to get to a bowl game

[mgfan]

Let me know if i'm wrong, but won't we need to win 4 out 5 of our next games because an fcs team doesn't count towards a bowl?

Edited October 22, 2012 by mgfan

[BillySee58]

Let me know if i'm wrong, but won't we need to win 4 out 5 of our next games because an fcs team doesn't count towards a bowl?

No, it does count towards our total since FCS, formerly referred to as Division 1-AA, is still Division 1.

If TSU were Division II, which some have mistakingly called them on this board, then it would not count.

[mgfan]

Great, just wasn't sure if it counted.

[golfingomez]

you can use one win vs an FCS team... if UNT had played 2 FCS teams though, it wouldn't count

[BillySee58]

you can use one win vs an FCS team... if UNT had played 2 FCS teams though, it wouldn't count

Are you sure? Teams have done this in the past, but usually they aren't barely getting six wins by the skin of their teeth. An example is the 08 Tech team with Crabtree and Harrell. They played Eastern Washington and UMass but what you said makes sense, because even with one of those not counting they were fine bowl position wise.

[Mean Green 93-98]

you can use one win vs an FCS team... if UNT had played 2 FCS teams though, it wouldn't count

Are you sure? Teams have done this in the past, but usually they aren't barely getting six wins by the skin of their teeth. An example is the 08 Tech team with Crabtree and Harrell. They played Eastern Washington and UMass but what you said makes sense, because even with one of those not counting they were fine bowl position wise.

Yes, gg is correct.

[golfingomez]

Are you sure? Teams have done this in the past, but usually they aren't barely getting six wins by the skin of their teeth. An example is the 08 Tech team with Crabtree and Harrell. They played Eastern Washington and UMass but what you said makes sense, because even with one of those not counting they were fine bowl position wise.

this is one of the most recent cases I remember... but sorry I wasn't being clear... 5 wins have to at least come against FBS teams, so, only one could come against an FCS team

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/illini/arizona-state-denied-a-bowl-bid/article_890f0cbd-6705-51a2-b34c-cbe4c84c470e.html

[outoftown]

You can only count one FCS win... unless there are not enough eligible bowl teams (a possibility this year), then among the first teams to get in after those are 6-6 teams with 2 wins over FCS

from http://www.al.com/sp...ligibility.html

A 6-6 record is the minimum standard to be bowl eligible -- and that six-win benchmark isn't going away anytime soon. But college football has now created rules for choosing teams when a bowl can't be filled by its conference affiliation or there aren't enough eligible teams for all of the 35 bowls.

In those situations, the tie-breaking process to go bowling will go like this:

1. First consideration goes to 6-6 teams with one win against Football Championship Subdivision teams, regardless of whether that FCS school meets NCAA scholarship requirements. Until now, an FCS win only counted if that opponent met the scholarship requirements.

2. Next up for consideration are 6-6 teams with two wins over FCS schools. It's really rare for an FBS school to schedule two FCS opponents in a single year.

3. Teams that finish 6-7 and lose in the conference championship game are next. Call this the UCLA rule. The Bruins, staring at a 6-6 record before the Pac-12 Championship Game last season, got a waiver from the NCAA to be bowl-eligible even if they lost, which they did. UCLA then lost in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl to finish 6-8.

4. Then come 6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii and its home opponents.

5. Up next are FCS teams making the transition to the FBS, if they have at least a 6-6 record. Big winners under that rule: South Alabama, Texas-San Antonio, Texas State and UMass, who are all in the process of reclassifying from FCS to FBS.

6. Finally, the nod would go to 5-7 teams that have a top-5 Academic Progress Rate score.

Edited October 22, 2012 by outoftown

[outoftown]

I have a question though: does texas southern have 90% of it's 63 scholarships over the last two years??? ... i thought they were hit with penalties.

Edited October 22, 2012 by outoftown

[JesseMartin]

People out here in AZ were all pissed when ASU couldn't go to a bowl at 6-6 because of the 2 FCS wins rule; ASU appealed it and of course lost. That's how I know it's correct; 1 FCS win is OK if you're 6-6, but not 2, unless there aren't enough 6-6 teams to fill all of the bowl slots. Then the 6-6 team with 2 FCS wins gets dibs before they move on to any 5-7 teams, on the off chance that that would ever happen.