UNT lands Argyle guard Clarke Overlander

[GreenBat]

Here is facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/SIX4slimthug

Judge for yourself, but it looks like he's turned to the dark side!

[Guaranteed22]

Just keeping up with him on Facebook. Our once fan favorite has moved on and is full-blooded pony boy now.

For example:

Once after bragging about the postseason tournament his new school bought its way into, he said it was the most fun he's ever had playing basketball and was the best team he's ever been a part of.

Someone asked him about his conference championship teams and NCAA tourney appearances at UNT and he simply laughed at them.

Sorry Collin, but good riddance.

Saw him play a little bit in that tournamnt vs jacksonville and he was a non factor. Ive never seen him play well! Not even in the rec, hell he barely could compete in there unlike most other unt players!

[MDH]

He's dead to me, what a douche.

[HoopManX]

I'm not sure you can be any bigger fan of SMU or the program than Mangrum is. Very gracious kid who we really appreciated having. No doubt though, he's definitely turned his back on UNT and isn't really shy about it

[Army of Dad]

Not really, dude wasn't that great in high school in my opinion. Didnt he go to Howe? 2A certified garbage!

Yes and 3A is sooo much better.

[UNTMike81]

Sad to hear Mangrum has changed his view of UNT!!! I didn't read his facebook page because I'm not big on social networking. Does Mangrum really believe without his time under JJ at UNT that he'd even have a shot a playing for SMU!! It's one thing to become ungrateful, but by discounting what he had here at UNT without seeing that he'd never have an opportunity at SMU makes one think "how did this guy get a degree at UNT"? Much less get into law school at SMU, if his cridical thinks skills are so poor!!!

[Guaranteed22]

Yes and 3A is sooo much better.

Believe it or not, there IS a significant difference between the 2.

[Green P1]

Believe it or not, there IS a significant difference between the 2.

How would you know? What are you a ref or something?!?

[glick1980]

Perhaps Mangrum is just happy that at SMU he finally got to get off the bench and play meaningful minutes. Let's face it, he didn't have the talent to get significant run here and he knew it.

[Keith7]

Not really, dude wasn't that great in high school in my opinion. Didnt he go to Howe? 2A certified garbage!

Leave Howerton out of this!!!

[CMJ]

Yeah, I'm sad to hear Mangrum has soured on us. He really gave his all for us, and JJ and he seemed to have a good relationship. Not to mention he's the only player in NT history to be on two NCAA tournament teams.

[UNTMike81]

I believe we'll be able to add a few players to the "two time NCAA appearance" with UNT over the next few years. Hopefully those players won't sour on their experience here at UNT after their careers end. Mangrum did give "his all" when he was here and that's why his comments are so unusual to hear form him. Manqrum was one of my favorites because he wasn't the most talent on the team, but always "gave it his all" on the court, and off for that matter. Again, strange comments to hear from him. Oh well, I can say I still appreciate what he did at UNT even after hearing his comments.

[Guaranteed22]

How would you know? What are you a ref or something?!?

How does one not know?!? Especially those on a basketball board!

Edited September 2, 2011 by Guaranteed22

[Mean Green Matt]

Collin did a lot for us, but if he is willing to turn his back (emotionally at least) on us because of a couple wins in the CIT, then good riddance.

[glick1980]

SMU Basketball: Where buying your way into a tournament nobody cares about is more important than playing in two NCAA tournaments...

[UNTMike81]

Only thing I can think of is Mangrum see's his future at a law firm owned or where the hiring authority is also a SMU grad., or maybe he's banking on SMU Alumni as his client base after he gets his law degree. I'm sure Mangrum believes an SMU Alumni's net worth would far exceed a UNT grad.'s net worth or earning potential. Just don't know, that's why Collin's comments seen so strange.

[Keith7]

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into an anti-Mangrum thing. That prolly deserves its own thread.

Back to this guy from Argyle. Looks like a solid pickup. Possibly a role player for us down the line.

[Guaranteed22]

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into an anti-Mangrum thing. That prolly deserves its own thread.

Back to this guy from Argyle. Looks like a solid pickup. Possibly a role player for us down the line.

Gracias!!!

[Quoner]

Collin did a lot for us, but if he is willing to turn his back (emotionally at least) on us because of a couple wins in the CIT, then good riddance.

It's kind of like stalking an ex on FB. What's she going to do, bash her new flame and pine for you after she moved on?

It sucks to read, but he would be a pretty crappy teammate to his current squad to be invested anywhere else.

[glick1980]

It's kind of like stalking an ex on FB. What's she going to do, bash her new flame and pine for you after she moved on?

It sucks to read, but he would be a pretty crappy teammate to his current squad to be invested anywhere else.

Except he isn't on their team or anyone's team now....

[Quoner]

Except he isn't on their team or anyone's team now....

I know that, but he played and contributed and got to feel like less of an outsider. I'm not saying I like it, just that I get it. I have no interest in digging through a young man's FB post history, but as long as he is not actively discrediting us or working against us, I'm just going to shrug my shoulders and move on.

