UNT to Grayshirt Three

Harry · January 31, 2012

Wondering where UNT is going to get those extra scholarships to cover all the players who have committed over the last few days?

Well, UNT is going to grayshirt three players: Tyler Chapel Hill running back Andrew Tucker, Wichita Falls defensive lineman Dylan McDorman and Corsicana wide receiver Christian Hines.

Read More: http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/archives/2012/01/unt-to-grayshirt-three.html

Harry · January 31, 2012

Grayshirting article for those who are interested in how it works.

H-towngreen · January 31, 2012

Wasn't expecting a grey shirt out of McDorman, especially with our lack of depth at DT.

UNT90 · January 31, 2012

Was kind of hoping McDorman would see some time as a true freshman in a position of need. Seemed he had the size and creds to contribute as a true Frosh. Maybe others are coming along better than we are aware. Hope so.

Edit: Beat me to it, H-Town

Edited January 31, 2012 by UNT90

BIG DAWG · January 31, 2012

Also kind of suprised to see us grey-shirting one of our 3* players with the RB Tucker...I believe in Dan McCarney though...Go MEAN GREEN!

MeanGreenTexan · January 31, 2012

OK. So if one or more don't qualify academically, then these grayshirts can be burned right?

BIG DAWG · January 31, 2012

My question is if these kids can wrok out with the team? I am assuming they won't be able to since they won't be enrolled until the spring...

glick1980 · January 31, 2012

So we greyshirt the 290lb. DT and not the 250lb. one?

tylermeangreen · January 31, 2012

Read More: http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/archives/2012/01/unt-to-grayshirt-three.html

I wonder on what basis these three were determined to be the ones "grayshirted"?

All three of these committed some time ago - Tucker in May or June or so - Hines supposedly at the beginning of the 2010 high school football season - and McDorman quite a while back.

I am sure they agreed to this arrangement but, personally, I would be less-than-happy to see those who have committed over the past few weeks get scholarships for fall 2012 and I would have to "grayshirt".

foutsrouts · January 31, 2012

Hmmm....probably wouldn't have been my top three picks since they're all in areas of need. Even more so if we have more than minor injury issues at those three positions. Oh well, what do I know.

Mean Green 93-98 · January 31, 2012

My question is if these kids can wrok out with the team? I am assuming they won't be able to since they won't be enrolled until the spring...

Yes, greyshirts can work out with the team and will be enrolled, though not full-time.

BIG DAWG · January 31, 2012

So we greyshirt the 290lb. DT and not the 250lb. one?

No, the 250lb DT is McDorman, and he is greyshirting.

The 290lb DT is Sir Calvin Wallace...he is not grey shirting

Mean Green 93-98 · January 31, 2012

No, the 250lb DT is McDorman, and he is greyshirting.

The 290lb DT is Sir Calvin Wallace...he is not grey shirting

Actually, McDorman is around 290, and I assume the 250 pounder he was referring to was Mustafa Haboul (actually 240 lbs).

UNT90 · January 31, 2012

No, the 250lb DT is McDorman, and he is greyshirting.

The 290lb DT is Sir Calvin Wallace...he is not grey shirting

Not quite, pretty much the same weight.

All we can really do is just trust the coaches know what they are doing. I trust this much more now than with TD, but it is really a strange call at a position of need.

NorthTexan95 · January 31, 2012

I was hoping Hines could come in and contribute right away. That a number of reaasons why these three were selected over the others. Hopefully we'll get the answer tomorrow.

I think greyshirting is interesting because you're taking scholarships from next year to use this year. I guess maybe the "one in the hand" idea at work?

The Fake Lonnie Finch · January 31, 2012

Les Miles, Nick Saban, and Larry Blakeney approve of this message!

We're doing it like the big boys now. Got a coaching staff that knows how to do it. KA-POW!

H-towngreen · January 31, 2012

I think greyshirting is interesting because you're taking scholarships from next year to use this year. I guess maybe the "one in the hand" idea at work?

My thoughts exactly. I would hope that recruiting continues to improve year after year, yet all you're doing to limiting what you can do next year. One would hope that we win 8+ games next year and are able to get better recruits. Not sure I'm on board with this

UNT90 · January 31, 2012

My thoughts exactly. I would hope that recruiting continues to improve year after year, yet all you're doing to limiting what you can do next year. One would hope that we win 8+ games next year and are able to get better recruits. Not sure I'm on board with this

At least one of our recruits has not even tested high enough on entrance exams to be eligible. Perhaps others are also risks to never even make an appearance on UNT's campus. Remember the LB now playing for Houston that everyone got so excited about? Signed a letter, couldn't get eligible, and had to go the Juco route.

I think there is a chance that 3 of the recruits never make it to UNT (Alonzo Horton, anybody??). If so, this allows the coaches an insurance policy and the ability to take a risk on a talented kid that other, bigger programs don't need to take.

Don't forget, scholarships are renewable on a year to year basis.

Smart recruiting.

glick1980 · January 31, 2012

Actually, McDorman is around 290, and I assume the 250 pounder he was referring to was Mustafa Haboul (actually 240 lbs).

This is correct.

MeanGreenDan · January 31, 2012

At least one of our recruits has not even tested high enough on entrance exams to be eligible. Perhaps others are also risks to never even make an appearance on UNT's campus. Remember the LB now playing for Houston that everyone got so excited about? Signed a letter, couldn't get eligible, and had to go the Juco route.

Agree. Some of these that look like head scratchers to us could, and probably do, have back stories that do not have anything to do with need/ability in 2012. Would love to see all three on the field at some point for sure, though!

glick1980 · January 31, 2012

When these kids greyshirt, does that mean when they join the team for spring ball they are considered to have used their redshirt already?

UNTnewbie · January 31, 2012

When these kids greyshirt, does that mean when they join the team for spring ball they are considered to have used their redshirt already?

Grey shirts don't enroll Full Time until the Spring Semester and that is when the eligibility clock starts ticking (5 years to play 4) so No, they still are available for Redshirt anytime during those 5 years.

scrappyman1 · January 31, 2012

I have a sneaky feeling coach has something up his sleeve tomorrow and will bring in

a surprise recruit no one expects. Let's wait and see.

GO MEAN GREEN .......... GO NORTH TEXAS

Texas Stranger · January 31, 2012

Don't we have a small Senior class this year ? If so, it makes sense to bump some from this class back into next year's. That's probably why we had so many redshirting from 2011 back into this year, to give that flexibility.