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Penn State AD Charged with Child Sex Abuse Cover Up

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Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and another school official are facing perjury and failing to report charges related to allegations that longtime assistant coach Jerry Sandusky sexually abused eight boys. Sandusky, who retired from Penn State in 1999 after 32 years in coaching, was indicted Friday on 40 counts after a two-year grand jury investigation. Ray Gricar, a district attorney who chose not to pursue charges against Sandusky in 1998 after allegations the coach touched a 12-year-old boy in a shower, disappeared in 2005 and was declared dead this year.

Head coach Joe Paterno was not charged. Prosecutors said he reported an allegation of abuse to Curley when he first learned about it. Since retirement, Sandusky has focused his time on Second Mile, a charity he founded in 1977 that helps 200,000 kids in the state with youth camps and programs.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15998954/penn-state-ad-exassistant-sandusky-charged-in-child-sex-case/rss

How was JoePa not charged with failure to report? He was told by a graduate assistant in 2002 who had allegedly witnessed Sandusky sexually abuse a naked 10-year-old boy in the showers of Penn State's locker room.

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Doesn't it say he did report it to Curley? That's why Curley is being charged because Curley did nothing...

Curley's not a law enforcement official. When you become aware of allegations of child sex abuse, you're required to report it to police or a child welfare agency.

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Most states have a duty to report to law enforcement for educators. Reporting to your AD doesn't count.

Im sure Jos Pa will say that he was told the AD reported it to authorities, whether that is true or not.

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MeanGreenTexan Grand Master

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Curley's not a law enforcement official. When you become aware of allegations of child sex abuse, you're required to report it to police or a child welfare agency.

This is the law in Texas. Although Paterno was clearly wrong and needs to step down immediately... apparently, this is not the law in PA. The law is to report it to a superior, who then reports it to authorities according to this story: Yahoo! sports story

This is sickening, and in my eyes 10 million times worse than selling athletic gear for tattoo money. This was happening WITHIN THE CONFINES of the football program. If the NCAA can suspend a USC team post-infraction for the Reggie Bush mess, SURELY they can do the same here...

There need to be some serious sanctions handed down here. Just gross.

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I agree this is very disturbing, but JoePa followed PA law. I don't think he should step down if he did tell a higher authority. He didn't drop the ball on this. It appears that someone in the DA's office did when they dropped the case in 1998.

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Anyone sent to prison over this may not make it out alive.

I read the entire Grand Jury indictment. It's truly sickening. If/once convicted, this piece of sh*t won't ever see the light of day, whether he's killed in prison or rots there. But I suspect the sick bastard "offs" himself before it ever goes to trial, which will almost seem unfair.

And as for Paterno, he's long past his prime, anyways. If I was the PSU Board, I'd fire anyone and everyone with so much as a smudge in this scandal and move forward, swiftly. Take a stand. The University's motto is Virtue, Liberty, and Independence... show us all the first one of those actually means something.

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There will be no prison time for anyone involved in this. Sad but true. All will get probation.

EDIT. I am obviously talking about the administrators, not the pedophile..

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I agree this is very disturbing, but JoePa followed PA law. I don't think he should step down if he did tell a higher authority. He didn't drop the ball on this. It appears that someone in the DA's office did when they dropped the case in 1998.

Yeah, Joe followed PA law. Thanks Joe. Way to be a builder of young men.

"** Sandusky was investigated in 1998 for a 'touching' incident in the same Penn State showers and at the conclusion of the investigation, he was forcibly retired by Paterno. Paterno was his direct superior at the time.

** Sandusky ran a charity organization called Second Mile for at-risk youth and was said to always have the company of children around him. Paterno saw him around the program and at bowl games with young boys.

If you know these 2 things, which Paterno ABSOLUTELY did, and someone comes to you with a 2ND allegation of inappropriate whatever behavior, there is no justification for any other action than to notify the police and let THEM investigate the matter. The 2002 incident was not isolated to accusations or known company around Sandusky.

