North Texas Talking To The Mountain West ?

MeanGreen61 · January 18, 2011

So this Utah State blurb sez.

http://www.usufans.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9033

ColoradoEagle · January 18, 2011

Also, the sky is blue. In the end, it looks like it would be down to us and UTEP, assuming they would bolt without any Texas schools. NMSU, SJSU, and Idaho don't have a realistic chance, imo, especially since their commissioner has gone on record saying they want a foothold in Texas.

Edit: After reading through the threads on the USU board and the MWC board, I believe there are a few brain cells...something. Their top targets are obviously USU and UTEP. Doesn't matter to me what happens, because I firmly believe that if UTEP goes to the MWC, we go to CUSA.

Edited January 18, 2011 by ColoradoEagle

forevereagle · January 18, 2011

What a well written and non-repetitive story.

shaft · January 19, 2011

The MWC wants to see how its new line up shakes out, then it will look at Utah State and UTEP. Does anyone have an article from a real newspaper that says otherwise.

Denia Park Pedro · January 19, 2011

The MWC wants to see how its new line up shakes out, then it will look at Utah State and UTEP. Does anyone have an article from a real newspaper that says otherwise.

Do you have "an article from a real newspaper" to back up your claim? Did the MWC Comissioner not say that they want to keep a presence in Texas? Are they not meeting in just a few days with expansion on the agenda? Did UTEP's president not say that they want to stay in a conference with other Texas schools?

I'm not saying something will happen, but you absolutely say that nothing will. How is your speculation different from anybody else?

MDH · January 19, 2011

Do you have "an article from a real newspaper" to back up your claim? Did the MWC Comissioner not say that they want to keep a presence in Texas? Are they not meeting in just a few days with expansion on the agenda? Did UTEP's president not say that they want to stay in a conference with other Texas schools?
I'm not saying something will happen, but you absolutely say that nothing will. How is your speculation different from anybody else?

How many smurf-berries is the life of each smurf worth?

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UNT90 · January 19, 2011

Do you have "an article from a real newspaper" to back up your claim? Did the MWC Comissioner not say that they want to keep a presence in Texas? Are they not meeting in just a few days with expansion on the agenda? Did UTEP's president not say that they want to stay in a conference with other Texas schools?
I'm not saying something will happen, but you absolutely say that nothing will. How is your speculation different from anybody else?

You Deniaites are so confrontational.

Denia Park Pedro · January 19, 2011

You Deniaites are so confrontational.

It's part of the HOA agreement.

PlummMeanGreen · January 19, 2011

So this Utah State blurb sez.
http://www.usufans.com/Forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9033

Gut feeling tells me they will table any expansion plans for the moment. Probably need to study it a bit more?

Whichever North Texas Metroplex school that would interest MWC powers would come with a population center in our 6 county area that (alone) is larger than a few MWC state's population totals added together. I don't know how they don't replace TCU to get this market back even if it were by chance SMU (thereby leaving a gaping hole in CUSA if that occurred).

TV marketing moguls might suggest to MWC officials that they cannot ignore a Top 5 TV market (DFW) especially when it comes to putting their future conference football TV packages together. Granted, TCU did not have the best TV arrangement with their time in the MWC, but they still gave the Mountain West Conference the largest TV market in their league and I'm sure the MWC will find a better TV package that pleases all in their league in due time.

If UNT officials would do their research and if this gets serious enough to merit such, they can show league officials that its just not little ol' ladies with purple-tinted hair or shut'ins who have watched our TV games in the past.

We do have almost 100,000 North Texas Exes in DFW and we have as big a chance as anyone of having the most alums from a single school to have more viewers for a MWC football matchup in DFW than other Texas universities local alums; that is, such Texas-based schools who don't have 1/4'th the alumnus numbers that we have in this densely populated part of Texas where our main campus just happens to call home base, too. In sales, we used to always say: "It's a numbers game" and I think TV moguls who produce conference college football game packages for said conferences would agree with that more than most salesmen.

The Lone Star State Big 2 plus North Texas: MWC officials might also need to know that UNT has more alums in the North Texas Metroplex than anyone and that includes the Lone Start State's Big 2, ie, UT-Austin and Texas A & M. On the other side of the coin, without the North Texas Metroplex as part of the MWC TV market, it would have a very noticeable big hole in it and as a result the ESPN's or CBSFootball cable types of the collegiate sports world would be the first to notice said big hole. There would be no need for the WAC to get a better TV package than the MWC, right?

North Texas would (in deed) have much to bring to the MWC table and would not come into the this league hat in hand. It would be a good deal for both parties "IF".........the MWC decides they want to expand and if they decide they want to expand in the Lone Star State once again.

NOTE: I'd love UH and UNT to form a secret alliance known to no one except MWC Commish' Craig Thompson as well as all MWC school presidents and go into the MWC in a Texas Two-Step sort of way. Now that would be the Nirvana of a scenario for many of us connected with the University of North Texas community, but we learned long ago not to hold our breath on such things happening over night for us (but over night would be most welcome in this case). :sword:

GMG!

