And this is not racist?

[UNT90]

For as long as they continue to indulge in blatant disrespectful behavior towards a President, who's probably the smartest one we've had since Clinton or Thomas Jefferson, and his only sin is the color of his skin.

African Americans for Obama is racist? I'm sorry but you're more reasonable than that.

What has he done that makes him so smart? Not where did he go to school, or how many elections has he won, but what has he done.

Actual accomplishments please. Popularity contests don't count.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

---Obama's mother was 100% white and his father was from Africa.......He doesn't even remember him as a kid since they split up when he was very very young.... He lived with his white grandparents from age 8 or 9 until out of high School... He never lived in a black neighborhood until out of college and I am not even sure he ever has.. His grandfather (white) landed on Normandy Beach in WWII. He grew up in the most racially diverse state in America..Hawaii... Sorta of surprising how some here view him...

[NT91]

Let's not forget he is also half anglo.

[DeepGreen]

For as long as they continue to indulge in blatant disrespectful behavior towards a President, who's probably the smartest one we've had since Clinton or Thomas Jefferson, and his only sin is the color of his skin.

African Americans for Obama is racist? I'm sorry but you're more reasonable than that.

I'm sorry, but the color of his skin has less to do with it than you think. His ultra left wing politics and overall political agenda has torn this country apart. Like '91 asks, what has Obama done? At one time I was very hopeful that Colin Powell would run in the last election on the Republican ticket. Enter Obama and Powell jumps ship.

[Green2012]

True. The people that SHOULD run, haven't thrown their hats in the ring, and time is running out.

You aren't referring to Christie and Palin are you???

[rcade]

Like '91 asks, what has Obama done?

Killed Bin Laden, ended the Iraq war, ousted Qaddafi, saved the auto industry, kept the country out of another Depression, passed Wall Street reform and provided millions of uninsured Americans with coverage.

Other than that, nothing.

[UNT90]

Killed Bin Laden, ended the Iraq war, ousted Qaddafi, saved the auto industry, kept the country out of another Depression, passed Wall Street reform and provided millions of uninsured Americans with coverage.

Other than that, nothing.

Wow. I didn't know he was on Seal Team 6. My bad.

Look, I give him credit for giving the order to execute that mission, but The context of my statement was in response to the crazy "he is one of the 3 smartest Presidents

in history" post by SE. I dont think it took a brain surgeon to give that order. Were their huge political risks? Yes. Bit taking those risks would kinda go against the Pres. Obama as a brain surgeon theory.

Health Care?? Not only I, but a majority of Americans disagree that this is any kind of accomplishment for President Obama.

Keeping the country out of a depression??? You are joking, right?? If anything, his FDR esque policies prolonged a bad recession, one which we are still in 4 years later, by the by.

I agree, be bailed out union jobs in Detroit, not allowing the natural course of business to take place (the smart and efficient survive, the weak and inefficient fail).

So it appears you are celebrating the arrival of socialism?

I noticed not one pre-presidential accomplishment was listed. Could we have a few of those (if you can find any)?

Edited February 24, 2012 by UNT90

[Coffee and TV]

Killed Bin Laden, ended the Iraq war, ousted Qaddafi, saved the auto industry, kept the country out of another Depression, passed Wall Street reform and provided millions of uninsured Americans with coverage.

Other than that, nothing.

Dude, don't even bother.

[rcade]

Wow. I didn't know he was on Seal Team 6. My bad.

Look, I give him credit for giving the order to execute that mission ... I dont think it took a brain surgeon to give that order. Were their huge political risks? Yes. Bit taking those risks would kinda go against the Pres. Obama as a brain surgeon theory.

It took political courage to order that mission. Americans blamed President Carter for the failed Iran hostage rescue mission, and they should credit Obama with the successful Bin Laden mission. No one is arguing that he's the only one who deserves credit. Many of Obama's top advisors were hedging their bets on whether to go in. Biden was against it.

Obama took the chance, trusted the Navy SEALs and justice finally came to Bin Laden.

Obama said during the presidential campaign that he'd make the hunt for Bin Laden a top priority. He did.

