No Rest Maybe A Good Thing?

bstnsportsfan3 · March 3, 2011

Am i the only one who thinks little rest going into the tourny, even with a beat up team, is better then taking a week off. I always hate when teams have a week off then have to play 4 games in 4 days or 3 in 3. I was nervous last year when we did it and i think we had rust when we almost lost to ULM in the tourny. I think its better to face a team like FAU after they have had a week off while we have been playing games, maybe im just nuts, but to me even though this team is beat up its coming off of two wins and just having played on tuesday should be ready for saturday. Im ready for the Tourny! Go Mean Green!

LakeTravis · March 3, 2011

Not good when most of the team is injured.

They need as much R&R as possible but It was a confidence booster for Shannon Shorter.

Green Lantern · March 3, 2011

Am i the only one who thinks little rest going into the tourny, even with a beat up team, is better then taking a week off. I always hate when teams have a week off then have to play 4 games in 4 days or 3 in 3. I was nervous last year when we did it and i think we had rust when we almost lost to ULM in the tourny. I think its better to face a team like FAU after they have had a week off while we have been playing games, maybe im just nuts, but to me even though this team is beat up its coming off of two wins and just having played on tuesday should be ready for saturday. Im ready for the Tourny! Go Mean Green!

We really did play flat in our first game against ULM last year in Hot Springs. I go back and forth on this. Little rest usually equals less game rust right out of the gate. The issue is in our short rotation through a majority of the season. I do worry about running out of gas part of the way through the tournament this year due to the heavy minutes logged by our key contributors to go along with nagging injuries that most of them are currenlty dealing with.

Edited March 3, 2011 by Green Lantern

eppy4life · March 3, 2011

Am i the only one who thinks little rest going into the tourny, even with a beat up team, is better then taking a week off. I always hate when teams have a week off then have to play 4 games in 4 days or 3 in 3. I was nervous last year when we did it and i think we had rust when we almost lost to ULM in the tourny. I think its better to face a team like FAU after they have had a week off while we have been playing games, maybe im just nuts, but to me even though this team is beat up its coming off of two wins and just having played on tuesday should be ready for saturday. Im ready for the Tourny! Go Mean Green!

Always enjoy reading the positive spin here on the basketball forum.

Censored by Laurie · March 3, 2011

We really did play flat in our first game against ULM last year in Hot Springs. I go back and forth on this. Little rest usually equals less game rust right out of the gate. The issue is in our short rotation through a majority of the season. I do worry about running out of gas part of the way through the tournament this year due to the heavy minutes logged by our key contributors to go along with nagging injuries that most of them are currenlty dealing with.

I'm gonna need debauchery updates from you.

CMJ · March 3, 2011

It might be good for the 1st round or two. But if we're fortunate to advance to the semis, it will start to be a major negative.

Andrew · March 3, 2011

It might be good for the 1st round or two. But if we're fortunate to advance to the semis, it will start to be a major negative.

What are we predicting our minutes will look like?

Green Lantern · March 3, 2011

I'm gonna need debauchery updates from you.

Done.

GrandGreen · March 3, 2011

It might be good for the 1st round or two. But if we're fortunate to advance to the semis, it will start to be a major negative.

You have the right answer. I think it will be an advantage against Troy, and may offset some of the disadvantage of playing the second game in two days if NT advances. However, if NT wins those; it will be a tremendous obstacle in any following games.

bstnsportsfan3 · March 3, 2011

Always enjoy reading the positive spin here on the basketball forum.

wasnt trying for any positive spin....just honestly how i feel...

Dr. Seuss · March 3, 2011

For everyone worring about the guys minutes this year lets just look at the past couple of years.

2009-2010

Josh White-- 35.8

Tristan Thompson-- 30.3

George Odufawa-- 31.5

Shannon Shorter-- 23.7

2008-2009

Josh White-- 33.6

Tristan Thompson-- 22.4

George Odufawa-- 21.6

Dominque Johnson-- 30.3

2007-2008

Josh White-- 31.9

Tristan Thompson-- 16.5

Summary, they play a lot of minutes no matter what... Not worried

Andrew · March 4, 2011

For everyone worring about the guys minutes this year lets just look at the past couple of years.

2009-2010

Josh White-- 35.8
Tristan Thompson-- 30.3
George Odufawa-- 31.5
Shannon Shorter-- 23.7

2008-2009

Josh White-- 33.6
Tristan Thompson-- 22.4
George Odufawa-- 21.6
Dominque Johnson-- 30.3

2007-2008

Josh White-- 31.9
Tristan Thompson-- 16.5

Summary, they play a lot of minutes no matter what... Not worried

The question was what do you think the minutes for the game will be? How many does Knox get etc... Will he start? HAHA

Dr. Seuss · March 4, 2011

The question was what do you think the minutes for the game will be? How many does Knox get etc... Will he start? HAHA

Fort Knox minutes will be the same as last year in the tournament

CMJ · March 4, 2011

For everyone worring about the guys minutes this year lets just look at the past couple of years.

