Derek Thompson

[mgfan]

I wouldnt mind seeing Osborne

[MeanGreenDan]

Osborne should have been given a shot tonight.

[UNTLifer]

Osborn was the best QB on the field last year against Alabama. From the little I have seen, I would say he is our best pure passer. Give him a shot.

[Green Otaku]

I have said it since week one. Thompson is not a good QB. He lacks accuracy, decision making, and poise in the pocket.

I give the guy tremendous credit for last week vs Kstate. He deserves every bit of it, but this was just another bad showing. Without a good QB we will go no where.

So where is everyone now who was saying I knew nothing about football?

[GrayEagle]

I'm not sure of the logic in putting in a kicker who has never kicked in a game on a short 27 yard field goal and refusing to give your best passing quarterback a chance when your starter had failed time and time again (this game).

[BillySee58]

I have said it since week one. Thompson is not a good QB. He lacks accuracy, decision making, and poise in the pocket.

I give the guy tremendous credit for last week vs Kstate. He deserves every bit of it, but this was just another bad showing. Without a good QB we will go no where.

So where is everyone now who was saying I knew nothing about football?

Don't listen to them. Some people think they know it all and if someone disagrees that person is automatically stupid in their opinion. DT is not a good QB but some people love him as a player, I don't know why. The next good throw he makes they will jump out of hiding and say I told you so right back, but the truth is he has been inconsistent and is not a good QB. He seems like a great guy but I think someone else deserves a chance because DT has been given every chance.

A game like tonight is one that snaps everyone, coaches and players included, back to reality. There is a good chance after tonight that a lot of change is about to come about and other players that haven't been given a shot will be given one.

[Gibbz]

He's an absolute nightmare to watch, yet remains the best option UNT has at quarterback. The coaches are paying the price for not bringing in a couple of JUCO quarterbacks to possibly push for the job.

[eulessismore]

I'm not sure of the logic in putting in a kicker who has never kicked in a game on a short 27 yard field goal and refusing to give your best passing quarterback a chance when your starter had failed time and time again (this game).

Desperate times call for desperate measures?

[Mean Green 93-98]

Osborn was more or less recruited to take the starting job last year and he was unable to do so.

Do you have a source on that?

[cl_1_2008]

Do you have a source on that?

Of course he doesn't.

[stryker]

He's an absolute nightmare to watch, yet remains the best option UNT has at quarterback. The coaches are paying the price for not bringing in a couple of JUCO quarterbacks to possibly push for the job.

Do you have a source on that?

I seem to remember Osborn being one of the first JUCO recruits by McCarney and UNT before he replaced Dodge and a lot of the problems under the Dodge era was at the quarterback position. Dave Campbell's Texas Football cited that Osborn would have a chance at contending for the starting job. Our QB play is bad now and downright inconsistent at best. Again, I fault McCarney for not bringing in another JUCO quarterback or even a freshman to challenge for the starting job especially with a step up in competition next yera in C-USA.

[Mean Green 93-98]

. . . a lot of the problems under the Dodge era was at the quarterback position.

I suppose we may have lacked a little something at the QB position once Vizza left, but not many people would consider that a particularly salient problem of the Dodge era.

[Mean Green 93-98]

Kudos to DT in his postgame comments. No passing the buck on his part.

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[Greenhorn]

He's an absolute nightmare to watch, yet remains the best option UNT has at quarterback. The coaches are paying the price for not bringing in a couple of JUCO quarterbacks to possibly push for the job.

I agree thats the situation. This team goes as DT goes.

[Cr1028]

I blame Dodge for burning DT's redshirt in the 2009 Arkansas State game.

[GoMeanGreen1999]

He did make a few nice throws tonight but he made some that just made you shake your head. There was one in the 4th quarter on 4th down that he damn near threw out of the end zone and into the crowd. I'd like to think he could be a good "game manager" QB, but we don't have the playmakers to let him be that. I said it as soon as Berglund arrived but I think DT makes a nice backup QB next season

You think DT as a senior and having played the last 2 seasons as the starter will be the backup to a kid who hasn't played in 2 years at that point? I still don't think Berglund will ever play here. If he isn't the starter coming out of spring ball, he will most likely leave. Hope he stays and hope I am wrong, but these kids that go from school to school generally are not the team player types.

On a side note, the depth charts I have seen show Osborn or McNulty as the second string where as other positions just have a single second string player....does this mean that Osborn and McNulty is a choice?

[Travis]

"The one I missed to Delgado (in the second half) was a touchdown," Thompson added. "I won't miss that again. Guarantee it."

History tells me this is something I am not quite sure Thompson can guarantee...

[MeanGreenHoops]

What's weird is he benches his JR kicker for missing two field goals for a walk on true freshmen, but not his Junior QB for a junior backup QB in Osborne. If you're going to bench the kicker you also should have benched the QB. Both were failing us in the Red Zone..

[BillySee58]

You think DT as a senior and having played the last 2 seasons as the starter will be the backup to a kid who hasn't played in 2 years at that point? I still don't think Berglund will ever play here. If he isn't the starter coming out of spring ball, he will most likely leave. Hope he stays and hope I am wrong, but these kids that go from school to school generally are not the team player types.

On a side note, the depth charts I have seen show Osborn or McNulty as the second string where as other positions just have a single second string player....does this mean that Osborn and McNulty is a choice?

He may be the incumbent but he has had the job for two years and has made no progress. Sometimes all the progress in the world can't compensate for lack of intangibles, both physically and mentally.

As for Berglund, don't take too much stock in his school jumping. There was a coaching change and things didn't work out at Kansas, and he HAD to go to the JUCO, not his preference. Also, don't expect him to leave anytime soon. I think there is a rule that says you can't play for four colleges. That might be D1 or NCAA only and not include NJCAA but either way, if he transferred he'd have to sit out another year so I doubt that would be in his best interest.

From seeing his highlights in high school he clearly has the physical tools but the most important thing about Brock Berglund's past to me is that he is a winner. Take his back to back state championships for what you want (no bringing up Dodge family) but I respect that. I don't see how he doesn't at least outperform DT if he is given the chance DT has been given the past two years. Only time will tell though, so it should be interesting.

[UNTLifer]

Two deep lists second string QB as Osborn or McNulty and second string RB as Jimmerson or Brown.

[H-towngreen]

You think DT as a senior and having played the last 2 seasons as the starter will be the backup to a kid who hasn't played in 2 years at that point?

What has DT shown you over those 2 years that makes you think he is an above average QB, or even an average QB for that matter?

I hate to say it but DT is a middle of the pack QB in the Belt at best. Unless DT has a serious turnaround I think the chances of Brock starting next season are pretty good. Dude can run too, which give the offense another much needed option.

Edited September 23, 2012 by H-towngreen

[greenminer]

If middle of the pack QB means the kid can manage the game, i.e. no turnovers and get the ball to our playmakers, I'm all for him.

I haven't seen the game, but I wonder what the perception of DT would be if he wasn't missing these 2 - 3 wide open receivers.

We have many things that can get better. DT is only one of them.

[Censored by Laurie]

McNulty.

[Green P1]

McNulty.

Thats really the only legitimate argument for Thompson...

[UNT90]

As inconsistent as DT has been, this thing comes completely apart if he is not at QB. We have no depth at that position. It has been the biggest recruiting failure the past 2 years. Berglund is a high risk, high reward guy that will at least provide depth and options next year.

We desperately need to sign at least 2 QB's this class.