Health Care?? Not only I, but a majority of Americans disagree that this is any kind of accomplishment for President Obama.

Key provisions of health reform are enormously popular. Seventy one percent of Americans approve of the provision that stops insurers from barring people with pre-existing conditions, according to a January Harris Interactive poll.

I don't expect you to credit Obama with the same accomplishments I do. From my perspective as a Democrat and someone who thought Bush dropped the ball on Iraq and Bin Laden, I think Obama's done a hell of a lot and deserves another term. None of the Republicans trying to replace him is offering a positive agenda for what they'd do about things like the health insurance crisis. All they offer is opposition to Obama.

I noticed not one pre-presidential accomplishment was listed. Could we have a few of those (if you can find any)?

Who cares? The time to have that argument was four years ago. His important pre-presidential accomplishment was saving the country from President McCain.

Edited February 24, 2012 by rcade

[Rudy]

You aren't referring to Christie and Palin are you???

No.

[UNT90]

It took political courage to order that mission. Americans blamed President Carter for the failed Iran hostage rescue mission, and they should credit Obama with the successful Bin Laden mission. No one is arguing that he's the only one who deserves credit. Many of Obama's top advisors were hedging their bets on whether to go in. Biden was against it.

Obama took the chance, trusted the Navy SEALs and justice finally came to Bin Laden.

Obama said during the presidential campaign that he'd make the hunt for Bin Laden a top priority. He did.

Key provisions of health reform are enormously popular. Seventy one percent of Americans approve of the provision that stops insurers from barring people with pre-existing conditions, according to a January Harris Interactive poll.

I don't expect you to credit Obama with the same accomplishments I do. From my perspective as a Democrat and someone who thought Bush dropped the ball on Iraq and Bin Laden, I think Obama's done a hell of a lot and deserves another term. None of the Republicans trying to replace him is offering a positive agenda for what they'd do about things like the health insurance crisis. All they offer is opposition to Obama.

Who cares? The time to have that argument was four years ago. His important pre-presidential accomplishment was saving the country from President McCain.

You need to see my previous posts on Bin Laden. Yes, it was courageous, and the right thing to do. But, it has very little to do with being smart. The smart thing to do would have been to hit that complex with 4 cruise missiles. I'm a big fan of a US Navy Seal killing Bin Laden up close and personal. But, there was that substantial chance of seeing American servicemen's bodies paraded through the street with that mission. I don't know that I would call that smart.

You can't parcel out the health care bill. Not the way it works. Americans hate it.

I think many Americans wish he had been vetted better and now regret that that process never occurred. As far as President McCain, he wouldn't have been much different than Pres. Obama (aside from health Care)

[rcade]

You need to see my previous posts on Bin Laden. Yes, it was courageous, and the right thing to do. But, it has very little to do with being smart. The smart thing to do would have been to hit that complex with 4 cruise missiles. I'm a big fan of a US Navy Seal killing Bin Laden up close and personal. But, there was that substantial chance of seeing American servicemen's bodies paraded through the street with that mission. I don't know that I would call that smart.

Blowing him up with missiles would've provided us no proof he was really dead *and* killed a lot of civilians in a Pakistani city of 300,000 people.

You can't parcel out the health care bill. Not the way it works. Americans hate it.

You hate it, and Fox News hates it, but polling shows Americans like a lot of the provisions and will be reluctant to let the Republicans ever take them away.

The health care bill is full of Republican ideas. The individual mandate was proposed by the Heritage Foundation.

The private insurance system failed us. Millions of Americans couldn't get insurance at any price. Something had to be done, and Obama was gutsy enough to spend his political capital on it.

In 10 years it will be as popular as Medicaid.

[GreenGuy123]

Wow. I didn't know he was on Seal Team 6. My bad.

Look, I give him credit for giving the order to execute that mission, but The context of my statement was in response to the crazy "he is one of the 3 smartest Presidents

in history" post by SE. I dont think it took a brain surgeon to give that order. Were their huge political risks? Yes. Bit taking those risks would kinda go against the Pres. Obama as a brain surgeon theory.

Health Care?? Not only I, but a majority of Americans disagree that this is any kind of accomplishment for President Obama.

