Just listened to the Texas State Presser

Harry · May 3, 2012

Is it just me or did the Texas State AD seem on the defensive? I hate to see that and the easy way around it is to say look the WAC was the best we could do at the time and now in hindsight it turns out it wasn't. Why can't people just be honest and not always be trying to cover their ass? I think he may have oversold the WAC and now is having to spin the Belt which is a shame because the Belt is a good league and will be both tough and good long term for Texas State.

I understand the circumstances with UTSA getting the CUSA invite made it complicated but they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. I hate that the Sun Belt has to deal with a team that isn't excited about joining.

http://www.txstatebobcats.com/podcasts.aspx?podcast=70

UNTFan23 · May 3, 2012

Is it just me or did the Texas State AD seem on the defensive? I hate to see that and the easy way around it is to say look the WAC was the best we could do at the time and now in hindsight it turns out it wasn't. Why can't people just be honest and not always be trying to cover their ass? I think he may have oversold the WAC and now is having to spin the Belt which is a shame because the Belt is a good league and will be both tough and good long term for Texas State.

I understand the circumstances with UTSA getting the CUSA invite made it complicated but they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. I hate that the Sun Belt has to deal with a team that isn't excited about joining.

What I thought was interesting was that they tried to compare how competitive C-USA and the Sun Belt were against each other. I felt that was an attempt to show the fan base "See?! We joined a good conference!!"

MeanGreen61 · May 3, 2012

Is it just me or did the Texas State AD seem on the defensive? I hate to see that and the easy way around it is to say look the WAC was the best we could do at the time and now in hindsight it turns out it wasn't. Why can't people just be honest and not always be trying to cover their ass? I think he may have oversold the WAC and now is having to spin the Belt which is a shame because the Belt is a good league and will be both tough and good long term for Texas State.

I understand the circumstances with UTSA getting the CUSA invite made it complicated but they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. I hate that the Sun Belt has to deal with a team that isn't excited about joining.

Texas State AD is catching a lot of flack on the Belt board. Generally felt that he screwed up the presser.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=568073

LongJim · May 3, 2012

I think in a way it speaks volumes for the public perception of the Belt. Unfortunately. And unfairly in some ways.

Harry · May 3, 2012

I loved his comment about how the Sun Belt hasn't had a team go to a major bowl yet and Texas State could "carry that torch"..nice way to earn the respect of a new conference Teis.

NTSUEagle · May 3, 2012

Just wonder if the West U. Police will have to be called out to the Southwest...err, Texas State kegger down there tonight. Nothing draws Southwest Alumni than FREE Beer from 6-9 PM at a Watering Hole in the shadows of Rice.

Mark Gommesen · May 3, 2012

I think the Texas State Fans and AD are delusional. I think they'll be in for a big surprise when they join the Sun Belt.

Daddy Dumpsalot · May 3, 2012

I hate that the Sun Belt has to deal with a team that isn't excited about joining.

They should be used to it by now though. Not one team in that conference wants to be there.

cdizzle86 · May 3, 2012

After listening to him speak, you definitely realize how good we have it with RV.

BeanCounterGrad'03 · May 3, 2012

They should be used to it by now though. Not one team in that conference wants to be there.

Except MTSU

letsgiveacheer · May 3, 2012

Remember how WKU was talking about how they were going to be the best team in the Sun Belt before they joined?

How did that work out?

Eagle1855 · May 3, 2012

I think the Texas State Fans and AD are delusional. I think they'll be in for a big surprise when they join the Sun Belt.

Agreed.

greenminer · May 3, 2012

Remember how WKU was talking about how they were going to be the best team in the Sun Belt before they joined?

How did that work out?

exactly.

medpilot21 · May 3, 2012

Cant quite pin his level of sincerity, but it sounds more like sour grapes than appreciation. He is very confident, but I cant see TSU playing for a BCS Bowl anytime soon. He also mentioned the lower end football teams are leaving the Belt, so TSU will be in a league of better quality teams. Last I looked, ALL of the other teams in the Belt are improving. Even WKU is making strides. In his small bit of defense, TSU does have Coach Fran and Coach Dickey, and each had big league success. Confidence does come from within, but competing isnt the same thing as winning, ask Todd Dodge. Teis then made it sound like TSU is a victim of re-allignment? I have a problem with that one, and so should their fans and alums. The message he sends to them should be to SELL the SunBelt, not SETTLE for the SunBelt. He should also talk to his O.C. about making statements that could come back to bite him. My humble advice..

Shut it, and be thankful you arent stuck in the WAC.

GMG!!!

Stix · May 3, 2012

... TSU does have Coach Fran and Coach Dickey...

Hadn't thought about that - that could be one source of the discontent!

Harry · May 3, 2012

Darrell just stayed there for a cup of coffee...he's th OC at Memphis now.

medpilot21 · May 3, 2012

Darrell just stayed there for a cup of coffee...he's th OC at Memphis now.

