Virginia (11-20-12)

[UNT90]

I hope I'm wrong but it is going to be one loooonng season.

I hope you are wrong, but I think we are looking at a .500 conference record.

[greeninok]

We have got to get the ball to Tony more, your best player has got to get more than 8 shots in a game. He needs to be getting 12-15 shots a game minimum.

[Army of Dad]

Come on guys. It takes a minimum of three years to build a program. The Sun Belt was weak when JJ was winning it. We are a young team. It's all green and all good.

Oh I see what you did there

[Green P1]

JJ sabotaged this thing on his way out?

[Gibbz]

Tony badly needs to realize just how much better he is than everyone else on the court. That guy taking 8 shots for a Belt team is shameful.

[Green P1]

This thread sucks. We need the opinion's of about 5 new posters to liven things up in here.

Benford'd

[Green P1]

I sprained my ankle trying to kick the dog after this loss. Luckily for Grizzly... Benford was there to sub in 3 new dog owners.

Benford'd

Edited November 21, 2012 by Green P1

[untbowler]

I hope you are wrong, but I think we are looking at a .500 conference record.

So about the same as last year with many of the same pieces.

[risinggreen]

Me thinks we should have hired an X's and O's coach and we instead hired the opposite. You can't just let teams have free reign behind the arch. You just can't.

[MeanGreenHoops]

This is not a good trend for the year. We've whipped 3 terrible teams, but as soon as we get up against someone who can play basketball we aren't even close.

[CMJ]

So about the same as last year with many of the same pieces.

Of course, we also only had the entire lineup for about 7 games. Before that Tony wasn't eligible. After that CJ and JW weren't.

[aprice]

I think we'll be fine as long as we are playing mediocre to bad teams. Because we are a mediocre to bad team. Can't shoot the 3, or defend the 3. That's a pretty big problem.

I think we can win 20 games. We really only play 4-5 upper level teams. We're all just going to have to lower the expectations. If not you are absolutely going to lose your mind this season.

Losing by 20ish wasn't all that uncommon in the JJ era when we played good teams. We just expected way too much with this roster. The problem is this roster isn't really any better than JJ's 20 win teams outside of mitchell. We have no one on this team with the ability to shoot the 3, make free throws, and slash to the basket like TT. We have no one with the quickness and 3 ball abilities of domo. And whether we have anyone with the clutch play of Josh White has yet to be seen. Looking back, it really seems kind of silly that the bar was set so high.

[akriesman]

25 regular season games left. I bet this team wins at least 18 of them to finish with at least 21 wins. Plus, the SBC seems a little weaker this year IMO.

Benford is going to end up being a really good coach for us. This is a disappointing start for sure. But, expectations were probably a little high around here anyway

A 21-10 record is more than reachable for this team. They will pick it up, especially at home.

UTA has been our nemesis. We need to step it up a notch next wednesday.

Edited November 21, 2012 by akriesman

[angel1972]

Benford coaching style does not benefit Tony Mitchell. At Marquette its more of guard play that's why jw and Chris seem to touch the ball more. If he continues this we will lose a lot more games. Give the ball to Tony more and allow him to be the leader on the floor and everything else will fall in line

[emmitt01]

So about the same as last year with many of the same pieces.

Wait. Surely you're not suggesting that the mere absence of JJ didn't fix our every woe. What ever will you guys talk about on the other board?

[Mean Green Matt]

Me thinks we should have hired an X's and O's coach and we instead hired the opposite. You can't just let teams have free reign behind the arch. You just can't.

When was the last time we hired an X & O's coach in anything? Ken Murczek?

[UNT90]

So about the same as last year with many of the same pieces.

Wow. Is that really all you expected, or are you trying to justify an anti JJ stance? You know, that would be really stupid, SINCE WE DIDN'T FIRE THE GUY, HE LEFT! Same goes for all those bashing Benford because he isn't JJ. Just stop the f'n madness, will you?

It's just stupid.

If your expectations were to lose to a middle of the road (at best) ACC team by 20, lose to Creighton by 20, and lose to a Division 2 team in the first 6 games before this thing kicked off, I would suggest you stop following UNT athletics, because you have become way too bitter and negative.

[GRN-WHT]

Benford is going to end up being a really good coach for us.

That's the problem. We shouldn't have hired somebody who will end up being a good coach, we need somebody who is a good coach right now.

[greenminer]

A 21-10 record is more than reachable for this team. They will pick it up, especially at home.

Whatever you're drinking, I'll take 4 gallons please.

[outoftown]

OK the saint louis game is the last shot at this being any kind of a special regular season. If we don't win that game (and right now there are not a lot of indications of tht happening) it will be another season of: if you win the conference tourney you go to the NCAAs, otherwhise not. If you get there you are a 14th seed at best but in any case, even if we make it, we end up with very little to zero chance of advancing a round. This is frustrating and an underachievement for this kind of talent level, and honnestly the coach should shoulder a big part of the blame for this.

Edited November 21, 2012 by outoftown

[MeanMag]

OK the saint louis game is the last shot at this being any kind of a special regular season. If we don't win that game (and right now there are not a lot of indications of tht happening) it will be another season of: if you win the conference tourney you go to the NCAAs, otherwhise not. If you get there you are a 14th seed at best but in any case, even if we make it, we end up with very little to zero chance of advancing a round. This is frustrating and an underachievement for this kind of talent level, and honnestly the coach should shoulder a big part of the blame for this.

Forget saint Louis and even Lehigh. We are not going to beat uta in our next game if the Virginia game wasn't close.

[Green P1]

What ever will you guys talk about on the other board?

Nothing. They've already started 3 new boards with differing stances on the coach.

Benford'd

[UNT 90 Grad]

Nevermind. I changed my mind about making a post.

! Benford'd by UNT 90 Grad, Today, 07:39 AM.

[irish01]

I was at the game at JPJ arena. The Mean Green dug a whole in the 1st half but played very well in the 2nd half . They just couldn't get past the 9 and 11 point margin. This team is a work in progress and will get better during the season. Tony Benford is a very good coach and will keep improving this team. The team has some very good parts that need to jell as a unit and that will take some time. The best thing about that is the season is a marathon and not a sprint. I don't understand the x and o's stuff because Benford and his staff have forgotten more about basketball than most people have ever known. I don't care who you are or how good you think you are, because for the most part no team plays an ACC team on their home court and comes away feeling good about themselves. The Mean Green had a great 2nd half effort and believe me caused some nervousness in the UVA faithfull. Keep your spirits up folks, this is a good team.

[MeanGreenTexan]

Nothing. They've already started 3 new boards with differing stances on the coach.

Benford'd

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