Keeping the country out of a depression??? You are joking, right?? If anything, his FDR esque policies prolonged a bad recession, one which we are still in 4 years later, by the by.

I agree, be bailed out union jobs in Detroit, not allowing the natural course of business to take place (the smart and efficient survive, the weak and inefficient fail).

So it appears you are celebrating the arrival of socialism?

I noticed not one pre-presidential accomplishment was listed. Could we have a few of those (if you can find any)?

God I hate when "Socialism" is thrown into the conversation. If Obama is a Socialist, then Reagan was a Fascist. Of course, we both know that is ridiculous. Buzzwords are useless and presidents get way to much credit (or discredit) for what they actually do and the power they hold. I really think if we want to bash people it should be the "great" congressmen/women that do very little, unless it's election time.

[untgirl04]

It took political courage to order that mission. Americans blamed President Carter for the failed Iran hostage rescue mission, and they should credit Obama with the successful Bin Laden mission. No one is arguing that he's the only one who deserves credit. Many of Obama's top advisors were hedging their bets on whether to go in. Biden was against it.

Obama took the chance, trusted the Navy SEALs and justice finally came to Bin Laden.

Obama said during the presidential campaign that he'd make the hunt for Bin Laden a top priority. He did.

Key provisions of health reform are enormously popular. Seventy one percent of Americans approve of the provision that stops insurers from barring people with pre-existing conditions, according to a January Harris Interactive poll.

I don't expect you to credit Obama with the same accomplishments I do. From my perspective as a Democrat and someone who thought Bush dropped the ball on Iraq and Bin Laden, I think Obama's done a hell of a lot and deserves another term. None of the Republicans trying to replace him is offering a positive agenda for what they'd do about things like the health insurance crisis. All they offer is opposition to Obama.

Who cares? The time to have that argument was four years ago. His important pre-presidential accomplishment was saving the country from President McCain.

I voted for Obama because the longer i watched McCain on the campaign trail, the more concerned I became for his ability to handle rhe job. His poor judgement was most evident when he selected Palin as his running mate. That being said, I do not really think he's done enough to warrant another term.

I haven't seen him speaking out against the rampant partisanship that renders our government ineffective. He continues to sign legislation heavy with earmarks.

I work in the healthcare industry and it's my job to know how the doctors are doing. And they're struggling. You're right that a small portion of the healthcare bill is good. But most of it is not. Reimbursements continue to decline while doctors forced to take on more low income patients are losing more and more money. Healthcare is a tough proposition because you have to balance moral obligations with making a living. But aome of these new requirements to assess "quality" medicine are juat sinking doctors more and more in debt. The reimbursements for moving to electronic records do not cover the full cost of implementation and attesting for meaningful use requires six months of data that has been a moving target and is difficult to interpret. I could go on for a qhile about it, but in summary the push for the legislation lead to poorly constructed, ambiguous, and ill-informed regulations that have only made the overall situation worse.

[SilverEagle]

I'm sorry, but the color of his skin has less to do with it than you think. His ultra left wing politics and overall political agenda has torn this country apart. Like '91 asks, what has Obama done? At one time I was very hopeful that Colin Powell would run in the last election on the Republican ticket. Enter Obama and Powell jumps ship.

Ultra left wing politics? Next to Howard Dean, he has to be the most rational thinking and intelligent man I've seen in politics since Bill Clinton. I'm sorry, but the lack of rational thought and civility on the part of the "other side of the aisle" in congress is what's tearing this country apart. The John Burchers have finally taken over the Republican party and Barry Goldwater is probably spinning in his grave right now.

Did you know that back when Kennedy and the Democrats were planning their re-election campaign, they went to the Republicans (and Goldwater) and proposed that they have a series of debates around the country and that they TRAVEL TOGETHER ON THE SAME PLANE to the various stops for these debates. It didn't happen, but the Republicans at least seriously considered agreeing to this. Todays Republicans would sneer at such a proposal.

