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How horrible is life when the Super Pit becomes the inferior facility when comparing basketball with football?

I am in no way complaining about the Super Pit as it is one of the better facilities to watch a game in this part of the country.

There is just some outdated technology that the university may want to improve; sound system, video boards, and probably most of all, lighting.

The current lighting system is far too yellowish and detracts somewhat from the viewing experience.med_gallery_1_67_112557.jpg

Maybe the Super Pit needs a sponsor.

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Sound should be number one on the list. The Pit sounds like someone is speaking in to a child's karaoke machine.

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I think it would be a good idea to upgrade the entertainment factor (sound, music,video boards, cool/funny videos) for those people who aren't really interested in the game. At least the atmosphere could give them a good reason to come.

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A few things I noticed @ the Jackson St. game, first off, the seats are too small. I am 200 pounds and it was difficult to get comfortable in those seats, can't even imagine what it would be like for someone bigger. The stadiums needs a drastic renovation. They need to gut the press seats, eliminate the bar around the court, put in seats closer to the action, there is absolutely nothing along the east/west walls at the top, why not put in a couple suites? Obviously, sound is terrible, and there's two video boards the size of my HDTV on each side. These things need to be improved because it just looks bad, it's funny how I didn't notice all these things until we had Apogee.

If baseball is number one, then basketball stadium renovation needs to be number two. And we need to get these things done ASAP.

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A few things I noticed @ the Jackson St. game, first off, the seats are too small. I am 200 pounds and it was difficult to get comfortable in those seats, can't even imagine what it would be like for someone bigger. The stadiums needs a drastic renovation. They need to gut the press seats, eliminate the bar around the court, put in seats closer to the action, there is absolutely nothing along the east/west walls at the top, why not put in a couple suites? Obviously, sound is terrible, and there's two video boards the size of my HDTV on each side. These things need to be improved because it just looks bad, it's funny how I didn't notice all these things until we had Apogee.

If baseball is number one, then basketball stadium renovation needs to be number two. And we need to get these things done ASAP.

I agree.. when I have seen us play at home on tv it looks like there is literally no one at the stadium because of the way the seating is done! Let fans get closer to the action and really bring that excitement factor! The basketball team is 10 times more exciting then the football but the atmosphere is just a dud. The Pep band is great!!!!! But we really need some nice music blaring through decent speakers...

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"too yellowish" - accurate or not - is completely new to me. Never heard that complaint before anywhere.

The arena floor is lighted by 64 one-thousand-watt mercury vapor lamps. Mercury vapor lamps produce an altered tint to colors, especially green. Per Wikipedia, mercury lamps produce white light with a bluish-green tint due to mercury's combination of spectral lines. This is not flattering to human skin color, so such lamps are not used in retail stores." Tonight, wear olive green pants to the game, they will appear light brown under those lights. Mercury vapor lamps are also by law being phased out because of their incredibly poor efficiency. It has been against federal law since December 2008 to install new mercury vapor lamp fixtures because the energy required could be substantially better utilized with more energy efficient lighting systems.

So, the lighting isn't 'green', and it fouls our color green. It may be time for the university to replace the lighting system.

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The arena floor is lighted by 64 one-thousand-watt mercury vapor lamps. Mercury vapor lamps produce an altered tint to colors, especially green. Per Wikipedia, mercury lamps produce white light with a bluish-green tint due to mercury's combination of spectral lines. This is not flattering to human skin color, so such lamps are not used in retail stores." Tonight, wear olive green pants to the game, they will appear light brown under those lights. Mercury vapor lamps are also by law being phased out because of their incredibly poor efficiency. It has been against federal law since December 2008 to install new mercury vapor lamp fixtures because the energy required could be substantially better utilized with more energy efficient lighting systems.

So, the lighting isn't 'green', and it fouls our color green. It may be time for the university to replace the lighting system.

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I believe the bulbs we are using are metal hallide, which is what is used in just about every athletic facility (pro, college, high school, etc) including Apogee Stadium. The 'color' of the white can vary slightly from bulb to bulb.

Mecury vapor bulbs produce a very obvious blue colored light. These bulbs are used almost exclusively in street lamps by your local municipality. I highly doubt the athletic department is using Mecury vapor bulbs for the floor lighting. I know there are some Mercury vapor bulbs used in the outside lighting of the Super Pit. There is a chance there are some Mecury vapor bulbs in the house lights but the floor lights are most likely Metal Halide.

