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Anonymous: "The problems we face today are there because the people who WORK for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living".

Just something to ponder on a hot summer day before the start of two-a-days when we can all start talking about something much more important...MEAN GREEN FOOTBALL!

So...go Mean Green!

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Anonymous: "The problems we face today are there because the people who WORK for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living".

Just something to ponder on a hot summer day before the start of two-a-days when we can all start talking about something much more important...MEAN GREEN FOOTBALL!

So...go Mean Green!

Wait...I thought unemployment was just over 9%.

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Math is a left-wing, socialist conspiracy.

I'm not going to try and dissect the quote but there are approximately 310 million people in the USA. 153.4 million make up the workforce as of July 8, 2011. This leaves roughly over 156 million non workers. Government is the largest employer. If you want an example of what happens with an inflated government workforce check out Greece.

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I'm not going to try and dissect the quote but there are approximately 310 million people in the USA. 153.4 million make up the workforce as of July 8, 2011. This leaves roughly over 156 million non workers. Government is the largest employer. If you want an example of what happens with an inflated government workforce check out Greece.

How many of the 156 million non-workers are of voting age?

I love fun with math.

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How many of the 156 million non-workers are of voting age?

I love fun with math.

Like I said, I'm not going to dissect his quote as many people (like you said) are factored into the 156 million number that do not qualify to work. Children, some disabled, retired, etc. for example.

I could be wrong but I think the quote is referring to a growing population that votes for a party to take care of them rather than work. Not all, but some.

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I'm not going to try and dissect the quote but there are approximately 310 million people in the USA. 153.4 million make up the workforce as of July 8, 2011. This leaves roughly over 156 million non workers.

Well...if we really (and accurately) dissect the quote... about 25% of the U.S. population is under 18, and thus ineligible to vote. That leaves roughly 232.5 million possible voters...using your number of 153.4 million workers, that would leave just over 79 million eligible non-working voters.

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Well...if we really (and accurately) dissect the quote... about 25% of the U.S. population is under 18, and thus ineligible to vote. That leaves roughly 232.5 million possible voters...using your number of 153.4 million workers, that would leave just over 79 million eligible non-working voters.

So, taking it the next level, this is just one giant argument for death panels? I never expected Kram to post such an outrageous idea.

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Well...if we really (and accurately) dissect the quote... about 25% of the U.S. population is under 18, and thus ineligible to vote. That leaves roughly 232.5 million possible voters...using your number of 153.4 million workers, that would leave just over 79 million eligible non-working voters.

I did accurately "dissect" the quote. You just dissected it further. kudos.

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So, taking it the next level, this is just one giant argument for death panels? I never expected Kram to post such an outrageous idea.

I both support and fear the death panel.

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Anonymous: "The problems we face today are there because the people who WORK for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living".

Just something to ponder on a hot summer day before the start of two-a-days when we can all start talking about something much more important...MEAN GREEN FOOTBALL!

So...go Mean Green!

9% unemployment = 91% employment or "people who WORK for a living"

~50% voter turnout during presidential elections = 50% of "people who VOTE for a living"

Fuzzy math? Get'r done!

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KRAM1 Rookie

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So, taking it the next level, this is just one giant argument for death panels? I never expected Kram to post such an outrageous idea.

No, just for certain thread hijackers....:rolleyes:

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9% unemployment = 91% employment or "people who WORK for a living"

~50% voter turnout during presidential elections = 50% of "people who VOTE for a living"

Fuzzy math? Get'r done!

Obviously, figures can lie...a 9% unemployment rate has absolutely nothing to say about the actual "count" of people working. Fuzzy math, indeed! :notfair:

And, is missing the point entirely "fuzzy comprehension"????? :sword:

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I did accurately "dissect" the quote. You just dissected it further. kudos.

Here's the thing, champ...you didn't. The 156 million figure was completely immaterial to the quote. Had the quote said something to the effect that the problem we face in this country is that there are fewer workers than non-workers, then your 156 million figure would've meant something (and again, would've supported my theory that we should stop having babies).

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No, just for certain thread hijackers....:rolleyes:

You can't hijack an open-ended discussion prompt. If the panel comes for me, I want that on my tombstone. Bury me under Fouts.

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Green2012 Newbie

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Here's the thing, champ...you didn't. The 156 million figure was completely immaterial to the quote. Had the quote said something to the effect that the problem we face in this country is that there are fewer workers than non-workers, then your 156 million figure would've meant something (and again, would've supported my theory that we should stop having babies).

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"I'm not going to try and dissect the quote but there are approximately 310 million people in the USA. 153.4 million make up the workforce as of July 8, 2011. This leaves roughly over 156 million non workers. Government is the largest employer. If you want an example of what happens with an inflated government workforce check out Greece."

I openly state I'm not going to dissect his quote to bits and pieces and I state that there is 156 million NON workers.

Here is my next post.

"Like I said, I'm not going to dissect his quote as many people (like you said) are factored into the 156 million number that do not qualify to work. Children, some disabled, retired, etc. for example."

I then go on to say

"I could be wrong but I think the quote is referring to a growing population that votes for a party to take care of them rather than work. Not all, but some."

If you reread my two posts I think you'll see I interpreted the quote differently than you. You interpreted it literally whereas my interpretation was more figurative or metaphorical I guess. Looking at the time differences, I think the confusion started because we were on top of each other at 10:13 AM. If you know what I mean.

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If you reread my two posts I think you'll see I interpreted the quote differently than you. You interpreted it literally whereas my interpretation was more figurative or metaphorical I guess. Looking at the time differences, I think the confusion started because we were on top of each other at 10:13 AM. If you know what I mean.

I like the direction this thread is taking.

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Obviously, figures can lie...a 9% unemployment rate has absolutely nothing to say about the actual "count" of people working. Fuzzy math, indeed! :notfair:

And, is missing the point entirely "fuzzy comprehension"????? :sword:

Ha! On the contrary, Pops. I understand the metaphor and will be happy to spell it out as you see it: Republicans work jobs for a living, Democrats vote to expand government so that they can draw a check for a living (without working). I get your point; however, it's ridiculous in my opinion. So, I ridiculed. No worries. I'm sick of both parties; primarily because of comments like yours and subsequent actions from the weak minded. Have a good day and stay cool (116F on my truck thermometer today).

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