Wbb Woes

GrandGreen · February 22, 2011

After suggesting that JJ may have just make a little mistake in not using his pocketed ships this year, and finding out that to many that is an extreme position. I will now ruthlessly attack a truly defenseless subject and talk women's basketball. The NT and ULM game was another great example of very questionable basketball. I wonder how often a college team has lost to an opponent that shoot something like 23% and who missed 28 straight field goal attempts in the second half. With the game on the line in the final minutes, the NT players vied to see who could hoist up the worst shoot. Of course, one of the two NT best players was out for undisclosed personal reasons, Godbolt. Not only is she the only true post player, NT has but as a sophomore probably the most important player on the team. Her being absence of course let to all those missed shots as ULM got multiple shots about every time they went down the court. The write-ups of this game referred to it being a defensive struggle, sorry missing wide open shots is not the sign of good defense.

Of course, the people who care about WBB were minuscule to begin with and that has dwindled substantially with SS's record and issues. The only real reason that I am commenting on the game is that with Stephens' record of player discord, I wonder if Godbolt is the latest instance. I guess we will see. The team is actually marginally better than last year, at least most of the games are much closer. They do have some potential but SS's almost complete failure to recruit anything but guards has made it even more difficult.

I do wonder how this post will be received, negative and critical to be sure, but at least it shows that someone is concerned enough to comment.

TheTastyGreek · February 22, 2011

On 2/22/2011 at 4:40 AM, GrandGreen said:
After suggesting that JJ may have just make a little mistake in not using his pocketed ships this year

Ship. Singular. Just one.

Otherwise, +1.

CMJ · February 22, 2011

The women's program has fallen off the cliff.

Mean Green Matt · February 22, 2011

Eventually doing crappy all regular season and winning a game in the first round of the SBC tourney is not going to be good enough for Shanice to keep her job. Hopefully eventually means the end of this year. I am not saying this will happen, but the way the womens bracket is shaping up (we have clinched the W6 seed) UNT may actually have an opportunity to get to the semifinals. It looks like the first round opponent will be FIU (who we beat this year), and the quarterfinal would be DEN/ULM. The W6 seed will have the easiest path of anyone to the semifinals.

I don't have the heart to root against them just so SS gets fired, but if they somehow did make a run, I am worried they would decide to keep her. She has shown little ability to recruit, even less ability to coach, and the most disturbing issue is probably the awful player retention.

Long story short, if we have the money to get rid of her, surely this is the year we make the move.

TheTastyGreek · February 22, 2011

On 2/22/2011 at 5:06 AM, Mean Green Matt said:
the most disturbing issue is probably the awful player retention.

I'd put it even with the coach retention.

It's one thing to lose a lot of teenagers and early twentysomethings who may not like you and may not want to continue with their sport. It's another thing entirely when a lot of people who are depending on the program to earn their living decide that one year is about all they care to spend working alongside you.

untbowler · February 22, 2011

On 2/22/2011 at 5:06 AM, Mean Green Matt said:
Eventually doing crappy all regular season and winning a game in the first round of the SBC tourney is not going to be good enough for Shanice to keep her job. Hopefully eventually means the end of this year. I am not saying this will happen, but the way the womens bracket is shaping up (we have clinched the W6 seed) UNT may actually have an opportunity to get to the semifinals. It looks like the first round opponent will be FIU (who we beat this year), and the quarterfinal would be DEN/ULM. The W6 seed will have the easiest path of anyone to the semifinals.

I don't have the heart to root against them just so SS gets fired, but if they somehow did make a run, I am worried they would decide to keep her. She has shown little ability to recruit, even less ability to coach, and the most disturbing issue is probably the awful player retention.

Long story short, if we have the money to get rid of her, surely this is the year we make the move.

Probably won't happen as that means RV has to own up to another bad, bad HC hire. Guess he only took a fleeting look at her binder.

To bad Donna Capps might have done so much, now she is out in Mesquite coaching a HS team.

UNTLifer · February 22, 2011

It is time for Stephens to go. I've heard this wasn't completely a RV hire, but that administration may have had a hand in the selection. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

CMJ · February 22, 2011

On 2/22/2011 at 2:42 PM, UNTLifer said:
It is time for Stephens to go. I've heard this wasn't completely a RV hire, but that administration may have had a hand in the selection. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

I also heard this was more of a Dr. Batallie hiring.

Army of Dad · February 22, 2011

On 2/22/2011 at 1:16 PM, untbowler said:
Probably won't happen as that means RV has to own up to another bad, bad HC hire. Guess he only took a fleeting look at her binder.
To bad Donna Capps might have done so much, now she is out in Mesquite coaching a HS team.

Well the current coach is probably more suited to the HS level. I wonder if we can just trade them straight up or if we would need to send some supplies along with Shanice...maybe a folder or two...

foutsrouts · February 22, 2011

Time for her to go. We need every edge we can find to have a chance at moving up the conference ladder, and when it comes down to decision time, not having a decent WBB program could end up being a significant strike against us. You never know.

GrandGreen · February 22, 2011

SS is not going anywhere soon, I don't believe NT is going to buy out a WBB hc coache's contract for one year much less two. Also per Vito blog, Godbolt missed the ULM game because she was sick. Strange that the reason given was personal not just illness.

UNTLifer · February 22, 2011

On 2/22/2011 at 3:03 PM, Army of Dad said:
Well the current coach is probably more suited to the HS level. I wonder if we can just trade them straight up or if we would need to send some supplies along with Shanice...maybe a folder or two...

A can think of a binder that can join her.