Jump to content

Aston buyout, press conference link and some leftovers

Harry

By Harry
in Mean Green Basketball

 Share

Recommended Posts

Harry Grand Master

Harry

Posted
Posted

I will have a story in tomorrow's paper that goes into more depth about Karen Aston's departure from UNT.

For now, here are a couple of important tidbits.

The press conference in Austin is going to start here in a few minutes. You can watch it here: Link

There have been a couple of people who have asked about if Aston has a buyout in her UNT contract. She does. The contract calls for Aston (or the school that hires here away, Texas in this case) to pay nine months of her base salary.

Read more: http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/archives/2012/04/aston-buyout-press-conference.html

flyonthewall Rising Star

flyonthewall

Posted
Posted

Someone please correct me , because I want to be wrong Here. Didn't we pay a million for her buyout from charlotte?

The buyout from Charlotte was $100,000.00. She paid half and some donors were recruited to pay the other half.

Green Jackal Newbie

Green Jackal

Posted
Posted

I figured buy-outs would be higher than that. At a minimum we should use a waterfall buy-out, where if you leave in the first year of your contract it is higher than if you leave in your last year of a contract. Leaving after only one year stinks for the team.

KRAM1 Rookie

KRAM1

Posted
Posted

So, will a certain player get a chance to return to the squad that that Coach Aston has left for Texas? Haven't heard much posted here from our more ardent women's BB fans who feel they are really close to Coach Aston and the players, but I believe one of our better players was "dismissed" by Coach Aston just after the Sunbelt Tournament.

maybe I missed that discussion, but a possibility of a return? I also have heard that several others were/might be considering transferring. Could be wrong, but haven't heard much about this situation.

I know Coach Aston is a "take no prisoners" kind of coach, and she'll need that at Texas. Just wondering perhaps if some of our ladies return or stay to see if they new coach will accept them...

I wish Coach Aston nothing but the best at Texas and sure wish she was staying at UNT, but cannot blame her in any way. It's her dream job and will pay a bunch more (but the pressure to win will be a bunch more as well). I like to think people should honor their contracts, but seems in sports at all levels that just is not the way it works. So, good for Coach Aston. I wish you nothing but success at Texas....

Now...

"The Queen is dead...Long live the Queen" (whomever that might be for UNT in the near future)!!!!

  • Upvote 1
  • Downvote 1
Mean Green 93-98 Grand Master

Mean Green 93-98

Posted
Posted

my question is if a head coach leaves, cant the recruit void their agreement on the scholarship?

If so, we are even more screwed

Not technically.

But usually it is common courtesy for a school to release commits from their LOI's if the coach who recruited them leaves and they want out. It is terrible PR for schools to hold them to their LOI's in that type of situation, and it is pretty much a waste of money to give scholarships to kids who don't want to be here.

As someone else pointed out, the new coach is going to have to do a great sales job to basically re-recruit them to the commitment they have already made to UNT.

GrandGreen Grand Master

GrandGreen

Posted
Posted

Not technically.

But usually it is common courtesy for a school to release commits from their LOI's if the coach who recruited them leaves and they want out. It is terrible PR for schools to hold them to their LOI's in that type of situation, and it is pretty much a waste of money to give scholarships to kids who don't want to be here.

As someone else pointed out, the new coach is going to have to do a great sales job to basically re-recruit them to the commitment they have already made to UNT.

Very few schools release players from LOI's because of a coach change and most of the ones that do, do so because the new coach thinks he can get better players. What recruits can do if motivated enough is go the Juco route if they are that unhappy. I guess in retrospect, NT wasted a lot of money on ships during the Stephen's reign; because I don't think any of them wanted to be here after a taste of her coaching.

Coaching changes happen all the time, recruits know they take that risk when they sign. You don't want a bunch of malcontents on the team, but any good coach should be able to smooth out the situation.

Mean Green 93-98 Grand Master

Mean Green 93-98

Posted
Posted

Very few schools release players from LOI's because of a coach change . . .

