Anyone notice?

[Cr1028]

Did any of you guys notice this picture in the gallery of McNulty and Cooper Jones standing next to each other? In my opinion, Jones looks like a legit FBS qb while McNulty looks like a slot receiver. Both are true freshman. Could you tell me why McNulty is the backup quarterback and Cooper Jones is likely looking for another position?

Edited December 29, 2011 by Cr1028

[MeanGreenSig]

Let the coaches coach! I can't complain about the results so far and the results are all that matters.

[cwb]

The other day at the mall, I saw Drew Brees talking to Ryan Leaf and thought, "man I bet Leaf beats the hell out of that short guy in the NFL".

[Green Mean]

Damn off season just started too.

[Rudy]

Damn off season just started too.

going to spend alot of time laughing at your avatar to save the myself from insanity of the board

[Cr1028]

He threw more touchdowns to Tulsa than he did his own team this season. He had no other scholarship offers. This young man should not be a Division I-A quarterback and to compare him to Drew Brees is asinine(Drew Brees was the Texas 5A offensive player of the year in HS). Cooper Jones was a 3 star with one other FBS offer, McNulty was a 2 star with no other offers period. You gentlemen defending McNulty and his father's relationship with Coach Mac must've watched a different season. This season was more successful than last because of the improved defense, Lance Dunbar, and Derek Thompson. McNulty did not contribute positively and the team finished 5-7 in spite of him, not because of him. I hate nepotism. This is way worse than the Riley Dodge thing. At least Dodge was a parade all-american and gatorade player of the year.

Iowa HS football is not Texas HS football. The #1 player in Iowa on rivals from 2011 was rated 87th nationally. There were 11 Texas players rated higher than that. Iowa had 2 four stars. Texas had 3 five stars and 38 four stars. It is a different level of football and McNulty was not as prepared to play as Cooper Jones was. He just didn't face the same level of competition.

PASSING ******** GP Effic ** Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G

Thompson, Derek 11 * 121.0 * 157-272-6 57.7 1759 11 ** 83 159.9

McNulty, Andrew * 7 * 107.6 * 28-51-3 ** 54.9 * 352 * 1 *** 46 50.3

Osborn, Brent **** 3 * 144.1 * 13-21-0 ** 61.9 * 127 * 2 *** 26 42.3

Edited December 29, 2011 by Cr1028

[GTWT]

He threw more touchdowns to Tulsa than he did his own team this season. He had no other scholarship offers. This young man should not be a Division I-A quarterback and to compare him to Drew Brees is asinine(Drew Brees was the Texas 5A offensive player of the year in HS). Cooper Jones was a 3 star with one other FBS offer, McNulty was a 2 star with no other offers period. You gentlemen defending McNulty and his relationship with Coach Mac must've watched a different season. This season was more successful than last because of the improved defense, Lance Dunbar, and Derek Thompson. McNulty did not contribute positively and the team finished 5-7 in spite of him, not because of him. I hate nepotism. This is way worse than the Riley Dodge thing. At least Dodge was a parade all-american and gatorade player of the year.

It doesn't much matter what they did before they came to North Texas. They're all here now and they should be judged on what they do here. I'm willing to let the coaches do their job - part of which is to decide who gets playing time. In the meantime, I wish all our players success.

GBT

[cwb]

He threw more touchdowns to Tulsa than he did his own team this season. He had no other scholarship offers. This young man should not be a Division I-A quarterback and to compare him to Drew Brees is asinine(Drew Brees was the Texas 5A offensive player of the year in HS). Cooper Jones was a 3 star with one other FBS offer, McNulty was a 2 star with no other offers period. You gentlemen defending McNulty and his father's relationship with Coach Mac must've watched a different season. This season was more successful than last because of the improved defense, Lance Dunbar, and Derek Thompson. McNulty did not contribute positively and the team finished 5-7 in spite of him, not because of him. I hate nepotism. This is way worse than the Riley Dodge thing. At least Dodge was a parade all-american and gatorade player of the year.

