Fall Practice

FirefightnRick · August 8, 2012

Coach Mac has the right to close practices. What I have a problem with is, if true, that $1000 and up MGC donors are not invited to closed practices.

According to this, that is a promised perquisite.

At the bottom of that "Benefit Chart" it stated..

........."In order to ensure your name in the program, pledge must be made by August 1, 2011..."

Most of the basketball practices, if not all of them, are open to everyone. So one would assume that the bold line above refered that the Benefit of a $1000 donation gains said donor access to certain closed practices for football? But I guess it could mean for volleyball as well, although the one volleyball practice I attended was open also?

Regardless, several in the Mean Green Club Rep program last year noticed that this benefit wasn't being followed up with and pointed it out to Athletic Department officials. Apparantly those suggestions were never followed up on.

Below is the Benefits Chart for 2012-2013.

Here: http://www.meangreen...TCLID=205056650

Then Here: https://admin.xosn.c....20120111152825

.....despite the fact that it still shows Johnny Jones and Karen Aston as our two basketball coaches, it also still lists Access To Closed Practices as a benefit for the $1000 level.

The last thing we need is to list a benefit on a donation benefit chart and not follow through on it. If it's an error(and it may very well be....going on two years now) it should be changed because we need every repeat customer we can get.

Rick

Edited August 8, 2012 by FirefightnRick

UNT 90 Grad · August 8, 2012

Let's not let facts get in the way of points we are trying to make based on assumptions.

Dr. Seuss · August 8, 2012

My last two cents on this subject... You donate money to the MCG to give back to your university, not to receive perks... As Winston Churchill said "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."

Anyone who cancels there MGC because they didnt get invited to a closed practice, doesnt understand the art of giving

Censored by Laurie · August 8, 2012

My last two cents on this subject... You donate money to the MCG to give back to your university, not to receive perks... As Winston Churchill said "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."

Anyone who cancels there MGC because they didnt get invited to a closed practice, doesnt understand the art of giving

Bingo.

Harry · August 8, 2012

My last two cents on this subject... You donate money to the MCG to give back to your university, not to receive perks... As Winston Churchill said "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."

Anyone who cancels there MGC because they didnt get invited to a closed practice, doesnt understand the art of giving

Well said!

greenminer · August 8, 2012

My last two cents on this subject... You donate money to the MCG to give back to your university, not to receive perks... As Winston Churchill said "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."

Anyone who cancels there MGC because they didnt get invited to a closed practice, doesnt understand the art of giving

This is not about the act of giving. Or anyone's motive. No one has disputed that.

This is about potential bad business practice...and taste. If you say you're going to do something, and retract it after the fact, it looks petty. Or tacky. Find whatever adjective you want.

It's not good.

UNTnewbie · August 8, 2012

The brochure states "PRACTICE", singular, not plural. Last year there was an invite sent out letting you attend a "CLOSED" Basketball practice. Whether any other practices are closed or not doesn't matter because this "ONE" practice was closed to everyone except Mean Green Club Donors at the $1000 level or above. MGC Membership is for a 12 month period, from August 1 through July 31st and is not specific to one sport. MGC Membership helps ALL Student Athletes and their particular teams. The perk listed on the benefit chart was fulfilled last year and it appears that Football and Basketball will be included this year but that is not offical. If this Perk is the deal breaker to join the MGC at the $1000 level or above, then I strongly encourage you to contact someone in the Athletic Development Department directly to get the official word and let them address your concern! GMG!

Dr. Seuss · August 8, 2012

This is not about the act of giving. Or anyone's motive. No one has disputed that.

This is about potential bad business practice...and taste. If you say you're going to do something, and retract it after the fact, it looks petty. Or tacky. Find whatever adjective you want.

It's not good.

I'm sure they'll hire a lawyer for every document they print out... There might even be something in small print stating something

forevereagle · August 8, 2012

FirefightnRick · August 8, 2012

This is not about the act of giving. Or anyone's motive. No one has disputed that.