Per coaching change, you're right, that rarely happens. Most recruits are sold on the school, and while a coaching change may be disappointing, it's not necessarily a deal-breaker if the new coach shows them a little love. But if a recruit wants out and raises a stink, the school will usually release him from his LOI.

GrandGreen Grand Master

GrandGreen

Posted
Posted

Per coaching change, you're right, that rarely happens. Most recruits are sold on the school, and while a coaching change may be disappointing, it's not necessarily a deal-breaker if the new coach shows them a little love. But if a recruit wants out and raises a stink, the school will usually release him from his LOI.

Yes, that happens but it is usually a very high profile recruit that can assert that kind of pressure.

  • Upvote 1
NorthTexan95 Experienced

NorthTexan95

Posted
Posted

I just watched the press conference and I got sad all over again. I think it's because Karen had that history here with being an assistant with Tina and knowing some of our former players. We're probably not going to have that again with a new coach. It's not a huge thing, though, and hopefully whoever we hire next will pick things up where Karen left off.

During the press conference they did say that Texas did contact RV first before contacting Karen. They have very good things to say about RV.

The Fake Lonnie Finch Newbie

The Fake Lonnie Finch

Posted
Posted

I just watched the press conference and I got sad all over again. I think it's because Karen had that history here with being an assistant with Tina and knowing some of our former players. We're probably not going to have that again with a new coach. It's not a huge thing, though, and hopefully whoever we hire next will pick things up where Karen left off.

During the press conference they did say that Texas did contact RV first before contacting Karen. They have very good things to say about RV.

Well...I mean...what would saying otherwise accomplish for them? They're richer than us. It makes no difference what RV said or did, they were going to be able to buy her away from us. Saying anything other than good things about RV would make them look like bullies for (1) stealing our coach, and (2) rubbing it in.

NorthTexan95 Experienced

NorthTexan95

Posted
Posted

Well...I mean...what would saying otherwise accomplish for them? They're richer than us. It makes no difference what RV said or did, they were going to be able to buy her away from us. Saying anything other than good things about RV would make them look like bullies for (1) stealing our coach, and (2) rubbing it in.

She did didn't have to say anything about RV. She went out of her way to say good things about RV. I believe they were genuine and makes me think RV has a lot of respect from the other AD's that he deals with.

Mean Green 93-98 Grand Master

Mean Green 93-98

Posted
Posted

She did didn't have to say anything about RV. She went out of her way to say good things about RV. I believe they were genuine and makes me think RV has a lot of respect from the other AD's that he deals with.

The comments were all about what a nice guy he is. That's great and all, but sometimes I'd rather our A.D. command respect because he is a tough customer who knows how to work things in UNT's favor.

  • Upvote 3
FirefightnRick Experienced

FirefightnRick

Posted
Posted (edited)

The buyout from Charlotte was $100,000.00. She paid half and some donors were recruited to pay the other half.

This here is pretty amazing if you think about it. Especially if what several of us have been told about, how she didn't come to North Texas, that instead, we went after her, is true, right? If so, that means we convinced her to leave Charlotte to coach at North Texas for less money, AND convinced her to pay half of her buyout?

That's some incredible convincing right there. I sure hope we can do that again as it would give us a shot at just about anyone within our price range.

Rick

Edited by FirefightnRick
  • Upvote 3
  • Downvote 3
All About UNT Veteran

All About UNT

Posted
Posted

This here is pretty amazing if you think about it. Especially if what several of us have been told about, how she didn't come to North Texas, that instead, we went after her, is true, right? If so, that means we convinced her to leave Charlotte to coach at North Texas for less money, AND convinced her to pay half of her buyout?

That's some incredible convincing right there. I sure hope we can do that again as it would give us a shot at just about anyone within our price range.

Rick

I never picked up on that but you're right....hopefully we use such Jedi Mind Tricks on the next coach!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Tell a friend

    Love GoMeanGreen.com? Tell a friend!

  • What's going on Mean Green?

    1. 55

      Anyone else still rooting for Eric Morris?