I believe the yellow comes from shots including the floor, which adds an obvious yellow tinge to a photo.

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I believe the bulbs we are using are metal hallide, which is what is used in just about every athletic facility (pro, college, high school, etc) including Apogee Stadium. The 'color' of the white can vary slightly from bulb to bulb.

Mecury vapor bulbs produce a very obvious blue colored light. These bulbs are used almost exclusively in street lamps by your local municipality. I highly doubt the athletic department is using Mecury vapor bulbs for the floor lighting. I know there are some Mercury vapor bulbs used in the outside lighting of the Super Pit. There is a chance there are some Mecury vapor bulbs in the house lights but the floor lights are most likely Metal Halide.

I believe the yellow comes from shots including the floor, which adds an obvious yellow tinge to a photo.

Correct.

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Mecury vapor bulbs produce a very obvious blue colored light. These bulbs are used almost exclusively in street lamps by your local municipality. I highly doubt the athletic department is using Mecury vapor bulbs for the floor lighting. I know there are some Mercury vapor bulbs used in the outside lighting of the Super Pit. There is a chance there are some Mecury vapor bulbs in the house lights but the floor lights are most likely Metal Halide.

Per the information provided to Wikipedia: The arena floor is lighted by 64 one-thousand-watt mercury vapor lamps. Super Pit

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Per the information provided to Wikipedia: The arena floor is lighted by 64 one-thousand-watt mercury vapor lamps. Super Pit

So you trust ncaawiki.com (not wikipedia.org) to have all the correct facts? You do understand that the site has listed us as using "64 one-thousand-watt mercury vapor lamps" since 13:58, 18 December 2006 and that the person who appeared to add this information (UCbearcat4ever) is not even related to North Texas or the Athletic department? Who knows where this person got the information that was posted to ncaawiki.com back in 2006.

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So you trust ncaawiki.com (not wikipedia.org) to have all the correct facts? You do understand that the site has listed us as using "64 one-thousand-watt mercury vapor lamps" since 13:58, 18 December 2006 and that the person who appeared to add this information (UCbearcat4ever) is not even related to North Texas or the Athletic department? Who knows where this person got the information that was posted to ncaawiki.com back in 2006.

Bro, if it's on the Internet, it's true.

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Bro, if it's on the Internet, it's true.

So you are saying you can confirm that Craig James killed 5 hookers while at SMU?

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So you trust ncaawiki.com (not wikipedia.org) to have all the correct facts? You do understand that the site has listed us as using "64 one-thousand-watt mercury vapor lamps" since 13:58, 18 December 2006 and that the person who appeared to add this information (UCbearcat4ever) is not even related to North Texas or the Athletic department? Who knows where this person got the information that was posted to ncaawiki.com back in 2006.

UCbearcat4ever appears to not be related to many of the almost hundreds of articles he contributes to. In my eyes that actually lends him some credibility, because he is actively involved in editing a ton of college related articles. Still, it is a wiki and I wish there was something better out there.

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UCbearcat4ever appears to not be related to many of the almost hundreds of articles he contributes to. In my eyes that actually lends him some credibility, because he is actively involved in editing a ton of college related articles. Still, it is a wiki and I wish there was something better out there.

I checked the athletics website and there was no mention of the lighting system specifications. Metal Halide and Mecury Vapory bulbs produce two very distinct temperatures (commonly referred to as color) of light. To say that the Super Pit uses Mercury Vapor bulbs means Apogee stadium and all other facilities (rec. fields) use Mercury Vapor bulbs as well.

Metal Halide are the most commonly used bulbs for lighting of athletic facilities because they produce the most true "white" that works well with still and motion photography.

Without knowing the specifications of the light fixtures and the bulbs themselves, we are stuck using whatever someone has thrown out there and assume it is correct.

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I checked the athletics website and there was no mention of the lighting system specifications. Metal Halide and Mecury Vapory bulbs produce two very distinct temperatures (commonly referred to as color) of light. To say that the Super Pit uses Mercury Vapor bulbs means Apogee stadium and all other facilities (rec. fields) use Mercury Vapor bulbs as well.

Metal Halide are the most commonly used bulbs for lighting of athletic facilities because they produce the most true "white" that works well with still and motion photography.

Without knowing the specifications of the light fixtures and the bulbs themselves, we are stuck using whatever someone has thrown out there and assume it is correct.

Where is Vito on this!?

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WOW, way to much discussion on the bulb type. Still, no one has addressed why we are using a child's karaoke machine to broadcast sound.

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