The SBC will kill our program...

PlummMeanGreen · November 23, 2011

We won under Dickey and people didn't flock to Fouts regularly because Fouts was a dump.

We had absolutely no chance to build a fan base in each of our 4 bowl seasons because we started almost each one of those seasons at 0 & 6 or 1 & 5, etc....Doesn't take a genius to understand that by the time the SBC season began for UNT, many fans were already thinking basketball.

So yes, the SBC was good for North Texas during that time for sure until it passed us by with better recruiting and the maturing of schools not too far removed from a lesser NCAA classification.

Dammit folks, we have to get out of this league because of the perception it has with most of our alums and apparently our student body, too, who (granted, in the midst of our 8'th losing season in a row) but still ignored coming to the best college football stadium in this region and chosing not to attend a Sun Belt league game. No, its not the culture we want, but it is the one we have at present.

GMG!

Edited November 23, 2011 by PlummMeanGreen

CaribbeanGreen · November 24, 2011

The thing is, if we win 4 straight Belt titles and go to bowl games every year, our crowds WILL reflect it regardless of the non-conference.... comparing it to the Dickey area directly overlooks the fact that back then we had ZERO game day atmosphere. No tailgating, minimal commitment from a number of involved parties, horrible facilities, etc.

Even with all our shortcomings, we have SO MUCH MORE to work with in place on seemingly every level than our championship teams did. It's not even close in any way imaginable.

I just don't think blaming the Sun Belt for our not filling the stadium in the early 2000's tells the story. We beat Baylor 52-14. We beat Texas Tech before we were even Sun Belt good. We played tune up games against the likes of Samford and Nicholls St.... but you absolutely can not compare the scene and the infrastructure around those teams with what you have today. Do that again, and you're gonna be 20k+ every week without blinking.

UNTcrazy727 · November 24, 2011

I think ticket sales will improve because of how the team has played this season. We're not at rock bottom any more. We have a realistic shot next year at taking the Belt.

Hate to say it, but I think you're wrong. At the end of the day we're going to have our 7th(?) straight losing season. People in DFW only support winners. Just look at our pro teams and TCU

TheTastyGreek · November 24, 2011

Doesn't take a genius to understand that by the time the SBC season began for UNT, many fans were already thinking basketball.

They were? "Many"? Back in 2001-04?

rjmunthe · November 24, 2011

So...did you not get into Houston? Did they not like your ***'n essay?

What happened, big guy?

No, you stupid imbecile, I was offered a scholarship to Cougar High but I decided UNT was better for my major, jackass.

TheTastyGreek · November 24, 2011

No, you stupid imbecile, I was offered a scholarship to Cougar High but I decided UNT was better for my major, jackass.

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TheTastyGreek · November 24, 2011

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CMJ · November 24, 2011

CaribbeanGreen · November 24, 2011

Jeez. First we can't cuss out the punter while explaining our defense won't make a single stop, now this.

Also, More tribestros. That was the best thing since LoveMG.

MeanMag · November 24, 2011

I didn't think it was that bad. Quoner had it coming.

Afterall, you play with fire; you get the horns.

Edited November 24, 2011 by MeanMag

UNTLifer · November 24, 2011

I agree with MeanMag. Seems to me, he just gave what he had received, outside of name-calling. Then again, I'm not a moderator so I won't argue the point.

shaft · November 24, 2011

We had absolutely no chance to build a fan base in each of our 4 bowl seasons because we started almost each one of those seasons at 0 & 6 or 1 & 5, etc....Doesn't take a genius to understand that by the time the SBC season began for UNT, many fans were already thinking basketball.

GMG!

1. We didn't start out every season 0-6. I remember a certain win over Baylor that was a big deal.

2. If that was true, wouldn't basketball have had a better turn out.

Quit blaming the Belt. While teams like MTSU might not be the biggest draw, we've played these teams long enough to create familiarity with the fan base.