If Sandusky had never been a football coach and had instead been a boy scout leader, would you say Paterno did what he was required and didn't have enough info to act more forcefully (when he knew of those 2 above facts) after the 2nd incident?

If one of these children had been your son, nephew, grandchild, or even neighbors child, would you look at your other family members or your neighbors face and say "what else was he supposed to do?"

If you were Paterno, what story would you need to be told about a grown man being naked with a 10 y/o boy in the wee hours of the evening, in a university complex he wasn't supposed to be in, for you to think it wasn't a big deal, didn't need to be reported to the police, and wasn't worth following up with supervisors (regarding resolution) or locating the boy to corroborate the account?

Hey Coach, why were you still allowing this monster in your locker room last week, years after you knew why he was being investigated? Once the word got out that he was being rung up on the charges, how could you still let him into your world freely?

Or is that he's a buddy and anything goes when he's a friend?"

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Yeah, Joe followed PA law. Thanks Joe. Way to be a builder of young men.

"** Sandusky was investigated in 1998 for a 'touching' incident in the same Penn State showers and at the conclusion of the investigation, he was forcibly retired by Paterno. Paterno was his direct superior at the time.

** Sandusky ran a charity organization called Second Mile for at-risk youth and was said to always have the company of children around him. Paterno saw him around the program and at bowl games with young boys.

If you know these 2 things, which Paterno ABSOLUTELY did, and someone comes to you with a 2ND allegation of inappropriate whatever behavior, there is no justification for any other action than to notify the police and let THEM investigate the matter. The 2002 incident was not isolated to accusations or known company around Sandusky.

If Sandusky had never been a football coach and had instead been a boy scout leader, would you say Paterno did what he was required and didn't have enough info to act more forcefully (when he knew of those 2 above facts) after the 2nd incident?

If one of these children had been your son, nephew, grandchild, or even neighbors child, would you look at your other family members or your neighbors face and say "what else was he supposed to do?"

If you were Paterno, what story would you need to be told about a grown man being naked with a 10 y/o boy in the wee hours of the evening, in a university complex he wasn't supposed to be in, for you to think it wasn't a big deal, didn't need to be reported to the police, and wasn't worth following up with supervisors (regarding resolution) or locating the boy to corroborate the account?

Hey Coach, why were you still allowing this monster in your locker room last week, years after you knew why he was being investigated? Once the word got out that he was being rung up on the charges, how could you still let him into your world freely?

Or is that he's a buddy and anything goes when he's a friend?"

Dead on.

And as was posted earlier, the pedophile was allowed to host youth programs on campus until 2009.

This will be Joe Pa's legacy at Penn St. Too bad he couldn't be charged criminally.

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Dead on.

And as was posted earlier, the pedophile was allowed to host youth programs on campus until 2009.

This will be Joe Pa's legacy at Penn St. Too bad he couldn't be charged criminally.

Based on what he already knew about this guy, minimally Joe P. needed to have banned this guy from the Penn St. facilities.....long before the 2002 incident.

I can't speak for Pennsylvania law, but in Texas, when Joe P. was told about the subsequent incident (by the assistant who witnessed it) he was required by law to make sure that the witness called the police and reported the incident....RIGHT THEN. If the witness was reluctant, then Joe P. was obligated to get on the phone RIGHT THEN to the police and report what he had been told. In Texas, it's not an option. You must report immediately. You are not allowed to pass the buck.

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"There is no good way out of this one. If Paterno is lying and was told specifically about sodomy, then (a) he's lying and ( b )did nothing more, upon learning this vile news, than have one discussion with the athletic director. And if he's not lying, then (a) he didn't press the GA for details, after hearing that something illegal and reprehensible happened in his showers and (b ) didn't banish Sandusky, who had retired by then as a coach but maintained full access to Penn State athletic facilities until 2009. Maybe Paterno spoke with Sandusky. But he sure didn't punish him."

http://www.thedailyb...moral-fall.html

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