Iowa HS football is not Texas HS football. The #1 player in Iowa on rivals from 2011 was rated 87th nationally. There were 11 Texas players rated higher than that. Iowa had 2 four stars. Texas had 3 five stars and 38 four stars. It is a different level of football and McNulty was not as prepared to play as Cooper Jones was. He just didn't face the same level of competition.

PASSING ******** GP Effic ** Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G

Thompson, Derek 11 * 121.0 * 157-272-6 57.7 1759 11 ** 83 159.9

McNulty, Andrew * 7 * 107.6 * 28-51-3 ** 54.9 * 352 * 1 *** 46 50.3

Osborn, Brent **** 3 * 144.1 * 13-21-0 ** 61.9 * 127 * 2 *** 26 42.3

Was not comparing McNulty to Brees anymore than I was comparing Jones to Leaf. Your original post seems to reflect that you believe one should be ahead of the other based on stature.

[Cr1028]

Was not comparing McNulty to Brees anymore than I was comparing Jones to Leaf. Your original post seems to reflect that you believe one should be ahead of the other based on stature.

Point well taken. My argument is when you have equal ability, you will almost always choose the player with the greater size. That was my point. McNulty hasn't shown anything positive when it mattered which is why I question his position on the depth chart and if it relates to his father's relationship with the head coach. I can't help but feel that if Dan McCarney is not a head coach that Andrew McNulty is a walk-on somewhere.

[UNTLifer]

To the far right in that photo is who should be the #2 QB.

[Cr1028]

To the far right in that photo is who should be the #2 QB.

A legit 6'4" 3 star JUCO? You'll get no argument from me.

[foutsrouts]

He threw more touchdowns to Tulsa than he did his own team this season. He had no other scholarship offers. This young man should not be a Division I-A quarterback and to compare him to Drew Brees is asinine(Drew Brees was the Texas 5A offensive player of the year in HS). Cooper Jones was a 3 star with one other FBS offer, McNulty was a 2 star with no other offers period. You gentlemen defending McNulty and his father's relationship with Coach Mac must've watched a different season. This season was more successful than last because of the improved defense, Lance Dunbar, and Derek Thompson. McNulty did not contribute positively and the team finished 5-7 in spite of him, not because of him. I hate nepotism. This is way worse than the Riley Dodge thing. At least Dodge was a parade all-american and gatorade player of the year.

Iowa HS football is not Texas HS football. The #1 player in Iowa on rivals from 2011 was rated 87th nationally. There were 11 Texas players rated higher than that. Iowa had 2 four stars. Texas had 3 five stars and 38 four stars. It is a different level of football and McNulty was not as prepared to play as Cooper Jones was. He just didn't face the same level of competition.

PASSING ******** GP Effic ** Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yards TD Long Avg/G

Thompson, Derek 11 * 121.0 * 157-272-6 57.7 1759 11 ** 83 159.9

McNulty, Andrew * 7 * 107.6 * 28-51-3 ** 54.9 * 352 * 1 *** 46 50.3

Osborn, Brent **** 3 * 144.1 * 13-21-0 ** 61.9 * 127 * 2 *** 26 42.3

Cannot say that I disagree with you. McNulty's role this season made no logical sense at all IMO. Don't understand why some get up in arms when someone questions our coach's decisions. I love the guy but he is not God, and neither was our last coach. Speaking of God, God forbid anything happen to Derek Thompson, because I see deep trouble if something does.

[Cr1028]

Cannot say that I disagree with you. McNulty's role this season made no logical sense at all IMO. Don't understand why some get up in arms when someone questions our coach's decisions. I love the guy but he is not God, and neither was our last coach. Speaking of God, God forbid anything happen to Derek Thompson, because I see deep trouble if something does.

Amen.

[Censored by Laurie]

To the far right in that photo is who should be the #2 QB.

I don't know...in this picture he looks more like a central midfielder...or maybe a third-line defender in hockey. Long-reliever? Art appreciation is hard.

[oldguystudent]

An immediate 198.7% increase in winning percentage, and still the hundred dollar bill is wrinkled. College football -- what the NFL would be if the fans owned and managed the teams.