2009-2010

Josh White-- 35.8
Tristan Thompson-- 30.3
George Odufawa-- 31.5
Shannon Shorter-- 23.7

2008-2009

Josh White-- 33.6
Tristan Thompson-- 22.4
George Odufawa-- 21.6
Dominque Johnson-- 30.3

2007-2008

Josh White-- 31.9
Tristan Thompson-- 16.5

Summary, they play a lot of minutes no matter what... Not worried

I'm not worried about their minutes per game exactly. I'm concerned that by the 3rd day of the tournament, they won't have the legs that other teams will. I have seen this by watching league tournaments for years...especially from teams that aren't high seeds, but make unexpectedly deep runs.

Here's my 20+ year observation.

Day 1 -- Fresh Legs

Day 2 -- Still fairly fresh legs, and may have slight advantage over teams with a bye because no rust

Day 3 -- Legs start to go, usually the exit is this round - because they're now facing teams with Day 2 legs

Day 4 -- Weary Legs, nearly all who make it this far lose from an empty tank.

When you have zero days off, the amount of minutes takes an exponential toll day to day. So a Day 4 playing a Day 3 is several times more tired than a Day 2 playing a Day 1.

Edited March 4, 2011 by CMJ

Mean Green Matt · March 4, 2011

I'm not worried about their minutes per game exactly. I'm concerned that by the 3rd day of the tournament, they won't have the legs that other teams will. I have seen this by watching league tournaments for years...especially from teams that aren't high seeds, but make unexpectedly deep runs.

Here's my 20+ year observation.

Day 1 -- Fresh Legs
Day 2 -- Still fairly fresh legs, and may have slight advantage over teams with a bye because no rust
Day 3 -- Legs start to go, usually the exit in this round - because they're now facing teams with Day 2 legs
Day 4 -- Weary Legs, nearly all who make it this far lose from an empty tank.

When you have zero days off, the amount of minutes takes an exponential toll day to day. So a Day 4 playing a Day 3 is several times more tired than a Day 2 playing a Day 1.

We need to hope for other teams with first round games to continue advancing. It would not surprise me one bit if we ended up playing WKU if we get past Troy and FAU.

CMJ · March 4, 2011

We need to hope for other teams with first round games to continue advancing. It would not surprise me one bit if we ended up playing WKU if we get past Troy and FAU.

That is my hope as well. A potential match up with WKU in the semifinals would be immensely preferable to a hot ULL team that was also much fresher. We'd be on a level field with the Toppers, and could maybe sneak into the finals even with deadened legs.

Of course then we'd likely face a fresher ASU with home court advantage.

Mean Green Matt · March 4, 2011

That is my hope as well. A potential match up with WKU in the semifinals would be immensely preferable to a hot ULL team that was also much fresher. We'd be on a level field with the Toppers, and could maybe sneak into the finals even with deadened legs.

Of course then we'd likely face a fresher ASU with home court advantage.

I'm not convinced ASU is going to make it out of the bottom half of the bracket. For some reason my gut is telling me South Alabama will. Of course, I could be completely wrong. The tourney is such a crazy toss up this year.

Dr. Seuss · March 4, 2011

I'm not worried about their minutes per game exactly. I'm concerned that by the 3rd day of the tournament, they won't have the legs that other teams will. I have seen this by watching league tournaments for years...especially from teams that aren't high seeds, but make unexpectedly deep runs.

Here's my 20+ year observation.

Day 1 -- Fresh Legs
Day 2 -- Still fairly fresh legs, and may have slight advantage over teams with a bye because no rust
Day 3 -- Legs start to go, usually the exit is this round - because they're now facing teams with Day 2 legs
Day 4 -- Weary Legs, nearly all who make it this far lose from an empty tank.

When you have zero days off, the amount of minutes takes an exponential toll day to day. So a Day 4 playing a Day 3 is several times more tired than a Day 2 playing a Day 1.

I can understand that but one thing that makes us a little different is age, experience, drive, and adrenaline.

They might of played bad ball in the second half but you know when they turn it on, they can play with the best of them. You have 5 Sr's playing their last college basketball tournament, they dont want to lose. Maybe Im just being optimistic but I see the boys turing it on in Hot Springs. I think the last two games put the confidence back where it was in the first half of the season.

GMG

CMJ · March 4, 2011

I can understand that but one thing that makes us a little different is age, experience, drive, and adrenaline.

I would assume that most teams at the very least have drive and adrenaline. Maybe not the experience that our has, but I'm not sure experience matters on a 4th day of a league tournament when you're exhausted.

Look, I'm not saying we can't do this. I think we can beat anyone in this conference, and I'll probably go into every game with that frame of mind. But don't kid yourself, we are facing some long odds.

Mean Green Matt · March 4, 2011

I guess the only thing we know for sure is that we aren't going down without a fight. We are very talented and dangerous for the seed we have, and no one is going to want to play us, or WKU for that matter.