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Of course she had it coming...idiot that she was...and may usually be from what i saw on that video...BUT...she did not go to jail...sat in the back of the squad car for about 30 min...then got a ticket and was sent on her way....now, guess what? She is suing the cop and police force...priceless...what an idiot..case should immediately get tossed!

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Of course she had it coming...idiot that she was...and may usually be from what i saw on that video...BUT...she did not go to jail...sat in the back of the squad car for about 30 min...then got a ticket and was sent on her way....now, guess what? She is suing the cop and police force...priceless...what an idiot..case should immediately get tossed!

Oh, I didn't realize she hadn't gone to jail. I missed it or misread it. I agree with you on all points. She seemed like she was trying to scare or threaten the cop into letting her go and that didn't fly.

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The first thing you have to remember is that the media slants stories against law enforcement all the time. Just reading the story shows how poorly it is written and how slanted it is. Secondly, where the hell is Keene County? If they can't even get that detail right, then you don't even need to bother reading the story. Third, many want to paint "small town cops" as Barny Fife mf'ers. As a small town cop, I can tell you that most are actually very sharp.

As to the incident, He pulled her over for speeding. She is required to ID herself. She refused. He was within his right to detain her while he idendtified her and conducted his investigation. The thing is, had she simply apologized while she handed him her license and insurance, she may have even been released without a ticket.

Edit: Just watched the first part of the video. He asked for the documents, she said "No. Listen to me." That is a refusal to ID. She could have very well explained the condition WHILE she got the documents. She even said, "Go ahead." when she was told she could go to jail. They can want an apology all they want, it ain't coming.

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The first thing you have to remember is that the media slants stories against law enforcement all the time. Just reading the story shows how poorly it is written and how slanted it is. Secondly, where the hell is Keene County? If they can't even get that detail right, then you don't even need to bother reading the story. Third, many want to paint "small town cops" as Barny Fife mf'ers. As a small town cop, I can tell you that most are actually very sharp.

As to the incident, He pulled her over for speeding. She is required to ID herself. She refused. He was within his right to detain her while he idendtified her and conducted his investigation. The thing is, had she simply apologized while she handed him her license and insurance, she may have even been released without a ticket.

Edit: Just watched the first part of the video. He asked for the documents, she said "No. Listen to me." That is a refusal to ID. She could have very well explained the condition WHILE she got the documents. She even said, "Go ahead." when she was told she could go to jail. They can want an apology all they want, it ain't coming.

Rudy, you sir are a badass.

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Totally thought the old gal was disrespectful and she had it coming. I respect my elders but you could tell from her tone she was looking for trouble. If a cop says get out of the car you better get your ass out of the car!

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She got what she had coming . . . but this officer has obviously never been through a Dale Carnegie course, either. He could have just said, "I'm sorry to hear about your bladder condition. But right now I'll need to see your driver's license and insurance so we can get you on your way." Yes, he's in the right and she's in the wrong, but this officer does not seem the best at defusing a situation.

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The first thing you have to remember is that the media slants stories against law enforcement all the time. Just reading the story shows how poorly it is written and how slanted it is. Secondly, where the hell is Keene County? If they can't even get that detail right, then you don't even need to bother reading the story. Third, many want to paint "small town cops" as Barny Fife mf'ers. As a small town cop, I can tell you that most are actually very sharp.

As to the incident, He pulled her over for speeding. She is required to ID herself. She refused. He was within his right to detain her while he idendtified her and conducted his investigation. The thing is, had she simply apologized while she handed him her license and insurance, she may have even been released without a ticket.

Edit: Just watched the first part of the video. He asked for the documents, she said "No. Listen to me." That is a refusal to ID. She could have very well explained the condition WHILE she got the documents. She even said, "Go ahead." when she was told she could go to jail. They can want an apology all they want, it ain't coming.

What if she was an illegal immigrant? Could he ask her for documents or ID:)

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What if she was an illegal immigrant? Could he ask her for documents or ID:)

Too funny... +1 for you, Sir!

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I was with some friends who were talking about this story this weekend and saying how out of line the cop was. After seeing the video I couldn't disagree more. When asked to show your ID you show it, period. He probably would have looked at it then let her on her way in under a minute. She deserved it and it makes me mad how people see this and turn it into this cop is a bad person like my friends, but these friends of mine also believe 9/11 is an inside job and that every politician, police officer, or small time government official are involved in some conspiracy theory to take over the world. Listening to Alex Jones will do that to you.

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Many folk don't realize that you are technically "under arrest" when you are pulled over. You don't have the option to not cooperate.

Personally, I think the majority of police forces are doing the right thing. They will always be the "bad guy" in these situations because they've got the badge, gun, baton, and cuffs.

But, the reality is, they've got a dangerous job. And, they don't know who hell is good and bad when they walk up on a car.

There's really no reason not to cooperate. So, the old lady was out of line here. Just let the officer do his job, go on your way, and let him go on his way.

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I have spent the night in jail on 2 separate occasions, but both were for being a smartass to a cop. Imagine that, me a smartass.

I got what I deserved twice and she didn’t even get the fullest extent of what she deserved. She should be grateful that she didn’t go to jail, and write them “I’m sorry for being an asshole” note.

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But, the reality is, they've got a dangerous job. And, they don't know who hell is good and bad when they walk up on a car.

Anyone who wants to say, "she's a harmless old lady" needs to take a look at the Trooper Vetter dashcam video.

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I don't understand how anyone can blame the cop for this. As a general rule, I dislike cops. I don't disrespect them, I love what they do, and I'm in awe of the bravery they have to pick that as a career, but I've just been witness to too many situations where I see the power getting to their heads and, instead of focusing on the things that actually matter, they get caught up in putting down anyone they can. That being said, I've also had a couple of my own experiences where cops could have totally screwed me over for something I actually did wrong, and they didn't, so obviously I'm not one of those idiot post-adolescent "rebels" who disregard authority as if they're better than everyone else, and I would absolutely never disrespect an officer. Anyways, with that being said, I don't care how old someone is, someone can be completely insanse and dangerous at any age, so you have to treat everyone the same as a cop in that situation. The woman refused to cooperate, broke the law, and was acting like her age granted her some kind of waiver for her actions. While the cop may have been a tad excessive, that's irrelevant. He's human too, and I know if I was in his situation where some old bat is screaming at me while I'm trying to just do my job, whatever it may be, I'm going to get pretty irritated pretty damn quickly.

It really doesn't come down to anything other than the fact that he's the law and authority, and that trumps any cultural law of treating elders differently. I love older people, I think they all have amazing stories and have such amazing insight and perspective after living for so long and seeing so much...but that doesn't mean that some old bat gets off free when she's in the wrong. What you are and what you have done in life becomes moot the second you're in the wrong and get called on it, be it this situation or a similar one, or something like cheating on your wife and getting caught, because at that point, you've done wrong and you'll be punished the same as everyone else.

How anyone can side with the grandmother is beyond me.

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