thing, this is a chicken thing. The people have to become involved before the winning starts. Teams can't give their best playing before an empty house.

Next, you must have the coaching. It needs to be a mixture of a few seasoned, perhaps well-known, successful coaches along with a majority of younger up-and-coming assistants. They must have enthusiasm for their job and the university. Several need to be excellent recruiters because the odds are too great trying to find talent from those under the radar. Many times the star system doesn't work but that is because it can't measure intangibles such as heart, dedication, work ethic, and maturity. It does pretty well finding talent based on athletic ability, size, speed and achievement. There is some great talent that develops late and/or has the intangibles to succeed but the percentage of success finding those is much smaller. Recruiting has thus far been the weakest part of the McCarney era. He needs recruiters who can deliver.

There are other factors but I'm going to make this the last one for now...we need a stage. I don't mean just facilities, we have what we need for now in that regard, I mean a competitive conference with recognized teams. We need a schedule that is made of medium strength FBS teams mostly who we have a chance to beat. As we become more competitive then we upgrade the schedule. CUSA improves our lot and, over time, has the potential to have the quality that it did with the old members. Don't load your schedule with either weak teams or those from the Power 5. Do you remember what our record is with Boise State? It's 3-3; largely because we were in the same conference. We will succeed when we can consistently beat those at our level of competition. We can't be giant killers (very often) because we lack the money of the teams in the Big Five.

I believe that our status can rise over the next few years. I'll even predict that it will rise as long as we have support. But to the level of Boise State? It can, but it will require a lot of luck.

Edited February 7, 2013 by GrayEagle