UNT Breaks Attendance Record

[UNTflyer]

http://m.dentonrc.com/drc/db_23088/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=FTls6jX5

[untbowler]

Good for UNT, but never want to hear our fans complain about SMU or others fudging attendance numbers, guess RV and staff will now get their bonuses since they managed 19K in a new stadium

[MDH]

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[shaft]

So we averaged 18.8k per game, not too shabby.

[bleedgreen4ever]

So we averaged 18.8k per game, not too shabby.

If that was the REAL average, it would have been decent and broken the record. But, as others have noted, those numbers have been jacked up a little, especially yesterday, no way there were 15k+ in the stadium yesterday.

[drycreek]

If that was the REAL average, it would have been decent and broken the record. But, as others have noted, those numbers have been jacked up a little, especially yesterday, no way there were 15k+ in the stadium yesterday.

find something else to complain about----whats wrong with doing what everyone else does?????

[Green Mean]

find something else to complain about----whats wrong with doing what everyone else does?????

No kidding. Attendance numbers are always probably skewed and it happens in college and in professional sports. Official attendance is the most important number because those are the number of tickets sold or what not. Just keep on winning and give people a reason to show up and we won't be creating countless threads on a dead horse.

[GrayEagle]

No kidding. Attendance numbers are always probably skewed and it happens in college and in professional sports. Official attendance is the most important number because those are the number of tickets sold or what not. Just keep on winning and give people a reason to show up and we won't be creating countless threads on a dead horse.

This was the worst case of skewing numbers that we've done. It was overstated by about three times (or more) the number in attendance. Had we been basing our numbers on tickets sold all along then it wouldn't look so bad but playing catchup all at once stinks.

It's the last part of your statement that rankles me a little bit. If winning was the only thing that gave people a reason to show up then we should schedule every patsy in the FBS. We show up because they're our players. They're entertaining and they give it their best on the practice fields and in the games. Non-attendance is a slap in the face to the players. What recruit (and there were a number of them there yesterday) wants to come play before an empty stadium?

If K-State had used your criterion then they would've dropped football years ago but they kept getting 30-40,000 every game with winless seasons. The wins eventually came and now they are perennially a Top 50 team; often better. So the reverse of the "keep winning and they will come" axiom is also true..."keep coming and they will win."

[shaft]

No that's not true; attendance does not create wins.

The NCAA sets the rules for how attendance is counted. They require scans at the game, but also allow season ticket sales as part of official attendance. The same rule applies to every D1 school.

[GrayEagle]

No that's not true; attendance does not create wins.

The NCAA sets the rules for how attendance is counted. They require scans at the game, but also allow season ticket sales as part of official attendance. The same rule applies to every D1 school.

Good attendance acquires good coaches and good players. IMO, that eventually createswins. No disagreement on the second statement; only that we don't have 12,000 paid over what was there Saturday.

[emmitt01]

No that's not true; attendance does not create wins

False. It is well established that packed stadiums, full of hyperactive fans, can seemingly will teams to victories. There is a reason that our new stadium, with its better acoustics, caused teams to call timeouts early in the season when our fans could be bothered to show up. Yes, attendance does "create" wins. You'd be a fool to argue that two evenly matched teams (or even a home team that is slightly less talented) would have the same results in front of 3,000 fans as 30,000 fans.

[DeepGreen]

During this re-shuffling of conferences, with an eye on "moving up", wouldn't it have been nice to see 17-18K fans in the stands for our final home game? I'll bet CUSA and the MWC watch this stuff. And what a nice way to send out our seniors.

Shame on our fans and the students!

Edited December 5, 2011 by DeepGreen

[oldguystudent]

This would have worked out much better had they built the stadium with a capacity of 50,000.

[dmaxel]

This would have worked out much better had they built the stadium with a capacity of 50,000.

Can Apogee even be expanded to 50,000?

[Green P1]

Can Apogee even be expanded to 50,000?

Yes, but only if we take it apart and move it to a campus with a decent fanbase.