What does Johnny want?

rjmunthe · April 10, 2012

Ultimately, I think his decision comes down to two things, and what is more important?

Does he want to stay here and be the thing that finally pushes UNT over the top? I mean, we have national name recognition now on NBC, CBS; the trendy pick this year in college basketball already, etc etc. If he stays, he could get a way better job than LSU, or continue to coach. He BUILT this team, I think he deserves a big name team next year or a huge paycheck. Not to mention Tony Mitchell, I don't think, would have returned if Johnny seemed too interested in LSU.

Or, he can go back to LSU. A team completely in shambles, mediocre basketball league that has the name recognition, the conference prestige and the cash. Unfortunately, it's another rebuilding project, on a way bigger scale than when he comes to NT.

Honestly, with T-Mitch coming back and the buzz for next year, I think he'd stay. If he was smart and played his cards right, he'd wait for UNT to be huge this upcoming year. I can see sell out basketball games, national recognition, etc etc. Especially once the news over the Alliance comes out. But if he wants to return to LSU, he'll go to LSU now the spot opened up.

Edited April 10, 2012 by rjmunthe

GrandGreen · April 10, 2012

Ultimately, I think his decision comes down to two things, and what is more important?

Does he want to stay here and be the thing that finally pushes UNT over the top? I mean, we have national name recognition now on NBC, CBS; the trendy pick this year in college basketball already, etc etc. If he stays, he could get a way better job than LSU, or continue to coach. He BUILT this team, I think he deserves a big name team next year or a huge paycheck. Not to mention Tony Mitchell, I don't think, would have returned if Johnny seemed too interested in LSU.

Or, he can go back to LSU. A team completely in shambles, mediocre basketball league that has the name recognition, the conference prestige and the cash. Unfortunately, it's another rebuilding project, on a way bigger scale than when he comes to NT.

Honestly, with T-Mitch coming back and the buzz for next year, I think he'd stay. If he was smart and played his cards right, he'd wait for UNT to be huge this upcoming year. I can see sell out basketball games, national recognition, etc etc. Especially once the news over the Alliance comes out. But if he wants to return to LSU, he'll go to LSU now the spot opened up.

I don't think Jones get an offer, but if he does its goodby Denton.

rjmunthe · April 10, 2012

I don't think Jones get an offer, but if he does its goodby Denton.

See, that's the thing. Maybe I'm in denial or delusional, but if Johnny is truly career oriented, a massive season at UNT next year would open up jobs that would crap all over the LSU one.

GrandGreen · April 10, 2012

See, that's the thing. Maybe I'm in denial or delusional, but if Johnny is truly career oriented, a massive season at UNT next year would open up jobs that would crap all over the LSU one.

LSU is home to Johnny, I doubt there are any better jobs to him.

Green Dozer · April 10, 2012

See, that's the thing. Maybe I'm in denial or delusional, but if Johnny is truly career oriented, a massive season at UNT next year would open up jobs that would crap all over the LSU one.

Like where? Don't mean that in a bad way, but there are not that many jobs better than LSU when you compare it to others. I think of the premium jobs as Kentucky, Duke, Ohio St., North Carolina, Kansas, maybe Florida, Syracuse, a few others. The rest of the teams in the major conferences, including LSU are pretty much equal as for as pay, facilities etc

Edited April 10, 2012 by Green Dozer

rjmunthe · April 10, 2012

Like where?

Depends. Does he want to go home to LSU, or does he want to move up in the college basketball world? LSU is a massive rebuilding project. A basketball powerhouse opening. He makes us legitimate, he can get a job wherever he wants. Say he fails at LSU, his career is done.

CMJ · April 10, 2012

See, that's the thing. Maybe I'm in denial or delusional, but if Johnny is truly career oriented, a massive season at UNT next year would open up jobs that would crap all over the LSU one.

I think he'd take LSU over UCLA, Kentucky, or Duke. He's FROM there.

Green P1 · April 10, 2012

See, that's the thing. Maybe I'm in denial or delusional, but if Johnny is truly career oriented, a massive season at UNT next year would open up jobs that would crap all over the LSU one.

I think you're wrong.

rjmunthe · April 10, 2012

I think he'd take LSU over UCLA, Kentucky, or Duke. He's FROM there.

Whoop-de-do. If you're telling me if he got an offer from Kentucky and an offer from LSU and he picks LSU, please, give me some of the crack you're smoking. You forget, this is a business.

rjmunthe · April 10, 2012

I think you're wrong.

How am I wrong? The only reason he's a candidate at LSU is because he's from there. If he takes us over the top, EVERYONE notices. It's a business. There's no hometown discount bull in sports anymore.