Edited January 19, 2011 by PlummMeanGreen

ColoradoEagle · January 19, 2011

Gut feeling tells me they will table any expansion plans for the moment. Probably need to study it a bit more?

At this point, I doubt there is any more research to be done. We have our independent study done, and all the numbers and plans are out there. I'm sure the same is true for any of the other candidates.

My gut tells me that the MWC will add USU, because it's just being talked about too much, and it salvages their Comcast contract in the short term. It also tells me that neither UH nor SMU are interested in moving, and that Vito needs to do some digging.

forevereagle · January 19, 2011

Question: is taking UTEP really maintaining a presence in Texas?

Side Show Joe · January 19, 2011

The MWC is negotiating T.V. contracts right now. If they decide to expand, I don't think they will drag the process out too long. I'm not sure the time frame for signing the new T.V. contracts, but I bet they will look for an expansion combination that will maximize the T.V. money. In the end I can't think of a combination that wouldn't include the DFW market. If the MWC decides to expand, I like our chances.

GTWT · January 19, 2011

Question: is taking UTEP really maintaining a presence in Texas?

Yes.

Harry · January 19, 2011

Question: is taking UTEP really maintaining a presence in Texas?

No. UTEP is not in DFW or Houston.

Things are setting up quite nicely for us in regards to the Mountain West. SMU, Houston and UTEP want to stay in CUSA. MWC needs a presence in Texas. Facilities have been improved. A respected head coach has been hired in fb. Basketball is strong under Johnny Jones.

eppy4life · January 19, 2011

I say NT be proactive in handling conference realignment. Extend our agreement with the Sunbelt to 2020 so these lesser conferences will stop pestering us.

GTWT · January 19, 2011

No. UTEP is not in DFW or Houston.

Neither UT nor A&M are in DFW or Houston - they each have a Texas presence. I would love UNT to be in a conference with other Texas schools, even if those schools weren't in Dallas or Houston.

Daddy Dumpsalot · January 19, 2011

I say NT be proactive in handling conference realignment. Extend our agreement with the Sunbelt to 2020 so these lesser conferences will stop pestering us.

Long live the Belt!

PlummMeanGreen · January 19, 2011

No. UTEP is not in DFW or Houston.

Things are setting up quite nicely for us in regards to the Mountain West. SMU, Houston and UTEP want to stay in CUSA. MWC needs a presence in Texas. Facilities have been improved. A respected head coach has been hired in fb. Basketball is strong under Johnny Jones.

:thumbsu:

And God help us use Chuck Neinas in pushing our product with MWC officials because this is where every penny we've paid him thus far can really pay off for North Texas. I like our new UNT Prez's background in the NCAA, too; probably moreso than any prior Prez' we'ver ever had at UNT from all I hear.

The next few weeks could be strategic in the history of our univerisity, but we do have a fair fall back just in case. We just need our "fall back" to start getting its best team(s) in Top 25 polls just like the MAC seems to have pulled off with their consortium of sports scribes who have no problem giving their schools the votes to get em' in and............... with some of their Top 25'ers being schools I think some of our best SBC teams probably could have beaten.

SBC Commish' Wright Waters needs to look into how the MAC gets theirs in such polls and we don't. In fact, New Orleans would be a great place for him to entertain sports writers who have a vote for Top 25 polls.

GMG!

Edited January 19, 2011 by PlummMeanGreen

forevereagle · January 19, 2011

Neither UT nor A&M are in DFW or Houston - they each have a Texas presence. I would love UNT to be in a conference with other Texas schools, even if those schools weren't in Dallas or Houston.

How many UTEP shirts have you seen walking around DFW? I am going to have to say that UTEP is barely in Texas. El Paso is so far removed from the remaining population centers that I don't think that most people care.

GangGreen · January 19, 2011

Who is in the MWC these days? I'm starting to get really confused.

Mean Green 93-98 · January 19, 2011

Question: is taking UTEP really maintaining a presence in Texas?

It's not a presence where the TV sets are--DFW, Houston, and Austin-SA.

It's not a presence where the recruiting is--El Paso is 5 hours away from where good recruiting begins.

So while it technically provides the Mountain West a "presence in Texas," if their higher-ups think it will do for them what TCU did, they are out of their minds.

golfingomez · January 19, 2011

How many UTEP shirts have you seen walking around DFW?

You've seen shirts just walking around?

that's crazy!!!

do they have legs?

Green Mean · January 19, 2011

Who is in the MWC these days? I'm starting to get really confused.

Don't worry it is a clear upgrade with what is in the SBC.

Edited January 20, 2011 by Green Mean

Daddy Dumpsalot · January 20, 2011

How many UTEP shirts have you seen walking around DFW? I am going to have to say that UTEP is barely in Texas. El Paso is so far removed from the remaining population centers that I don't think that most people care.

Are you saying that El Paso is part of Mexico?