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I always thought Rick was a dummy and stubborn when it comes to the marketing and PR pursuits. He so desperately wanted to seperate the athletics from the university that he didn't want the U to be with the NT and I always thought that was simply misguided.

322K, 407K Estimates without providing a margin of error No reason not to think that actual viewers were basically the same From a person who works with uncertain numbers every day and who always provides a measure of uncertainty

We should really stop these threads. It’s just depressing because the only conclusion is that no one cares about us.

The Mean Green nickname was used a lot during the Fry era. There were "Mean Green And Proud Of It" bumper stickers and buttons. Almost every other bumper sticker used the words "Mean Green." Before football and especially basketball games....the fans would start chanting....."Bring Out The Mean Green!....Bring Out The Mean Green!....."Bring Out The Mean Green!".....

In Slovenia with the wife and can’t watch the game later so will just post now that I am really disappointed in how we played.