CERN Study Says the Sun Causes Global Warming

[UNTflyer]

Scientists finally discover the true cause of “global warming”. It’s the sun, stupid.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100102296/sun-causes-climate-change-shock/

[meangreendork]

+1

It is a major part of our climate, as is the gradually changing/alternating orbit patterns of the planet. I'm not saying "alright, time to burn as much crap as we can," but it's a sign that climate patterns aren't so cut and dry as many on both sides think. You've got mass shifts like ice ages to look at, solar winds, planetary positioning, and a whole host of other things to factor. We probably won't figure it out for another 25 years, especially with so much editorial and opinion sticking its nose in the debate.

Edited August 30, 2011 by meangreendork

[SCREAMING EAGLE-66]

---Some think it was caused by the "son" of G.Bush Sr.. .... [ sorry could not resist ]

---Meanwhile some very right wing ones are saying there is no global warming ... (CERN thinks so...) The real debate is "Is the sun and/or natural variation completely responsible or is man contributing". Perhaps we could tilt our "flat earth*" a bit it would decrease ( if global warming realy existed )..

* Pope once declared Earth flat because of the passage "spread the word to the four corners of the earth". Everyone knows spheres don't have corners, the ancient Greeks had it wrong..

Edited August 31, 2011 by SCREAMING EAGLE-66

[GTWT]

Scientists finally discover the true cause of global warming. Its the sun, stupid.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100102296/sun-causes-climate-change-shock/

Hi Flyer, If you read the blog you linked to you'll find there's a bit more to the story. The Cern study did indeed show that the sun influences climate, that's something we've known for a very long time. In the Nature article the authors are careful to make it clear that climate change isn't just due to solar radiation or the interaction between solar radiation and the earth's atmosphere. Rather climate is determined by a complex interplay between solar radiation, the atmosphere, the oceans, and the biosphere - the biosphere includes anthropogenic impacts.

No where in the article do the authors suggest that anthropogenic release of fossil CO2 isn't occurring or that the CO2 entering the atmosphere doesn't play a role in climate change. The authors, like nearly all scientists, recognize that man is releasing massive amounts of CO2 through the burning of fossil fuels, that CO2 is a potent greenhouse gas, and that the CO2 is interacting with abiotic factors to cause a dramatic increase in mean global temperatures.

Science denial ain't nice...

God bless Texas

Edited August 31, 2011 by GTWT

[HoustonEagle]

You may find your argument has a bit more credence if you post the article from Nature(and Nature)instead of posting a blog from the UK’s Rush Limbaugh.

Granted that would mean people will read the article and realize that it does little to disprove anything. What it does show is more scientist doing their job in a objective manner just like 99% of all scientist working on climate change.

Edited August 31, 2011 by HoustonEagle