Ready For This? Fla St. & Clemson To Big 12? A Big East Killer?

[GangGreen]

Yes. Yes he is.

It's sad how one losing moment can make someone so bitter they have to act like this.

He also hates cute babies and puppies!

[untjim1995]

1, UT and OU don't run things

2. Clemson and FSU are not scared of competition like and they are not scared to keep some of the value of their program for themselves in the form of third tier rights

3. Clemson and FSU are smart enough to realize that they are competing against all 120+ D1-A teams including many in the SEC so sitting around and looking at the LHN and being scared of it means they are just going to fall further back as other programs move forward any way they can....like Florida having an 8 million dollar a year deal with the Sunshine network

4. BYU wishes to remain independent and Cincy and USF will never even get a sniff from the Big 12 and Louisville would be a last choice after a large number of other teams

5. ESPN will not force UT to do anything period UT does not get forced into positions that is why they have the largest athletics revenue in the country for a number of years running and by a large margin

6. the PAC just signed their deal it is not going to be "redone" because the deal was signed after there were 12 teams and it is a done deal....the PAC will not be adding any teams for at least the next 6 years and probably never because the Big 12 teams are locked in and even if a Big 12 team did go to the PAC it would be without media rights which means no value

7. the ACC deal is brand new and will only get a slight increase of that and even then it will only be to normalize the value for 2 more teams or perhaps a slight bump of a million or two for those teams.....it will still be well below the current Big 12 deals by a couple of million at least and that is not including any of the third tier deals that Big 12 teams have

8. the B1G deal is mostly the B1G network which they control....it can only pay out what it pays out it does not have a huge pool of money to reach into to over pay....and CBS has no need to pay more to the B1G since CBS already is locked into what content they get rights to and that does not increase with the addition of NU

9. the SEC deal is not that old and Neil Pilson the former chairman of CBS sports has already commented that the SEC deal does not have firm parts in place for an increase for adding teams and he has also specifically stated that TAMU did not bring huge new value to the SEC and their TV partners because TAMU has not been that good for over a decade and more importantly because of diminishing returns especially for CBS which is the network with the first refusal rights for games......there are only so many 4 hour football games you can show in a 24 hour period and expect people to tune in so adding more games that you either can't show or can't show at any hour that anyone would watch and then paying a premium for those games is just stupid

and in terms of CBS that has a single network to show games and first pick of those games why would they pay more money so that ESPN/2/ABC can then air games on the same time period that CBS is.....and even for ESPN/2/ABC at some point you are paying a premium for games that just increase the competition with your own network for viewers....so the idea that the SEC will get huge new money is over blown and has been shot down by a guy that used to do that for a living specifically with CBS the first in line with the SEC

10. you left out mens basketball for Baylor as well or does going to the elite 8 two times in three years not mean anything?...I know it means something for the Big 12 NCAA payout that is for sure

the current TV deals break down like this

20.8 PAC (scaling from 18 to 25 over the life of the deal) and with several teams having to pay out up front to get 3rd tier rights back

19.33 B10

17.083 SEC

16.95 Big 12 current deals in place

13 ACC (possibility getting to 15 million)

so the Big 12 makes a little over 50K less than the SEC teams and the SEC deal is in place for many more years

the PAC deal averages 20.8 million over the life of the deal, but is slides in scale and starts lower and moves to 25 million at the end

the ACC deal is for 13 million and there is talk they MIGHT get it to 15 million with the two new teams

all of the above deals except the Big 12 include most or all of the third tier rights with the SEC teams having a bit of freedom for a game or two which is how Florida has their deal the PAC and B1G have firm control of all three tiers as does the ACC

the SEC, ACC, and PAC deals all run to at least 2023 and the main B1G deal runs to 2032 and their CBS deal until 2017

one small Big 12 deal runs out this year, their second tier deal is brand new and runs to 2024-25 and their first tier deal goes to 2015-16

so right now the big 12 is making 4 million more per year VS the ACC and that is not including any third tier deals and there is talk that ESPN would like to go ahead and make the 2015-16 deal match up with the second tier Fox deal until 2024-25 along with an increase and there is talk that is particular teams were added there would be a bump along with a bump for a CCG

so the teams in the ACC that can sell their third tier rights for value would have a significant reason to leave the ACC because KSU is getting 3 million for theirs, KU is getting 7, and the LHN was worth 20 million per year to UT (with IMG getting 5 of that because of past contractual rights) so Clemson and FSU could have about 10 million reasons per year to leave the ACC for the Big 12 even IF the ACC gets new money for adding two teams and going to 14

I'm 100% certain that you put a lot of effort into this, but since you are the worst troll on this site, I didn't read a word. Looks like it probably took a lot of effort, yet turned into 100% fail--again, as usual...