Green Jackal · April 10, 2012

I think in the end, if LSU really wants him, they will give him whatever he needs to feel comfortable with making the move. LSU is in control of what happens next.

glick1980 · April 10, 2012

LSU to Johnny is the Dallas Cowboys, NY Yankees, and LA Lakers all rolled up into one nice package. It is his unicorn.

Green P1 · April 10, 2012

How am I wrong? The only reason he's a candidate at LSU is because he's from there. If he takes us over the top, EVERYONE notices. It's a business. There's no hometown discount bull in sports anymore.

I'd like the list of jobs that would crap all over LSU. More specifically the ones with the coaching instability that will be looking to hire after next season. That's where you're wrong.

Travis · April 10, 2012

They would offer him at least a million a year. If offered, he is as good as gone.

CMJ · April 10, 2012

Whoop-de-do. If you're telling me if he got an offer from Kentucky and an offer from LSU and he picks LSU, please, give me some of the crack you're smoking. You forget, this is a business.

Not all people would go home over anywhere else, but I believe he would. It's not like his alma mater is a school outside the power leagues. It is LSU. You can make the Final Four there. He should know, he did as a player and assistant coach!

How about this. Billy Donovan stayed at Florida twice despite being pursued by Kentucky (and both times there were gonna pay him more). Florida isn't even his alma mater and he stayed there over mighty Big Blue Nation. When you're in one of the Big 6 leagues, at a school that has made the Final Four no less, AND it's your alma mater --- I think you'd be inclined to stay. I don't see Fred Hoiberg leaving Iowa State till he either is fired or retires for example.

golfingomez · April 10, 2012

I say we give him what he needs... no matter what... we gotta do it for Johnny...

meangreenbob · April 10, 2012

See, that's the thing. Maybe I'm in denial or delusional, but if Johnny is truly career oriented, a massive season at UNT next year would open up jobs that would crap all over the LSU one.

A massive season next year and he will have his dream job at UNT, have a tremendous recruiting class the next year, be close to home, let his kids keep their established friendships, less pressure, increase in pay because of increase in attendance and be a legend instead of following in someone else's footsteps.

Easy decision, especially when one considers whats going on in the world and that he may not have enough time to rebuild LSU.

Why throw 10 years away? Nobrainer.

MeanGreenTexan · April 10, 2012

A massive season next year and he will have his dream job at UNT, have a tremendous recruiting class the next year, be close to home, let his kids keep their established friendships, less pressure, increase in pay because of increase in attendance and be a legend instead of following in someone else's footsteps.

Easy decision, especially when one considers whats going on in the world and that he may not have enough time to rebuild LSU.

Why throw 10 years away? Nobrainer.

Precisely.

I'm thinking JJ either has his dream job in Baton Rouge this year until he retires/gets fired, or he has his dream job in Denton, TX until he retires/gets fired. Either way, a huge career decision is in the making for our coach.

MeanMag · April 10, 2012

Whoop-de-do. If you're telling me if he got an offer from Kentucky and an offer from LSU and he picks LSU, please, give me some of the crack you're smoking. You forget, this is a business.

I don't know how clearer anyone on this board can be:

For there to be an offer from Kentucky or some other "better" school than LSU, there has to be an opening. Syracuse, Kentucky, Louisville, Duke, North Carolina, Michigan State, etc. already have coaches, and coaches that they are very content with.

There's no possible combination of records Johnny Jones can get next year, short of a Final Four appearance and one of those schools winning a total of 5 games all year, that will make one of those teams ditch the guy they have and offer Johnny Jones a contract. It's just not happening.

I see Johnny Jones being 1 of 2 places in the next 5 years regardless of his record. North Texas or Louisiana State.

bstnsportsfan3 · April 11, 2012

Sometimes the grass isn't always greener on the other side

THOR · April 11, 2012

i'm from corpus christi(flour bluff) and there is no way in hell i'd go back there to teach...don't care if it's my "alma mater"...denton is my home and has been since i graduated in 2000...my kids and family are here and are happy...

Edited April 11, 2012 by THOR

NT03 · April 11, 2012

i'm from corpus christi(flour bluff) and there is no way in hell i'd go back there to teach...don't care if it's my "alma mater"...

Don't lie, it's because you have all those outstanding warrants

THOR · April 11, 2012

Don't lie, it's because you have all those outstanding warrants

my only warrant was in romulus, mi...got a ticket coming out of the detroit airport...didn't want to pay it...

other than that...i think i'm clean...

CMJ · April 11, 2012

More fuel to the LSU fire....in one of the threads on their tigerdroppings board, it is mentioned that one of their private jets they use for recruiting purposes has been in Dallas since 6pm. :unsure:

NT03 · April 11, 2012

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More fuel to the LSU fire....in one of the threads on their tigerdroppings board, it is mentioned that one of their private jets they use for recruiting purposes has been in Dallas since 6pm.

People from Baylor use DFW too...