For Gods sake, we have a Republican candidate talking about birth control in these terms....."a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be." . It's 2012 and this guy is talking like it's 1912 when it was against the law to even distribute literature on birth control. I watch the Republicans and their bat -hit crazy religious backers and this speech from one of my favorite movies keeps running through my head....especially the last 20 seconds of it.

Edited February 25, 2012 by SilverEagle

[NT03]

I prefer Canadian beer.

So you hate America ?

[oldguystudent]

At one time I was very hopeful that Colin Powell would run in the last election on the Republican ticket.

If political office were actually considered a duty to serve one's country instead of a means to fill one's own coffers, then Colin Powell should be president today, and I would've leapt with great fury from the Democratic ship in a rush to vote him into office.

[oldguystudent]

For Gods sake, we have a Republican candidate talking about birth control in these terms....."a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be." . It's 2012 and this guy is talking like it's 1912 when it was against the law to even distribute literature on birth control. I watch the Republicans and their bat -hit crazy religious backers and this speech from one of my favorite movies keeps running through my head....especially the last 20 seconds of it.

Outside Eulessismore and his blatant hippie ways, I did not know there existed a UNT alum over the age of 40 who holds such views. How do I not know this of you? At the next football game, I'd like to buy you a beer and subscribe to your newsletter.

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

PREDJUDICE....... it can racial...... it can be gender ..... and it can be religious ..... a lot of the last one going around now..... Some folks just aren't Christian enough.... they are Catholic ..... they are Mormon ..... or some think some are/were Islamic although nothing even indicates it.

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Edited February 25, 2012 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[rcade]

I work in the healthcare industry and it's my job to know how the doctors are doing. And they're struggling. You're right that a small portion of the healthcare bill is good. But most of it is not.

If the Republicans are ever willing to work on health reform instead of killing it entirely, we could improve it. Even though I'm a Democrat, I was disappointed that Republicans never jumped on board to make the bill better. A lot of the ideas originated with the GOP.

[rjmunthe]

Obama is definitely a racist. Anyone who would try to act as if he were black when he's simply mulatto in an attempt to get African Americans to vote for him is a racist in my books.

[mattmartin817]

Obama is definitely a racist. Anyone who would try to act as if he were black when he's simply mulatto in an attempt to get African Americans to vote for him is a racist in my books.

please for the love of god tell me you're joking.

[UNT90]

PREDJUDICE....... it can racial...... it can be gender ..... and it can be religious ..... a lot of the last one going around now..... Some folks just aren't Christian enough.... they are Catholic ..... they are Mormon ..... or some think some are/were Islamic although nothing even indicates it.

..

And some are just prejudiced against anyone who is religious.

It's a 2 way street, and many on the left side of the aisle just hating anything and anyone who has religious convictions. Well, christian religious convictions, anyway. .

It's a very vicious political stratagy that many in America (and on this board) have fallen for. As thiss country becomes less religious, it's an easy strategy to sell. People are suspicious of anyone who lives their life differently and are quick to believe the worst about those differing people.

The Democrat party knows this and uses it in every election cycle. This cycle, especially if Santorum is the candidate, they will use religious warfare, along with class warfare (which they have completely embraced) in an attempt to divide and conquer the American people.

Too bad so many fall for this completely political BS.

Edited February 26, 2012 by UNT90

[rcade]

Obama is definitely a racist. Anyone who would try to act as if he were black when he's simply mulatto in an attempt to get African Americans to vote for him is a racist in my books.

Obama didn't have to "act black" (whatever that is supposed to mean) to be treated as a black person his entire life. His appearance made that decision for him. He faced some hateful treatment in his childhood over the color of his skin in Indonesia.

In a country where states once defined a person as black if they had "one drop" of black blood in their ancestry, it's pretty funny that you think his 50 percent isn't enough for him to qualify as truly black. I guess that's progress.

[rcade]

The Democrat party knows this and uses it in every election cycle. This cycle, especially if Santorum is the candidate, they will use religious warfare, along with class warfare (which they have completely embraced) in an attempt to divide and conquer the American people.

The people who care about whether someone is "Christian enough" are evangelicals. Most Democrats don't care about Romney being Mormon. It's the evangelicals who keep making statements about how he's not a true Christian.