[UNTMike81]

Is it a safe bet Collin won't be a MGC contributor, or be seen at any upcoming Men's BB home games?

Yes, this thread was totally Hi Jacked!!!

Glad JJ was able to get good local recruit from Argyle!!! Looks like he's deadly shooter from anywhere on the court!

Edited September 3, 2011 by UNTMike81

[MeanGreen_2008]

I'll say this about Mangrum - The dude loves basketball and works harder than anyone I have ever seen! He's also just a flat out amazing athlete the ability of which he never got to showcase at UNT. You might see a glimpse of it when he made a steal and flashed down the court for a full on slam. Y'all forget about those? How bout chasing that KSU guard down, in OKC, for the block which wasn't a foul? Perhaps the 19 points in December 08? How was he rewarded? Not at all.

Jones gave Collin no leash whatsoever when on the court and had him in knots about making mistakes. Yet he gave all the room in the world for a few other players to make all the mistakes they wanted. Collin was asked and expected early in his UNT career to play through injuries which led to surgery and frustration.

His final year he put all his chips in and got himself as ready as he could possibly be. He was never more excited than he was for that season. He said he felt physically fit and healthy; he was ready to give everything he had for UNT and Jones didn't give him the opportunity. He was angry, embarrassed, and felt like he wasted 4 years of his life. He just wanted a fresh start and so he went to SMU.

While there he gave them all of his love b/c they loved him back. Dougherty gave him wiggle room and worked with him. Collin came on against Memphis and had 13. How was he rewarded? With a start and he didn't disappoint. Started every game from there on out. A stretch that saw SMU make a great run to finish the season.

Finally, yes Collin praised SMU every chance he got (you have problems if you follow his FB page and dont know him and then use it on a msg board; it's UNT BB for cryin out loud) but he never worked against UNT. His only interest in UNT was to show himself that he was more than what he exhibited while at UNT. He did that and ended his college career on his terms. He's now training his guts out once again to make a move for an NBDL team while finishing his masters at SMU. <Obviously I know him better than you so put my words above all the specualtion. And as for the rec center comment, it's a good thing UNT's colors are green to cover your envious green skin. Keep watching rec center basketball and convincing yourself your an expert on evaluating talent.

[Guaranteed22]

I'll say this about Mangrum - The dude loves basketball and works harder than anyone I have ever seen! He's also just a flat out amazing athlete the ability of which he never got to showcase at UNT. You might see a glimpse of it when he made a steal and flashed down the court for a full on slam. Y'all forget about those? How bout chasing that KSU guard down, in OKC, for the block which wasn't a foul? Perhaps the 19 points in December 08? How was he rewarded? Not at all.

Jones gave Collin no leash whatsoever when on the court and had him in knots about making mistakes. Yet he gave all the room in the world for a few other players to make all the mistakes they wanted. Collin was asked and expected early in his UNT career to play through injuries which led to surgery and frustration.

His final year he put all his chips in and got himself as ready as he could possibly be. He was never more excited than he was for that season. He said he felt physically fit and healthy; he was ready to give everything he had for UNT and Jones didn't give him the opportunity. He was angry, embarrassed, and felt like he wasted 4 years of his life. He just wanted a fresh start and so he went to SMU.

While there he gave them all of his love b/c they loved him back. Dougherty gave him wiggle room and worked with him. Collin came on against Memphis and had 13. How was he rewarded? With a start and he didn't disappoint. Started every game from there on out. A stretch that saw SMU make a great run to finish the season.

Finally, yes Collin praised SMU every chance he got (you have problems if you follow his FB page and dont know him and then use it on a msg board; it's UNT BB for cryin out loud) but he never worked against UNT. His only interest in UNT was to show himself that he was more than what he exhibited while at UNT. He did that and ended his college career on his terms. He's now training his guts out once again to make a move for an NBDL team while finishing his masters at SMU. <Obviously I know him better than you so put my words above all the specualtion. And as for the rec center comment, it's a good thing UNT's colors are green to cover your envious green skin. Keep watching rec center basketball and convincing yourself your an expert on evaluating talent.

Well he sure told us! I can appreciate one defending a friend. But the original topic was Overlander and I was merely stating my opinion that there should really be no comparison between the 2 and why I feel that way. Real ballers recognize and appreciate talent! And to claim that I am envious leads me to ask,,, of what?!? Not my style! I commend all young men who play this game for the love and enjoy seeing guys take full advantage of their opportunities. But I must be honest in saying your boy wasn't that good, sorry that's just how I feel! I still wish him the best! Overlander will contribute off top!!!

[Green P1]

He's now training his guts out once again to make a move for an NBDL

Hi Collin! nice to have you on GMG.com!

Is the NBDL like that Tournament you guys played in? If you're willing to give them enough money will they let you play?

Edited September 3, 2011 by Green P1