This is about potential bad business practice...and taste. If you say you're going to do something, and retract it after the fact, it looks petty. Or tacky. Find whatever adjective you want.

It's not good.

Thank you for actually "getting it".

No one wants to keep pointing out areas that need help. But if those who love this program and care enough to see this program grow doesn't, who will?

And again, I know countless $1,000 plus donors, including those I rep'ed for last year. None of them received a thing about an invite to any practice.

And I could be wrong on this, but I can't imagine why anyone would consider a basketball practice invite a "Benefit" when you can walk in and watch just about any other basketball practice day you want? Who reads the benefit chart in June and August and thinks to their self..."Wow, an invite to a basketball practice". Sorry, newbie, I'm just not buying that one.

Rick

Edited August 8, 2012 by FirefightnRick

UNTX · August 9, 2012

Well, goodness gracious. I received just over an hour ago an invitation to a closed football practice! Thursday, August 23rd @ 4:30.

UNTnewbie · August 9, 2012

Well, goodness gracious. I received just over an hour ago an invitation to a closed football practice! Thursday, August 23rd @ 4:30.

You must not know Rick. (I got one also, by the way)

UNTFan23 · August 9, 2012

And again, I know countless $1,000 plus donors, including those I rep'ed for last year. None of them received a thing about an invite to any practice.

Rick

FirefightnRick · August 9, 2012

Well, goodness gracious. I received just over an hour ago an invitation to a closed football practice! Thursday, August 23rd @ 4:30.

Amazing what shining a little light will do isn't it?

Now if we can simply get those emails and phone messages for ticket requests returned, and start printing basketball tickets for big home games a little earlier, and.....

Rick

Edited August 9, 2012 by FirefightnRick

UNTnewbie · August 9, 2012

Amazing what shining a little light will do isn't it? ...

Rick

It's been in the works for over 12 months but whatever you want to believe...

FirefightnRick · August 9, 2012

It's been in the works for over 12 months but whatever you want to believe...

Since we have your attention, could you give us a hint at what the AD dept's promotion for selling out the Texas Southern game will be?

Rick

tylermeangreen · August 10, 2012

Since we have your attention, could you give us a hint at what the AD dept's promotion for selling out the Texas Southern game will be?

Rick

Flashin' it again!

UNTnewbie · August 10, 2012

Since we have your attention, could you give us a hint at what the AD dept's promotion for selling out the Texas Southern game will be?

Rick

I see what you did there. :zoro: Once again, what you think you know is completely incorrect.

Promotion - We're playing the ONLY Football on Tuesday Night at Apogee in front of a National Audience. That right there folks is one helluva promotion!

FirefightnRick · August 10, 2012

I see what you did there. Once again, what you think you know is completely incorrect.

Promotion - We're playing the ONLY Football on Tuesday Night at Apogee in front of a National Audience. That right there folks is one helluva promotion!

Hey, Im just asking. Since it took 12 months (YOUR EXPLANATION, NOT MINE) to work up an invite to a basketball game that anyone could go to anyways as a donation benefit I thought I would see what's cooking for TEXAS SOUTHERN since its right around the corner. But if the sight is instead set towards an 8 p.m. kickoff on a Tuesday night as a "SELF PROMOTER" then that answers my question.

Thank you,

Rick

emmitt01 · August 10, 2012

I see what you did there. Once again, what you think you know is completely incorrect.

Promotion - We're playing the ONLY Football on Tuesday Night at Apogee in front of a National Audience. That right there folks is one helluva promotion!

I wasn't aware we were playing Texas Southern on a Tuesday. Still, nice job of avoiding the question. And ESPN coverage isn't an AD promotion, there are schools who have been playing on TV for years and still go all out to push tickets for these games. Wow, that's about all I can say about that low rent mentality.

P.S.- This thread reminds me of a woman who does circus tricks in the bedroom until AFTER the wedding...then tells you, "If you married me for great sex you don't understand the spirit of marriage".

Edited August 10, 2012 by emmitt01

DeepGreen · August 10, 2012

So there's no promotion to fill Apogee for the opening home game of the 2012 season against Texas Southern? And the big deal is a Tuesday night game against ULL? What am I missing here?