Really, I didnt know that? Thanks Harry. So Coach Francione is "carrying the torch" into the SBC without the Draw play? Tough road ahead..

Good Luck TSU.

GMG!!!

untbowler · May 3, 2012

Cant quite pin his level of sincerity, but it sounds more like sour grapes than appreciation. He is very confident, but I cant see TSU playing for a BCS Bowl anytime soon. He also mentioned the lower end football teams are leaving the Belt, so TSU will be in a league of better quality teams. Last I looked, ALL of the other teams in the Belt are improving. Even WKU is making strides. In his small bit of defense, TSU does have Coach Fran and Coach Dickey, and each had big league success. Confidence does come from within, but competing isnt the same thing as winning, ask Todd Dodge. Teis then made it sound like TSU is a victim of re-allignment? I have a problem with that one, and so should their fans and alums. The message he sends to them should be to SELL the SunBelt, not SETTLE for the SunBelt. He should also talk to his O.C. about making statements that could come back to bite him. My humble advice..

Shut it, and be thankful you arent stuck in the WAC.

GMG!!!

If he is so upset then they should just stay in the WAC .... Oh wait there is no WAC after 2012-13 Season.

Take your unhappy ass back to Southland mr. ego

UNTLifer · May 3, 2012

What I took from this was he stated that the Sun Belt was losing lower level schools and the upper level was staying intact. Really? He also states that it will be a good place for TSU-SM to become competitive. They weren't competitive in the Southland, so good luck with that. Honestly, after listening to this and reading all the stuff out of San Antonio, I would just assume both TSU-SM and UTSA either go to the Belt or head back to the Southland. Not impressed with how either has handled this. I hope TSU-SM gets their asses handed to them in every game this year.

Daddy Dumpsalot · May 3, 2012

Darrell just stayed there for a cup of coffee...he's th OC at Memphis now.

Man, he sure is seeing a lot of the United States.

PlummMeanGreen · May 3, 2012

Is it just me or did the Texas State AD seem on the defensive? I hate to see that and the easy way around it is to say look the WAC was the best we could do at the time and now in hindsight it turns out it wasn't. Why can't people just be honest and not always be trying to cover their ass? I think he may have oversold the WAC and now is having to spin the Belt which is a shame because the Belt is a good league and will be both tough and good long term for Texas State.

I understand the circumstances with UTSA getting the CUSA invite made it complicated but they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. I hate that the Sun Belt has to deal with a team that isn't excited about joining.

http://www.txstatebo...aspx?podcast=70

Sounds like TSU-SM wanted a few scoops of ice cream with that cake, too, Harry.

If anyone has read the TSU-SM board over the years, it is more than blatantly obvious which Texas-based university located in the northern part of Texas that they perceive themselves catching up to and passing. For the moment, they do have a lead in endowment coffers, but a few of the right investments or Big Donors (like from our fellow alum in SE Asia) can change that part dramatically.

We have no reason to diss the SBC. Saying we want to advance is not dissing the SBC. It met our needs at a time we needed it to meet our needs. And anyone tell me which Belt school wouldn't have jumped at the same opportunity FIU and UNT have received from CUSA?

GMG!

ADDENDUM: Just listened to the TSU-SM podcast with their AD and I ask this of NT Exes and MG fans: After you listen to that steaming pile of bobcat manure with some of his obviously condescending statements about "the bottom part of the SBC going to CUSA"; so some of you still want to hold hands, sing kum bah yah and make TSU-SM a regular on any of our varsity schedules?

I did not like what I heard from this NCAA FCS level AD whose school has yet to play one NCAA FBS matchup as an FBS school at all.

Up yours, Texas State! :ass: We have much bigger fish to fry than helping you try to become the next North Texas at our expense! :growl:

I defer to the score listed below the green lettered sentence that shows TSU-SM has quite a long ways to go before they quite arrive.

PS: Sorry to those who actually finished this rant, but the Irish part of me comes out from time to time. Yet I detest those who can be condescending without having any earthly reason or record of accomplishment to be so.

Edited May 4, 2012 by PlummMeanGreen

UNT90 · May 3, 2012

They should shut the hell up and be happy they got a spot in the SBC. Yes, the belt perception sucks, but the perception, strike thtat, reality of the Texas St football program is that they are an under .500 team in the lag 5 years a freaking FSC conference.

Stop acting like you have earned something you haven't (CUSA bid)

Oh, and get ready for a winless conference season in 2013.

Edited May 3, 2012 by UNT90

Green Mean · May 3, 2012

Those knuckleheads don't realize how difficult it is to win in the conference especially if you're just making the transition from FCS. They will get their asses beaten every week against the Sunbelt opponents.

greenminer · May 4, 2012

Is the -SM really necessary following TSU?

Are there plans I don't know about for a TSU-Dallas?

SAGreenFan · May 4, 2012

Is the -SM really necessary following TSU?

Are there plans I don't know about for a TSU-Dallas?

I've always heard that all the schools governed by the Texas State BOR were invited to change their names to Texas State-(city name) and most said "hell no."