The reality is we need payday games to pay the bills for the entire athletic program.

TheTastyGreek · November 24, 2011

I agree with MeanMag. Seems to me, he just gave what he had received, outside of name-calling. Then again, I'm not a moderator so I won't argue the point.

I'm generally inclined to let people be needled as aggressively as they've shown they'll dish out. Up to the point of profane attacks or name calling.

I don't keep a hit list or anything, but this definitely isn't the first posting suspension I've issued for taking a personal disagreement over that line.

Green P1 · November 24, 2011

I'm generally inclined to let people be needled as aggressively as they've shown they'll dish out. Up to the point of profane attacks or name calling.

I don't keep a hit list or anything, but this definitely isn't the first posting suspension I've issued for taking a personal disagreement over that line.

Plus it was your soulmate he was callin names!!! I say permaban.

Green Lantern · November 24, 2011

No, you stupid imbecile, I was offered a scholarship to Cougar High but I decided UNT was better for my major, jackass.

Quoner vs rjmunthe = GMG circle of life.

Texas Stranger · November 24, 2011

I don't keep a hit list or anything, but this definitely isn't the first posting suspension I've issued for taking a personal disagreement over that line.

Braggart.

Is your suspension +/- in positive territory yet ?

Quoner · November 24, 2011

No, you stupid imbecile, I was offered a scholarship to Cougar High but I decided UNT was better for my major, jackass.

SAT scores or GTFO.

Quoner · November 24, 2011

I didn't think it was that bad. Quoner had it coming.

Afterall, you play with fire; you get the horns.

UT apologist.

Quoner · November 24, 2011

That is what gets you banned these days? Quoner clearly baited him. It wasn't like he cussed him out.

Bring the kid back, jackass. Quoner used an abbreviation for profanity in his response (GTFO), which the site owners have said does not fly (ie. A$$, Sh!t)

I agree. I didn't land on rjmunthe; rjmunthe landed on me.

Also, you might want to edit your own signature before you champion the sacredness of rules.

Edited November 24, 2011 by Quoner

CaribbeanGreen · November 24, 2011

You are the goat f'er I was referring to in my sig.

Wait.... so your signature is referring to cheering on the Mean Green to beat Quoner?

(also, calling someone a "stupid imbecile" and "jackass" in one post is pretty much a rule violation on any message board I've been to. Using "GTFO", "implying", or "baiting"? Not so much. Thing is, calling someone a "goat f**ker" is kind of more along the former lines, so I fear you may be saying hi to rjmunthe soon. The Greeks are famous warriors, you know. Also, Ouzo.)

Edited November 24, 2011 by CaribbeanGreen

Quoner · November 24, 2011

You are the goat f'er I was referring to in my sig.

That's more forced than an old TY Sports skippy guest column.

Why are we fighting when we need to free Ryan Munthe? I may not agree with what he says, but I'll defend to the death his right to say it (and continue to make fun of it.)

Quoner · November 24, 2011

Skippy was the only thing propping up that rag of a website.

And yes, that poster must be freed from the Tasty pepper spray. You would think a Greek would appreciate a bit of violent protesting, right? I mean those folks throw molotov cocktails like most people throw away an empty soda can.

CMJ · November 24, 2011

Anyone who can rock a Harry Potter outfit that convincingly doesn't deserve to be banned for very long.

CaribbeanGreen · November 24, 2011

Anyone who can rock a Harry Potter outfit that convincingly doesn't deserve to be banned for very long.

Wow. That happened sooner than I expected... I applaud you for your bravery, even in the face of the hand crafted comedy you undoubtedly beat to the punch.

Hagrid would have cussed at ULM too!!!!

Quoner · November 24, 2011

Wow. That happened sooner than I expected... I applaud you for your bravery, even in the face of the hand crafted comedy you undoubtedly beat to the punch.

Hagrid would have cussed at ULM too!!!!

Defend that, Professor McGonagall fans!