[MeanGreenTexan]

1, UT and OU don't run things

2. Clemson and FSU are not scared of competition like and they are not scared to keep some of the value of their program for themselves in the form of third tier rights

3. Clemson and FSU are smart enough to realize that they are competing against all 120+ D1-A teams including many in the SEC so sitting around and looking at the LHN and being scared of it means they are just going to fall further back as other programs move forward any way they can....like Florida having an 8 million dollar a year deal with the Sunshine network

4. BYU wishes to remain independent and Cincy and USF will never even get a sniff from the Big 12 and Louisville would be a last choice after a large number of other teams

5. ESPN will not force UT to do anything period UT does not get forced into positions that is why they have the largest athletics revenue in the country for a number of years running and by a large margin

6. the PAC just signed their deal it is not going to be "redone" because the deal was signed after there were 12 teams and it is a done deal....the PAC will not be adding any teams for at least the next 6 years and probably never because the Big 12 teams are locked in and even if a Big 12 team did go to the PAC it would be without media rights which means no value

7. the ACC deal is brand new and will only get a slight increase of that and even then it will only be to normalize the value for 2 more teams or perhaps a slight bump of a million or two for those teams.....it will still be well below the current Big 12 deals by a couple of million at least and that is not including any of the third tier deals that Big 12 teams have

8. the B1G deal is mostly the B1G network which they control....it can only pay out what it pays out it does not have a huge pool of money to reach into to over pay....and CBS has no need to pay more to the B1G since CBS already is locked into what content they get rights to and that does not increase with the addition of NU

9. the SEC deal is not that old and Neil Pilson the former chairman of CBS sports has already commented that the SEC deal does not have firm parts in place for an increase for adding teams and he has also specifically stated that TAMU did not bring huge new value to the SEC and their TV partners because TAMU has not been that good for over a decade and more importantly because of diminishing returns especially for CBS which is the network with the first refusal rights for games......there are only so many 4 hour football games you can show in a 24 hour period and expect people to tune in so adding more games that you either can't show or can't show at any hour that anyone would watch and then paying a premium for those games is just stupid

and in terms of CBS that has a single network to show games and first pick of those games why would they pay more money so that ESPN/2/ABC can then air games on the same time period that CBS is.....and even for ESPN/2/ABC at some point you are paying a premium for games that just increase the competition with your own network for viewers....so the idea that the SEC will get huge new money is over blown and has been shot down by a guy that used to do that for a living specifically with CBS the first in line with the SEC

10. you left out mens basketball for Baylor as well or does going to the elite 8 two times in three years not mean anything?...I know it means something for the Big 12 NCAA payout that is for sure

the current TV deals break down like this

20.8 PAC (scaling from 18 to 25 over the life of the deal) and with several teams having to pay out up front to get 3rd tier rights back

19.33 B10

17.083 SEC

16.95 Big 12 current deals in place

13 ACC (possibility getting to 15 million)

so the Big 12 makes a little over 50K less than the SEC teams and the SEC deal is in place for many more years

the PAC deal averages 20.8 million over the life of the deal, but is slides in scale and starts lower and moves to 25 million at the end

the ACC deal is for 13 million and there is talk they MIGHT get it to 15 million with the two new teams

all of the above deals except the Big 12 include most or all of the third tier rights with the SEC teams having a bit of freedom for a game or two which is how Florida has their deal the PAC and B1G have firm control of all three tiers as does the ACC

the SEC, ACC, and PAC deals all run to at least 2023 and the main B1G deal runs to 2032 and their CBS deal until 2017

one small Big 12 deal runs out this year, their second tier deal is brand new and runs to 2024-25 and their first tier deal goes to 2015-16

so right now the big 12 is making 4 million more per year VS the ACC and that is not including any third tier deals and there is talk that ESPN would like to go ahead and make the 2015-16 deal match up with the second tier Fox deal until 2024-25 along with an increase and there is talk that is particular teams were added there would be a bump along with a bump for a CCG

so the teams in the ACC that can sell their third tier rights for value would have a significant reason to leave the ACC because KSU is getting 3 million for theirs, KU is getting 7, and the LHN was worth 20 million per year to UT (with IMG getting 5 of that because of past contractual rights) so Clemson and FSU could have about 10 million reasons per year to leave the ACC for the Big 12 even IF the ACC gets new money for adding two teams and going to 14

You're clearly ignoring me now.

I'm trying to help you!!!!

Keep it short brah.

[forevereagle]

You're clearly ignoring me now.

I'm trying to help you!!!!

Keep it short brah.