Know what I see? After a single season, Dan McCarney could lose his next 24 games, and he'd be equal to his predecessor. That's what I see. Know what else? After the 3 opening games, the team played .500 ball for the rest of the season. Know what else I see? Hope. First the first time since I've known of this program. Genuine, legitimate, bona fide hope.

For all I care, McCarney could put his half-wit transgendered step-niece under center (assuming adequate academic performance, of course). As long as the wins keep increasing, I'm all good.

[untcampbell]

Admitting naïveté here, but I always find it a challenge to think that any coach would put his chance at the "next big job" at risk to intentionally play the kid with less ability just because said coach played football with said kid's father. There is a lot of money to be made in coaching these days. I don't fault anyone's sense of loyalty for putting his own family's financial future ahead of a friendship with an old football buddy. It may be an easy out to say Coach played McNulty because Coach knows his dad real well. I don't know what it is, but I suspect there is some other reason. Coach can coach....I will leave it at that.

GMG

[island eagle]

Admitting naïveté here, but I always find it a challenge to think that any coach would put his chance at the "next big job" at risk to intentionally play the kid with less ability just because said coach played football with said kid's father. There is a lot of money to be made in coaching these days. I don't fault anyone's sense of loyalty for putting his own family's financial future ahead of a friendship with an old football buddy. It may be an easy out to say Coach played McNulty because Coach knows his dad real well. I don't know what it is, but I suspect there is some other reason. Coach can coach....I will leave it at that.

GMG

I agree. No coach in his right mind would jeopardize his salary or his reputation to put in a player out of friendship. I find the idea laughable. Would you jeopardize your job by hiring a worker to a key position who wasn't qualified (even the son of a good friend) when you know that your boss and backers are monitoring your own position very closely? Give Coach Mac some credit for both intelligence and integrity.

[UNT90]

I think Coach Mac's decision has far more to do with Osbourn's underperformance than any friendship he may have with MCNaulty's father.

That said, it is human nature to view the performance of a kid you have known and liked the kid's whole life more favorably than a kid that is just another recruit. It will occur on a subconscious level if not a conscious level. As long as Chico is making the decision to start McNaulty with zero imput from Coach Mac, then there is nothing to worry about. Of course, there is no way to know if this is happening or not.

Then again, maybe coach Mac just wants a QB nicknamed Mac and thinks that would be neater than snot.

[GreenMachine]

For all I care, McCarney could put his half-wit transgendered step-niece under center (

Hook me up!

[greenjoe]

I think I only missed 2 of Coach McCarney's shows this season, but over and over he stated that McNulty has better practices than Osborn. Since practices are closed we can either believe him or consider him a out and out liar who for some reason is keeping the better QB on the bench.

Since he gets paid to coach and I have to pay to watch, I'll just go along with what Coach MaC says.

[UNT90]

I think I only missed 2 of Coach McCarney's shows this season, but over and over he stated that McNulty has better practices than Osborn.

You are the best listener ever to pull that nugget out of all the Wisconsin, Iowa St., S. Florida, Florida talk, not to mention to be able to stay awake through the lengthy coach speak segments.

I admire your stick-to-it-ness.

Not a shot. I'm completely serious.

Edited December 29, 2011 by UNT90

[shaft]

I call for a man card ruling. I don't even comment on my friends Facebook photos and this guy wants a thread about a photo of our back QBs.

[DJstars21]

I agree. No coach in his right mind would jeopardize his salary or his reputation to put in a player out of friendship. I find the idea laughable. Would you jeopardize your job by hiring a worker to a key position who wasn't qualified (even the son of a good friend) when you know that your boss and backers are monitoring your own position very closely? Give Coach Mac some credit for both intelligence and integrity.

I don't know about that. If said player is within a reasonably close range of skill when compared to his competitors, he will likely get the nod if there are long standing relationships with the father. Considering they are all relatively green, it wouldn't be tough to justify(practice)...

[MeanGreenDan]

I don't know about that. If said player is within a reasonably close range of skill when compared to his competitors, he will likely get the nod if there are long standing relationships with the father. Considering they are all relatively green, it wouldn't be tough to justify(practice)...

This is kind of what I was thinking...

[rcade]

We can judge quarterback skill based on photos? That's going to save a fortune in recruiting.