UNTnewbie · August 10, 2012

Hey, Im just asking. Since it took 12 months (YOUR EXPLANATION, NOT MINE) to work up an invite to a basketball game that anyone could go to anyways as a donation benefit I thought I would see what's cooking for TEXAS SOUTHERN since its right around the corner. But if the sight is instead set towards an 8 p.m. kickoff on a Tuesday night as a "SELF PROMOTER" then that answers my question.

Thank you,

Rick

Back to Reading 101 for me! The Tuesday night game is Not TSU, I knew that, my bad! I can admit my mistakes, how about you for once. Concerning the Opening game promotion, can't answer that one. If you're concerned and really want an answer, drop a line to the Development folks. I don't need a promotion but I understand the importance of getting people into Apogee for the TSU game especially when you have so much disinformation floating around from certain INDIVIDUALS.

I really appreciate you trying to twist the facts, some won't ever change their spots. I'll attempt to clarify my response since I've confused you. Basketball Closed Practice invite happened last year, no matter how much you want that to not be the case. They weren't able to work out the Football Practice with Coach Mac twelve months ago. Twelve months later, done deal for Football and I suspect they will have round two for Basketball this year. That would be two invites to closed practices in one GMC membership year as opposed to only one (Men's Basketball) last year. I'll be attending the closed Football practice this year on the 24th. Twelve months from now, I'm sure you'll say it didn't happen. I think I'll keep my invite just in case. GMG!

UNT 90 Grad · August 10, 2012

For those counting, that means we are on par for twice as many closed practice invitations this year than committed in the benefits flyer. Last year the singular practice invitation commitment was met.

KRAM1 · August 10, 2012

It's really bad when people have their private little pity and gripe parties interrupted by the facts. Really, folks...time to stop even trying to get some folks to "lighten up". You prove them wrong in one area and off they go to another little poop party...it's a no win situation.

So, let's hope the multitudes that think seeing a closed practice is the best thing since sliced bread all show up...I hope someone takes roll to see if the folks who complained the loudest actually show up....they are all $1000+ per year donors, right?

Really glad to see we can all put this little gripe behind us and move on...cannot wait to see what the pet complaint becomes next. What next "lie" will be uncovered by our crack Mean Green Club detectives next????? Too funny! :goodjob: :lolu: :stuff: :notfair:

FirefightnRick · August 10, 2012

Back to Reading 101 for me! The Tuesday night game is Not TSU, I knew that, my bad! I can admit my mistakes, how about you for once. Concerning the Opening game promotion, can't answer that one. If you're concerned and really want an answer, drop a line to the Development folks. I don't need a promotion but I understand the importance of getting people into Apogee for the TSU game especially when you have so much disinformation floating around from certain INDIVIDUALS.

I really appreciate you trying to twist the facts, some won't ever change their spots. I'll attempt to clarify my response since I've confused you. Basketball Closed Practice invite happened last year, no matter how much you want that to not be the case. They weren't able to work out the Football Practice with Coach Mac twelve months ago. Twelve months later, done deal for Football and I suspect they will have round two for Basketball this year. That would be two invites to closed practices in one GMC membership year as opposed to only one (Men's Basketball) last year. I'll be attending the closed Football practice this year on the 24th. Twelve months from now, I'm sure you'll say it didn't happen. I think I'll keep my invite just in case. GMG!

I didn't realize pointing out a problem that need addressing, that a donation benefit was not being realized by several donors was twisting a fact? Your boss sure didn't think so when he was approached about it by a major donor in Hot Springs. But what ever you say.

Hopefully we're working on something to promote the TSU and ULL games.

As for approaching the department to help, that was done last week by another one of our donors and was quickly dismissed with a "We Got It".

I won't even begin to address what "Dropping A Line" has gotten people over the years, so I won't.

Just curious, by my pointing out that the current link to the online benefits page still has Karen Aston and Johnny Jones on it, is that twisting a fact?

Rick