Pistol?

emmitt01 · January 31, 2013

With the success of San Fran in the NFL and the craze the pistol is creating, does anyone think we should/will see it this season? Not as a predominant scheme (we'll still fall down for 3-4 yard gains) but as a wrinkle. It would seem Berglund would be a good fit, defenses are still a little behind the curve, and we have a pretty good stable of backs. Might add a dimension that gives us a little edge.

NorthTexan95 · January 31, 2013

With Berglund we should see a lot more quarterback options whether it's from the Pistol or shotgun. DT doesn't have the speed to run it but Riley Dodge did a lot in Chico's first year here.

unt_rocket09 · January 31, 2013

Just another gimmick. The only thing good about the pistol is the D can't key on the back and get a tendency.

H-towngreen · January 31, 2013

Just another gimmick.

Just like the shotgun formation

unt_rocket09 · January 31, 2013

Just like the wildcat.

golfingomez · January 31, 2013

Just like the forward pass

untgeorge · January 31, 2013

We used the pistol at times the last two seasons.

SHOSS · January 31, 2013

I think we should use the win gimmick more often. Whatever it takes...

unt_rocket09 · January 31, 2013

I just think its funny that y'all really believe a certain formation is going to change much in regards to Ws and Ls. East Bernard won a state title running the slot t, but also would have won running the spread. What is key is getting the jimmies and joes in here.

Edited January 31, 2013 by unt_rocket09

untjim1995 · January 31, 2013

We used the pistol at times the last two seasons.

Only problem was that our pistol resembled a pop gun...

VideoEagle · January 31, 2013

Only problem was that our pistol resembled a pop gun...

An unloaded pop gun.

GreenFlag · January 31, 2013

I just think its funny that y'all really believe a certain formation is going to change much in regards to Ws and Ls. East Bernard won a state title running the slot t, but also would have won running the spread. What is key is getting the jimmies and joes in here.

I think it's funny you imagine things that were not written.

unt_rocket09 · February 1, 2013

I forgot everyone on this board is completely logical...

greenjoe · February 2, 2013

I hate to ask this, but how does the "pistol" differ from the "shotgun" ?

H-towngreen · February 2, 2013

In the pistol the QB is only 2-3 yds deep where in the shotgun they are 5yds deep.

BillySee58 · February 2, 2013

In the pistol the QB is only 2-3 yds deep where in the shotgun they are 5yds deep.

No, the qb is 5 yards. The back is just deeper.

UNT90 · February 2, 2013

So is taking the snap from under center now called the snub nose?

The derringer?

Edited February 2, 2013 by UNT90

greenminer · February 2, 2013

No, the qb is 5 yards. The back is just deeper.

The QB is positioned 2 - 3 yards closer than shotgun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_offense

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/11/sports/ncaafootball/11nevada.html?_r=1&

I think there might be a little confusion based on the explanation from the first video below (1st minute). He consistently labels the QB placement as "shotgun" position. But if you look at any of the examples, the QB is no more than 4 yards away from snap. I think the analyst is generalizing both into a "not under center" position.

BillySee58 · February 2, 2013

I used to think that the qb was closer in pistol, but I was the center for my high school team and I asked my coach if I had to snap it any different than shotgun when we started running some pistol and he said no.

So I looked it up to see, since I had seen Nevada run it and I thought their qbs were closer up. They might be a little closer but for the most part their heels are at 5 yards, which is what you go by.

Kaepernick's heels look like they are at 5 here.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7BCJeBchzPA

It can be run closer depending on any coach's wrinkle to pistol, but it looks like heels at 5 to me, and that's what we did.

trussbussdad · February 3, 2013

Billy...you are correct because the formation would be too deep if the qb was at reg shotgun depth since the rb is set up behind the qb in pistol. in shotgun, if there is a rb in the backfield, he is usually set beside the qb. make a text to Michigan for verification.