      Ummm where did you see that UNT's endowment is that high? Also, I doubt we could have hired Sanders. If you're interested in that kind of a gamble, would you be interested in Jason Witten who appears to be following the Sanders path? We could be his Jackson State.
      GMG_Dallas in Mean Green Football
    2. 44

      MAC BROWN

      I find this thread comical. A program that wouldn't even pursuit Sanders as he was getting ready to leave Jackson State. They held on to Littrell could actually win something in year 7 is going to kick out Coach ELF and his flashy offense after year 2? 🤣. You can't give tickets away because it is so poorly managed and underperforming. If I were tasked with actually sabatoging the program in a covert manner I couldn't do it better. I wouldn't think I would get away with hiring a coach with no college experience as my head coach and retaining another coach for 7 years with nothing to show for it. Hell why aim low, let's go get Jason Garrett. He has NFL experience. 🤣🤣🤣
      • 1
      • Downvote
      Meangreen Fight in Mean Green Football
    3. 55

      Anyone else still rooting for Eric Morris?

      That is comical. 🤣 The only thing that makes things move in a capitalist soceity is money. And our Football program doesn't generate it. I refuse to continue to waste my time with a core fanbase that seems not to understand that. A fanbase that 💩on even the idea of pursuing a transcendent force with a home and other local tie in the North Texas region like Coach Sanders. Colorado Budget/Endowment: 2.3 Billion North Texas: 2.6 Billion Colorado Student Enrollment: 37k North Texas: 47 k There is no excuse for a program in a perfect position to reap the most benefit from Sanders jumping up from FCS to FBS for not pursuing Sanders PUBLICLY. Retaining Seth Littrell in the foolish misguided hope that he would go beyond 0.500 vs FBS competition in year 6 was a low aspirational budget conscious decision. It communicated to me this program doesn't care to sell more tickets nor win. Only when have ridiculous nationally embarrassing outing does this program respond with minimal conventional competency, making staffing moves. We wouldn't be debating this level of idiocy any fanboard for a respectable program. Who brings back the WORST DC in all of FBS for year 2 and NOT fire the head coach who wanted to give him another chance when he fails in year 2? My donations will go strictly to the academic side of the house from now on. Long story short if Eric Morris performs in a underwhelming fashion Morris and Jared need to be gone.
      Meangreen Fight in Mean Green Football
    4. 44

      MAC BROWN

      The long snapper had an injury a couple of games ago. I don't think it was serious, but it may have some effect on the recent FG issues.
      meaniegreenie in Mean Green Football
    5. 18

      G5 Rep up to #4 in latest CFP

      Yet they are placing us there via their ranking committee. Regardless, Tulane boxing the truck stops out of the playoffs entirely would be a nice shiny bow on an already unbelievable year.
      • 1
      • Skeptical Eagle
      DentonStang in Mean Green Football

  • Popular Contributors

  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      15,480
    • Most Online
      1,865
    meangreen0015
    Newest Member
    meangreen0015
    Joined

  • Most Points

    1. 1
      El Paso Eagle
      El Paso Eagle
      167,139
    2. 2
      NT80
      NT80
      130,933
    3. 3
      KingDL1
      KingDL1
      128,730
    4. 4
      greenminer
      greenminer
      119,345
    5. 5
      TheReal_jayD
      TheReal_jayD
      105,189

  • Biggest Gamblers

    1. 1
      EdtheEagle
      EdtheEagle
      26,589,381
    2. 2
      UNTLifer
      UNTLifer
      4,156,819
    3. 3
      untphd
      untphd
      780,023
    4. 4
      flyonthewall
      flyonthewall
      670,422
    5. 5
      3_n_out
      3_n_out
      578,480
    6. 6
      SteaminWillieBeamin
    7. 7
      cousin oliver
      cousin oliver
      448,120
    8. 8
      meangreenfaninno
    9. 9
      South Texas Green
    10. 10
      outoftown
      outoftown
      314,541

WE BELIEVE IN THE MEAN GREEN!

News

Recruiting

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Please review our full Privacy Policy before using our site.